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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: miko2d on July 30, 2003, 07:58:09 AM
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Sgt Donald Walters, a 33-year-old military cook from Oregon serving with the 507th Maintenance Unit. Apparently, he is a warrior who has accomplished all the things falsely attributed to the Pvt Jessica Lynch - staging a lone battle against Iraqis, fighting his way from the ambush site towards a canal south of Highway 16, receiving two stab wounds in the abdomen, getting shot once in the right leg and twice in the back, emptying his rounds of ammunition - from a weapon that apparently never jammed.
miko
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Originally posted by miko2d
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Sgt Donald Walters, a 33-year-old military cook from Oregon serving
miko
Dont mess with the cook
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Anyone who's watched "Iron Chef" knows that cooks kick butt!
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He's lucky he didn't get turned into a blonde female so that the Pentagon could whip up a little mindless patriotic fervour - guess it was easier to hand out medals to Pvt Lynch than worry about little things like facts and the truth.
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Reports say the whole "Jessica was stabbed and shot" screw up was caused by improperly translated intercepted Iraqi radio traffic. They got the two soldiers mixed up. That's what happens when the military/media make reports without bothering to investigate the facts. (or waiting until hostilities are over and an investigation can be done).
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
Reports say the whole "Jessica was stabbed and shot" screw up was caused by improperly translated intercepted Iraqi radio traffic. They got the two soldiers mixed up. That's what happens when the military/media make reports without bothering to investigate the facts. (or waiting until hostilities are over and an investigation can be done).
That can't be right....the whiney brit that posted above you has it all figured out.
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Originally posted by Rude
That can't be right....the whiney brit that posted above you has it all figured out.
Ahem, no need for name calling, I'm not a Brit - I'm South African, we fought TWO wars the last time people called us Brits.
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Originally posted by GScholz
Did he get a medal?
Yes, he was awarded the Bronze Medal.
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
He's lucky he didn't get turned into a blonde female so that the Pentagon could whip up a little mindless patriotic fervour - guess it was easier to hand out medals to Pvt Lynch than worry about little things like facts and the truth.
If I remember correctly, it was the BBC that first reported that Lynch had been shot and stabbed, when the AP was simply reporting that she had been captured.
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Sheesh the BBC hate America - they'd NEVER report anything good - I thought we'd cleared up that point months ago!! Do try to keep up saves all these repetitions.
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Originally posted by miko2d
(http://www.borderlandnews.com/war/photos/20030405-96741-55615.JPEG)
Sgt Donald Walters, a 33-year-old military cook from Oregon serving with the 507th Maintenance Unit. Apparently, he is a warrior who has accomplished all the things falsely attributed to the Pvt Jessica Lynch - staging a lone battle against Iraqis, fighting his way from the ambush site towards a canal south of Highway 16, receiving two stab wounds in the abdomen, getting shot once in the right leg and twice in the back, emptying his rounds of ammunition - from a weapon that apparently never jammed.
miko
[size=10]WTFG [/SIZE]
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Ahem, no need for name calling, I'm not a Brit - I'm South African, we fought TWO wars the last time people called us Brits.
Lost both of them too if I recall correctly.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
He's lucky he didn't get turned into a blonde female so that the Pentagon could whip up a little mindless patriotic fervour - guess it was easier to hand out medals to Pvt Lynch than worry about little things like facts and the truth.
No offense but you really should learn the facts before spouting off. The stories of Lynch's injuries and how she was captured was all completely the makings of the media. The Pentagon never released any information on how she was captured or the wounds received. The only thing the Pentagon could be considered guilty of is not clarifying the false media reports which were based on reports from the embedded reporters and from Iraqi accounts.
If the BBC was so truthful and non-biased in their reporting, why is it then the BBC was taken off of all the Royal Naval ships? Even the senior BBC correspondent during the war got up and apologized during a military press briefing for the BBC's apparent bias in their reporting when he found out his editors were changing his stories to reflect the war in a negative light.
So I guess you are correct, why should the BBC let things like the facts and truth stand in the way of their reporting.
ack-ack
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If the BBC was so truthful and non-biased in their reporting, why is it then the BBC was taken off of all the Royal Naval ships?
Talk about exaggeration. Not only was it not taken off all Naval ships, it wasn't even removed from the Ark Royal, where the original story originated. There was anger at one report's suggestion that the deaths of Ark Royal personnel in a mid-air collision between Sea King helicopters was down to poor maintenance.
They switched to Sky News for a while but then switched back. Perhaps they realised that Murdoch's organ was not any better - all 24 hour news sucks after the first hour of an event.
http://media.guardian.co.uk/iraqandthemedia/story/0,12823,933026,00.html
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Originally posted by miko2d
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Sgt Donald Walters, a 33-year-old military cook from Oregon serving with the 507th Maintenance Unit. Apparently, he is a warrior who has accomplished all the things falsely attributed to the Pvt Jessica Lynch - staging a lone battle against Iraqis, fighting his way from the ambush site towards a canal south of Highway 16, receiving two stab wounds in the abdomen, getting shot once in the right leg and twice in the back, emptying his rounds of ammunition - from a weapon that apparently never jammed.
miko
Here's the US Army's special report on the ambush of the 507th. It's a pretty interesting read.
507th ambush - US Army report (http://www.army.mil/features/507thMaintCmpy/)
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Lost both of them too if I recall correctly.
ack-ack
But taught you no end of a lesson if one is to believe Mr Kipling....
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Sorry forgot to mention your lot lost the first one...tsk tsk......military professionals having their arses kicked by a lot of farmers who beleived in God and the Mauser.
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_Schadenfreude_: Sorry forgot to mention your lot lost the first one...tsk tsk......military professionals having their arses kicked by a lot of farmers who beleived in God and the Mauser.
What a coincidence. Americans also won the first war for independence but lost the second one.... :(
miko
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Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Sorry forgot to mention your lot lost the first one...tsk tsk......military professionals having their arses kicked by a lot of farmers who beleived in God and the mauser.
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I don't recall the U.S. ever fighting South Africa other than in this one Larry Bond book.
Ack-Ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
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I don't recall the U.S. ever fighting South Africa other than in this one Larry Bond book.
Ack-Ack
1st and 2nd Boer War's against the Brits, regular forces against guerilla's on horseback, half my family was on one side the other half on the other side.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/8141/boerwar.html
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ya know i bet the brits hated farmers with long rifles.
cost them half the friggin world.
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Originally posted by miko2d
[.....getting shot once in the right leg and twice in the back.....
Now we know how he received the wounds to his back. It's a shame the family had to fight for a year to get the truth.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,121216,00.html
"He was executed — shot twice in the back," Guard spokesman Maj. Arnold Strong said in a telephone interview Thursday. "An Iraqi ambulance driver witnessed six Fedayeen rebels standing outside a building guarding him while he was still alive. That same witness evacuated his dead body to a hospital."
Defense investigators confirmed the account by matching Walters' DNA to blood splatter on the wall where he was executed, Strong said. He died from two gunshot wounds to the back, fired from more than 20 feet away, according to Strong's account of the investigation findings.
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Mickey
Thanks for the link, interesting read.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Lost both of them too if I recall correctly.
ack-ack
What a stupid thing to say. Actually the Boers smartly fought the most powerful Army in the world to a standstill. Until the time that the Brits Implemented a scorched earth policy and began to burn farm houses, detaining the Boer women and children in the first ever concentration camps. The example set by the Boer is now textbook proceedure when fighting a more powerful but less mobile force.
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
Yes, he was awarded the Bronze Medal.
Who received the Gold and the Silver? What event(s) were they in?
:)