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Title: Picture pages! Post yer co-pilots!
Post by: LePaul on November 26, 2001, 02:37:00 PM
Oh sure, they look cute.

They also rub their chins on your joystick when you are away, so that nice Lancaster you had at 28,000 ft is now spiraling down to its death, all cuz you had to pee and they seem soooo innocent!

Share your pics and stories!

 (http://www.checksix.net/fulldesk.jpg)

Pictured, foreground is "Pudge" since he sure likes to eat, smaller guy in the background is "Smudge".  He ain't balck, he aint brown...he's kinda both.  Both 12 weeks old now, an raising hell 24/7.
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Post by: Rotorian on November 26, 2001, 02:43:00 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul:
Oh sure, they look cute..

Sure...hey, do you know how to make a cat bark like a dog?
Title: Picture pages! Post yer co-pilots!
Post by: LePaul on November 26, 2001, 02:50:00 PM
Is this a naughty knock-knock joke?   :)

Hey I'm just tickled that my "help" is cute and non-union!
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Post by: Sunchaser on November 26, 2001, 02:53:00 PM
Speaking of Lancs....I really hate them a lot and rarely fly one.

So yesterday I am really pissed about a certain field and decide to bomb it into the dark ages at least and for that you need....yup, a Lanc.

So I up one, read several chapters of War & Peace, get 22K  and waste two fighter hangers on the first pass, extend....during which time my Grand Daughter comes up says, "Bye, we are going home." smootch, smootch, click, click.

She loves dropping bombs.

She is still a real Honey though and not quite out of the will.
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Post by: Rotorian on November 26, 2001, 02:58:00 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul:
Is this a naughty knock-knock joke?    :)
!

No, Ratbo is the one with the bestiality jokes.  After all, we DO have a picture of him with an arm up a duck  :).

Oh, back to the barking cat.  Dip him in lighter fluid, light a match to him.....WOOF!
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Post by: Goner on November 26, 2001, 03:15:00 PM
(http://www.gemini.demon.nl/AWpics/copilot.jpg)
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Post by: Rotorian on November 26, 2001, 03:19:00 PM
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Originally posted by Goner:
<snipped an oldie but goodie>

Hehehe goner.  Hey who has Immel's copilot pic?  :)
Title: Picture pages! Post yer co-pilots!
Post by: LePaul on November 26, 2001, 03:21:00 PM
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Originally posted by Sunchaser:
Speaking of Lancs....I really hate them a lot and rarely fly one.

So yesterday I am really pissed about a certain field and decide to bomb it into the dark ages at least and for that you need....yup, a Lanc.

So I up one, read several chapters of War & Peace, get 22K  and waste two fighter hangers on the first pass, extend....during which time my Grand Daughter comes up says, "Bye, we are going home." smootch, smootch, click, click.

She loves dropping bombs.

She is still a real Honey though and not quite out of the will.

LOL!!!

I've had one of the cats walk across the keyboard and dump bombs too.  Nothing worse than being finally at altitude and no bombs.  A few days ago, I forgot I had the salvo at 14 since I'd bombed HQ.  Dropped on one fighter hangar and heard "tickitytickity
tickitytickitytickity...."

Doh!!
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Post by: pbirmingham on November 26, 2001, 03:25:00 PM
Dog is my copilot.

 (http://www.bigscary.com/Barn/barnattack1.jpg)
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Post by: Flossy on November 26, 2001, 03:33:00 PM
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Originally posted by LePaul:
A few days ago, I forgot I had the salvo at 14 since I'd bombed HQ.  Dropped on one fighter hangar and heard "tickitytickitytickitytickityt ickity...."  Doh!!

That's interesting.... does that mean the salvo is "remembered" between flights?  I hadn't realised that, if it is so, and always set it each time!  I always presumed if I didn't set it each time, it would drop half the full load...   :)
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Post by: hblair on November 26, 2001, 03:44:00 PM
No wonder you guys are such sorry pilots. Depending on some dorky dog or cat for your co-piloting needs? Throw those nasty animals outside where they belong. If you need to cuddle and love on something, that's what the opposite sex is for!! Not yer animals.

This lesson is free.

Next time it'll cost ya.


  :)
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Post by: RAS on November 26, 2001, 03:49:00 PM
Good to see a responsible pet owner with "tags" attached to collar Runny ^Skull^

RAS   :D
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Post by: skernsk on November 26, 2001, 04:12:00 PM
I don't need no stinking co-pilot :)

If I leave my mic on the desk it always disappears.  My two year old plays hide and seek with the darn thing!
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Post by: DA98 on November 26, 2001, 04:13:00 PM
Here are my two copilots:

Kenya (She is all black, so my sister decided to call her Kenya; pure feminine logic)
 (http://personales.ya.com/xavimm/Kenya.JPG)

and Nina (few months ago she jumped thru a window to escape from a friend's dog... suddenly she realized that the window was 4 floors high, and that there was a huge Rottweiler waiting at the ground  :D Surprisingly she is still alive  :))
 (http://personales.ya.com/xavimm/Nina.JPG)
Title: Picture pages! Post yer co-pilots!
Post by: skernsk on November 26, 2001, 04:14:00 PM
and Nina (few months ago she jumped thru a window to escape from a friend's dog... suddenly she realized that the window was 4 floors high, and that there was a huge Rottweiler waiting at the ground  Surprisingly she is still alive )

Too bad...better luck next time.  That cat is a Darwin award waiting to happen....j/k :p
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Post by: Hobodog on November 26, 2001, 04:18:00 PM
Cats always land on their feet especially when thrown at dogs,(EXCEPTION when thrown in a pool). Proven and tested.
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Post by: TUCKO6 on November 26, 2001, 04:39:00 PM
(http://members.aol.com/tuck0006/images/menstinky2.jpg)

here's my buddy stinky, and he really is my co-pilot at times...IF i can get his hairy butt in the plane.  the first time i took him out to the airport, he seemed afraid of all the planes, and i had a helluva time getting him in...(he'd try to jump up on the wing, and he'd slide off.  roflmao)  once i got him inside, i had to strap him into the back seat so he wouldn't climb all over me while flying.  

now, when i take him up, he knows exactly what to do...i still haven't gotten up the nerve to let him fly though.  hehe

The Tuckster

"The first time I ever saw a jet, I shot it down."
Col. Chuck Yeager, USAAF

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 (http://members.aol.com/tuck0006/images/tucksspit.jpg)
Title: Picture pages! Post yer co-pilots!
Post by: pbirmingham on November 26, 2001, 05:47:00 PM
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Originally posted by RAS:
Good to see a responsible pet owner with "tags" attached to collar Runny ^Skull^

RAS    :D


Yeah, well, we love that silly dog and don't want anything bad to happen to him.
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Post by: YardBird on November 26, 2001, 10:04:00 PM
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Originally posted by hblair:
If you need to cuddle and love on something, that's what the opposite sex is for!! Not yer animals.
   :)

Is it okay if yer animal is the opposite sex?

  :eek:
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Post by: tofri on November 27, 2001, 11:56:00 AM
The uber-Luftwaffle
 (http://www.tofri.de/img4/tofri.gif)
Title: Picture pages! Post yer co-pilots!
Post by: mjolnir on November 27, 2001, 12:13:00 PM
Flossy, I'm pretty sure it remembers the salvo setting you have on each seperate plane until you change it again, regardless of what you lift in the meantime or if you log off for a week between flights.  Always a good idea to double check what it's set on before dropping ord.
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Post by: mosca on November 27, 2001, 01:29:00 PM
I'm a dedicated Bulldog kind of guy.

 (http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=56701&a=13794135&p=56836045)

Mosca
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Post by: Raubvogel on November 27, 2001, 01:40:00 PM
This is my co-pilot:

 (http://www.paulaner.de/e/pics/illu_wb_naturtrueb.jpg)
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Post by: Krusher on November 27, 2001, 02:03:00 PM
(http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/bedazzled)
Title: Picture pages! Post yer co-pilots!
Post by: Krusher on November 27, 2001, 02:05:00 PM
doh !!

 (http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/bedazzled/elizabeth_hurley/bedazzled.jpg)
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Post by: R4M on November 27, 2001, 02:26:00 PM
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Originally posted by DA98:
and Nina (few months ago she jumped thru a window to escape from a friend's dog... suddenly she realized that the window was 4 floors high, and that there was a huge Rottweiler waiting at the ground Surprisingly she is still alive)
 

I see...so the cat is as smart as you, huh dadito?  ;)


 
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Originally posted by skernsk:


Too bad...better luck next time.  That cat is a Darwin award waiting to happen....j/k  :p


Nah...if you get to know the cat's man, you'd understand it. The cat jumped thru the window on purpose to commit suicide, as she could not stand xavimm anymore. Seems the poor critter was not sucessful, tho  :D

Poor animal...cats are so intelligent and sensitive...

<G,D,R>
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Post by: FlyingDuckSittingSwan on November 27, 2001, 05:41:00 PM
I love this thread.
I like cats and dogs by the way. Anyone who hurts them are just dysfunctional in the strongest terms.
Also, they are far better then the "opposite sex". Cos they don't hog the bath for hours, they dont nag you about this and that (girly problems) and they dont complain if you dont take them out (they just wee on your carpet or poo on your sofa)  :D

My co-pilot:

   (http://www.cyborganic.net/People/feathersite/Poultry/Pigeons/Roll/Roller.JPEG)
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Post by: mrfish on November 27, 2001, 07:17:00 PM
co-pilots rule! nothing like a cat to rub on the monitor or climb on your at at the wrong time...

here's mine, her name is pouncer.

 (http://www.sprigly.com/withheartcollar.JPG)

and this is a goofy one of me (as my squadmates like to remind me) but it shows pouncer in her favorite place: as my collar.

she also does tricks - she'll walk on a board, roll over on her head and jump up to six feet from a dead stop.

 (http://www.sprigly.com/catcollar.JPG)

 :D
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Post by: DA98 on November 27, 2001, 07:23:00 PM
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Anyone who hurts them are just dysfunctional in the strongest terms.
 

Two or three weeks ago someone entered at the society for the prevention of cruelty to animals (well, the spanish equivalent  :)) locals (where they keep lost dogs and cats) in a town near my city and sawed the legs of all the dogs. How anyone can be so sick is beyond my imagination...

(Damn, my english is worse than my flying  :D)
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Post by: hblair on November 27, 2001, 08:18:00 PM
Why do I feel like I just watched an episode of Oprah? You guys are too touchy-feeely fer me. Yuk.

And what's with the pet bird?
 (http://www.cyborganic.net/People/feathersite/Poultry/Pigeons/Roll/Roller.JPEG)

Somebody cook that thing. He looks tasty.

  :)
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Post by: rosco- on November 27, 2001, 09:43:00 PM
(http://www.sprigly.com/catcollar.JPG)  

 Mrfish looks like cptn Picard  :D


 I dont have a copilot but I did have a dog that went through a similar accident as nina. He was an english coon hound"redtick" and we were running coons and he ran into this old abandoned house that used to be West of my place. He ran upstairs and from what I can  gather the coon went out the window and sat on a little awning underneath the window, fred jumped out the window and missed the awning  :D Knocked the wind out of him but he survived to chase many a coon after that untill he died a couple years ago. I miss him, he was an awesome dog.
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Post by: Raubvogel on November 27, 2001, 09:54:00 PM
Damn, eatin' pigeon and huntin' coon in the same post! YEEHAW.  :)
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Post by: Hangtime on November 27, 2001, 10:25:00 PM
The most notable trick my cat does is toejamting inna box with sand in it.

Oh, it does other stuff; like skydiving out the second story window, spending nights in the refrigerator, dodging traffic, riding the ex-wifes westie like a rodeo bull and going apeshit on the catnip toys... but nothin tops the 'shit in the box' trick.

The most notable trick I do is changing the sand in that box.

About once a year.

I don't get many unwanted uninvited guests anymore.

Heluva trick.

 :D
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Post by: mrfish on November 27, 2001, 10:29:00 PM
lol rosco -

"make it so no. 1!"

"uhhh make what so?"

"oh i don't know just push some damn buttons and pull some levers or something"

i guess i buzzed the sides into 'whitewall mode' last summer  :D

i had an old hound growing up - i used to hold onto his ears learning to walk as a kid and he patiently stood there helping. they're good dogs and loyal as hell.
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Post by: FlyingDuckSittingSwan on November 27, 2001, 10:56:00 PM
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Originally posted by DA98:


Two or three weeks ago someone entered at the society for the prevention of cruelty to animals (well, the spanish equivalent   :)) locals (where they keep lost dogs and cats) in a town near my city and sawed the legs of all the dogs. How anyone can be so sick is beyond my imagination...

(Damn, my english is worse than my flying   :D)

I'd cut their testicles off, and feed them to the legless dogs. Then I'd force them to carry the dogs everywhere piggy-back style. And I'd force them to clean out the pens...
with their tongues!!!

This is an example when dogs are smarter than humans. How people can hurt social animals like cats and dogs is beyond me..leave em alone, but no need to hurt them.
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Post by: R4M on November 28, 2001, 01:50:00 AM
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Originally posted by FlyingDuckSittingSwan:


I'd cut their testicles off, and feed them to the legless dogs. Then I'd force them to carry the dogs everywhere piggy-back style. And I'd force them to clean out the pens...
with their tongues!!!

This is an example when dogs are smarter than humans. How people can hurt social animals like cats and dogs is beyond me..leave em alone, but no need to hurt them.

I wont saw their guts. Why to do it yourself?. Is a job you dont need to do first-hand.

Get the criminal who did that to those poor dogs. Get a gun. Give him a cutter. Point the gun at his guts. Tell him to remove his own parts or you'll bust them in a more resounding and noisy way    ;). Then proceed to apply salt on the removed part wound.

Maybe do the same to him as he did to the dogs, rope him to something, immovilize him and then saw his legs with a knife,and let him die by the bleeding.

The event Da-98 is describing is so repulsive I felt really sick when I first heard about it. It was wondered wether it was a satanic rite, then it was wondered wether it was a part of a role play game (there is absolutee hysteria in this country with roleplaying games)...

Turned up to be that it was done...just for the sake of it. No reason, just making those poor dogs suffer.

Anything you do to those kind of monsters is little. Have no words to describe them and what I'd do with one of those sons of a b1t**.

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Post by: Curval on November 28, 2001, 11:29:00 AM
My future wingmen.....

Great kids!

And they have an awesome Mom...

 (http://curval.freeservers.com/images/wingmen.jpg)
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Post by: Dux on November 28, 2001, 12:31:00 PM
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Originally posted by mrfish:
here's mine, her name is pouncer.

  (http://www.sprigly.com/withheartcollar.JPG)  


Hey Mr. Fish...
   How did Pouncer earn the Purple Heart?

  :)
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Post by: hblair on November 28, 2001, 12:39:00 PM
Wow RAM, getting hot under the collar over a little dog modification aren't ya? Maybe the lil fellas were above the local maximum dog height restriction. We don't know the whole story!  ;)

Seriously, that is a pretty sadistic thing to do to a dog. That guy should definitely do jail time, but all that torture you mentioned is a little much don't ya think? I'm a believer that an animals life, although valuable, is nothing compared to a humans life.

But now cat juggling is another story!
 (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6300182207.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg)
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Post by: Am0n on November 28, 2001, 12:54:00 PM
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Originally posted by R4M:
the event Da-98 is describing is so repulsive I felt really sick when I first heard about it. It was wondered wether it was a satanic rite, then it was wondered wether it was a part of a role play game (there is absolutee hysteria in this country with roleplaying games)...


Just a lil info for you R4M. Not flaming you

A passage from the "Book of Satan".

"VII. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!" [/i]

Satan does not in any way advocate the mutalation of any animal, or man. Surprisingly to the ignorant it is just the opposite.
-----

I wish i had some pictures of my old cat to show you, she has since passed on. She used to sit on my lap when she was younger and stare contently at the screen w/o moving a muscle while i was playing Doom.

Occasionaly out of no where she would reach up and smack the crap outta the space bar and then glare at the screen to see the out come. She would repeat this process for hours.. lol

cats are awesome  :D
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Post by: Curval on November 28, 2001, 01:13:00 PM
How anyone can be cruel to dogs is beyond me...

This is a pic of my first-born being introduced to my dog about two years ago. Being an older dog my family was concerned he would be jealous of my son and that I should be very careful.  But, as you can see his first reaction was to give him a kiss!  He loved my son so much that he would let the baby smack him and pull his ears, face etc. without moving.  Strangers had to be careful approaching my son too quickly...the dog would simply put himself between the baby and the person and if the individual moved to go around him he would move to once again block that person's path.  An area nurse who came by to check on the baby went home with two holes in her shorts after she ran towards the crib in an excited manner to see the newborn.  It got to the point that I had to take the dog into another room to show people the baby.

About six months after this pic was taken Ras suddenly got very ill and I had to make the "awful choice".  After 13 years of friendship he died with his head in my lap - probably the worst day in my life to date.

   (http://curval.freeservers.com/images/ras.jpg)
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Post by: R4M on November 28, 2001, 02:08:00 PM
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Originally posted by hblair:
Wow RAM, getting hot under the collar over a little dog modification aren't ya? Maybe the lil fellas were above the local maximum dog height restriction. We don't know the whole story!    ;)

Heh Hblair that is some cruel sense of humor   ;)

 
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Seriously, that is a pretty sadistic thing to do to a dog. That guy should definitely do jail time, but all that torture you mentioned is a little much don't ya think? I'm a believer that an animals life, although valuable, is nothing compared to a humans life.

Hblair, to get FIFTEEN dogs in a row.... To rope the first to a post. To cover the animal with a blanket so he can't bite,and so noone can hear tthe barks and howls. To saw off the legs, one by one, with a knife. And then to unrope the dog and leave him there, helpless, lying, until it dies by the loss of blood.

Then to get ANOTHER dog. To cover it with the blanket, to saw its legs in the same way, and to unrope it and leave it there in the same fashion.

Repeat it fifteen times, with fifteen dogs. By pleasure. JUST by pleasure. For the sake of it. Just to see the poor critters suffer an horrible death.

The next morning when the owners of the site came in and found the scene, some of the last poor animals left alive -agonizing as they were- tried to get close, happy to see them, trying to lick those guy's hands.

Imagine the scene, about a dozen of dogs dead, their legs sawed off and blood everywhere, and the last poor animals trying to lick your hand happy to see you while they have no legs...it makes my blood boil.

You might think a dog's life is not worth a man's life. I mostly agree...but there are some mans out there whose life is not worth a dog's one.

A dog is a SENSITIVE being, a dog might not be conscious, nor intelligent in the way an human is. But a dog FEELS. LOVES. LIVES. The TERRIBLE pain those dogs had to go thru is something wich you can't ever imagine, and something wich can't be dismissed on the grounds of "they were dogs, not humans". That argument stinks.

Sure, what I described is something I really wont like to see in a nation's law. But jail for them?. Hell jail. Is what they'd get in a decent country. Because the second part is the shameful law in Spain. Here if the offender had been caught (AFAIK, the ones who did it are still free), then would've had no problem...

In spain such a MONSTROSITY is just worth a 500$ fine and they get free...That is why people is now claiming for a serious modification of this incredible law.

Anyway ,someday they will pay. There is a very special place on hell for those kind of criminals. Cowards. Scum.

And to be truth, if I'm forced to choose, I'd rather have one dog's life than ten lifes of guys like the ones who did that.


Am0n: the Satan/roleplay teories were wondered by the media, not by me. I can't care the less why does someone make something like that. the one who do is is  a sick bastard deserving nothing good in this life (and neither in other life)


Curval: that pic is beautiful!!!...the dog is really similar to the one we have at home  :) She's called Arai and is really really similar to Ras...I dont have scanned pics to post tho.

Sad to know the dog died...is the really sad part of those little friends...their life is so short  :(

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Post by: AKSWulfe on November 28, 2001, 02:21:00 PM
Sure, a human's life is more valuable than an animal's life.

Depends on who you talk to of course.

Depends on who you are talking about too of course.

Me? I've seen enough pieces of toejam that claim to be human to prove to me that some "humans" aren't worth even the title of "fecal excrement".

On the news there was a story about a Zoo in Afghanistan, where Taliban soldiers used the animals as punching bags with the butts of their guns or various other forms of aggression. I'm sure some of you guys saw that story who live in the US.

Give me 2 minutes alone with someone who thinks it's acceptable to be violent to animals, you'll find out very quickly just who much closer we are to animals than to the elated beings we have convinced ourselves we are.

I'll break your legs if I see you mindlessly hurting an animal- just the same if I saw you hurting another human.

EDIT: Btw Hb, you should pick up Il-2. Me, Moose, Zigrat and Apathy have played a few times together. Sure, it's no MA- but it's all you could ever want for a CT!! Just for a "when you want to try something different" than AH, it's pretty interesting. Not better- but different, think about it and pick it up if I convinced you! ;-)

-SW

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Post by: Am0n on November 28, 2001, 03:20:00 PM
We are all animals.

It is perfectly natural to favor ones breed.
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Post by: mrfish on November 28, 2001, 04:39:00 PM
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Originally posted by Dux:


Hey Mr. Fish...
   How did Pouncer earn the Purple Heart?

    :)

she was wounded in a failed pigeon attack on our fire escape dux.

she suffered from a crushed ego and severe embarassment and a dislocated understanding of her abilities as a fierce predator.

she was prowling near their roost and got a good pecking - (i think mama had some youngin's up there) she ran home and hid behind me. the physical damage was minimal but the damage to her self-cat-image was pretty bad. that pigeon schooled her good.

we put her thru ego therapy reassuring her that she really was a vicious and scary lion (like she and her 4 pounds of bulk and 1/4 inch claws thinks she is)and now shes her old "threatening" self again, pouncing at whatever moves.

she actually has a pretty damn wicked strike that really makes the hunter in me proud but that was funny nonetheless! its one of my favorite things bout cats - seeing the graceful and ruthless way they attack, its awesome, like a good aerial dogfight and reminds me of their larger cousins.

i like cats - we both have eyes facing forward for binocular strike capabilities rather than sideways looking for predators,but we both would rather lazy around than hunt anyway! lol gotta love em

ive seen some real ugliness toward animals and it makes me sick. there was nothing i could do as a kid seeing it but now at 240 and 6'3" i'll have a word or two for the bastards if i see it. there's little that can motivate me to violence - thats one thing though   ;)

edit - oh and ps the story is true but it's really her nametag  :D

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Post by: FlyingDuckSittingSwan on November 29, 2001, 03:34:00 AM
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I'm a believer that an animals life, although valuable, is nothing compared to a humans life.
 
said by Hblair

So you're saying that Osama Bin Laden's life is worth more than a pet dog's life?

I have to disagree.

If I had to choose between him and an old, abondoned dog, Mr. Bin would get the bullet every time.

Actually, come to think of it, Bin Laden's death is probably worth more than the whole of Aghanistan. 25 million...not bad.
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Post by: pimpjoe on November 29, 2001, 07:42:00 AM
your gettin a little off subject with that one flying duck.
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Post by: Am0n on November 29, 2001, 08:06:00 AM
R4M- buy all means that perpatraitor was a sick bastard.

I think that he should be put to death. Most of the famous serial killers here in the US started off mutalating helpless animals in sick fasoins such as that. A individaul such as this has no place in a civil society.

Personaly if i were to judge this, in a court of law, i would treat it as if he done this atrocities to humans. Simply because i believe "man" and "animal" are equal.
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I used to have this cat when i younger and lived with my parents (other than the one i previously posted about) that was sooooo lazy he would lay down to eat his food out of his dish. Ive never seen anything like it. He wasnt much a gamer though, he used to get on edge and act very frantic/strange when i was playing Doom and one of the daemons or other creatures made there gastly moans.. lol

Cats are the coolest pets for sure  :)
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Post by: hblair on November 29, 2001, 08:19:00 AM
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Originally posted by Am0n:
Personaly if i were to judge this, in a court of law, i would treat it as if he done this atrocities to humans. Simply because i believe "man" and "animal" are equal.

You believe humans and animals are equal? Okay, which animals are you speaking of? Are houseflies lives equal to that of whales? If not, why not?
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Post by: skernsk on November 29, 2001, 08:34:00 AM
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You believe humans and animals are equal? Okay, which animals are you speaking of? Are houseflies lives equal to that of whales? If not, why not?


Well as a kid I remember pulling the legs off a fly, but I pulled and pulled and couldn't get the Flukes off of that darn whale!  I'd say the whales are "uber" ;)

In all seriousness I believe that the person that sawed off the legs of a dog is very demented and a mere fine or jailtime is not enough punishment.  As for humans being more valuble than animals....I think human life is more valuble.  Think about it - when your aunt gets sick do ya take her in and "put her down"?
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Post by: hblair on November 29, 2001, 09:00:00 AM
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So you're saying that Osama Bin Laden's life is worth more than a pet dog's life?


Bin Ladens life is precious too. But unfortunately Bin Laden threw his own life away when he apparantly masterminded the murder of over 4,000 other innocent humans.

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Post by: skernsk on November 29, 2001, 09:19:00 AM
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Bin Ladens life is precious too. But unfortunately Bin Laden threw his own life away when he apparantly masterminded the murder of over 4,000 other innocent humans.

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And so did the pathetic human who cut the legs off of those dogs...
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Post by: Am0n on November 29, 2001, 09:33:00 AM
skernsk

Thats a great question. Many things depend here, yes i would "put her down", under certain circumstances of course. Just as i would only warrent it to happen to a loved pet under certain, if the the same drastic, circumstances. I dont think a human(innocent) deserves to suffer any more or less than a animal.

Maybe its not that i value animal life any more than some people would, but human life less. Thats just an assumption of course (since i do not truely know how to wage ones worth, or how others truely do).

Most humans seem to believe that the earth is here for them to florish apon, and i believe we are here for it, or because of it. And in saying that, we are truely egual to all life and i treat it accordingly.

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If you were a "fly"(or the same size even, still human) and buzzing around my food and head and such yes i would smash you. Some i would jump at the chances of doing it to more quickly than others of course  :D
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Post by: hblair on November 29, 2001, 09:36:00 AM
...and so did the pathetic POS who pulled the legs off those innocent insects.

Death to him!

Heartless skumbag of a human!

rofl!
You guys ever been hunting?
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Post by: skernsk on November 29, 2001, 09:39:00 AM
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Originally posted by hblair:
...and so did the pathetic POS who pulled the legs off those innocent insects.

Death to him!

Heartless skumbag of a human!

rofl!
You guys ever been hunting?

Come get me Hb...I'll be in my F6f :)
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Post by: mrfish on November 29, 2001, 09:41:00 AM
i think killing is different than torture though isn't it hb?

hunting is natural - we can't help it, that's the way life is set up - life feeds on life.

torture is putting another creature in pain and suffering for your own amusement. that's the difference as seen from my chair  :)
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Post by: Am0n on November 29, 2001, 09:43:00 AM
I love hunting Hblair, havent gotten a chance to go this year, nothing but bow season until recently (for deer). Deer hunting is great in sothern ohio where my father lives.

Im not a "damn hippie" if thats what your emplying..

Everyhting has a cycle of life, trees are great, so is wood. Deer are just as great to marvel at, as is there meat to eat (deer jerkey.. MMMM good).

I enjoy the hunt just as much as the killing, very good to get back to your carnal instincts when you can.
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Post by: hblair on November 29, 2001, 10:23:00 AM
Never go hunting myself, how do you think bambi feels when that arrow passes through her poor little precious chest? Then she tries to run away, but finally collapses and can go no further, her chest cavity is full of blood. She is suffering. She dies as the mean old hunters finally track her down by her blood trail. Poor lil deer.

What POS skumbag would do such a thing?  :mad:
Death to bambi killers! :mad:

 
 
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Post by: Am0n on November 29, 2001, 10:30:00 AM
I dont hunt Dowes my self. But they eat just the same..

To be honest Hblair they probably dont feal much due to the adreniline rushing.

All things must die, as you and i must. This is far different from dismembering a animal for pleasure, far different.

If you have never hunted down your dinner and killed it, you really must. Its great to get in a "killer" mode and become more animalistic.
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Post by: skernsk on November 29, 2001, 10:56:00 AM
Bambi is accepted as a female, but at the end they show a big 'ol buck standing up there...so I ask you was bambi a buck or a doe?
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Post by: FlyingDuckSittingSwan on November 29, 2001, 03:23:00 PM
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You believe humans and animals are equal? Okay, which animals are you speaking of? Are houseflies lives equal to that of whales? If not, why not?

 

Yes, they are equal. You can kill a housefly, just as you can kill a whale. Kill a housefly with a fly swatter, you wont be arrested. Kill a sperm whale, same thing, you wont be arrested. The only time you will be arrested for killing an animal is if a.) they are a protected species like the Blue Whale. No flies are protected I don't think, but there are some insects which are like certain species of rare butterfly, for example. b.) Social animals, or "pets" are protected by law. So yes, all animals are considered equal, except for humans.

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Post by: Curval on November 29, 2001, 03:37:00 PM
Dunno if I would classify an insect as an "animal"....it is an "insect".

There was a web page around a year or two ago that would show you how to make a "FLY" plane...have you guys seen this?

Basically these guys would capture six flys.  They would put them in a glass and put them in the fridge.  After about five minutes they would remove the glass and dump out the flys which would lay still because they are cold blooded and the cold air of the fridge was just enough to calm them down.  Then these idiots would superglue the bottom part of the fly to a popsicle stick, all facing the same way, and then use that as the wing of the "aircraft".  They would then fashion a fuselage out of another stick and add a tail to it.  When the flies warmed up they became active and the plane would lift off....literally.....

Strange world we live in......
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Post by: AKSWulfe on November 29, 2001, 03:42:00 PM
Don't kid yourself Hb, I have no remorse if I killed an animal in self-defense (which would be most likely a bear or a pitbull). I would make sure it didn't suffer, but I would kill something in defense of myself or someone else.

Of course, I haven't gone hunting or won't go hunting- simply no reason for me to. I don't like the taste of deer (veal/venison) or any other wild animal. I like cows, but since I already have someone slaughtering them for me and packaging them there's no need for me to go hunting for cows or chickens. ;-)

If I were in the wilderness and had no other means to get food, yes I would go hunting. It's a matter of survival.

Cutting a dog's legs off, or breaking an animal's legs or whatever- just for the hell of it, that's where it goes from need to sickness. And someone who's demented upstairs isn't on the same plane as human. They can't behave, operate or control themselves like most humans- they are sub-human and therefore do not deserve to live. (note: I'm talking about someone who kills, maims or otherwise injures someone or something else just for the hell of it) They are on the same level as rapists and murderers. That alone gives me all the justification I need to not give it a second thought about putting an end to their life- or at the very least insuring the pain/suffering they inflicted on someone or something else they must live with for the rest of their life in their padded cell.
-SW
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Post by: Am0n on November 29, 2001, 03:43:00 PM
Curval

Even stranger is the full circle this post has made..

We've gone from talking about the great pets we have or had and how they bring us joy to who its Ok to mutalate and kill.. lol
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Post by: Kratzer on November 29, 2001, 04:48:00 PM
Here's my copilot and our tail gunner

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