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Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Swoop on August 01, 2003, 11:28:56 PM: Rnd 1, Spit IXs, AH win 10 kills to 2.

Rnd 2, P51Ds, AH win 10 kills to 1.

Rnd 3 will be held in Warbirds.

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Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Skuzzy on August 01, 2003, 11:33:14 PM: Congratulations team!

~~WB's players. Looking forward to seeing the next round.~~
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: jamusta on August 01, 2003, 11:37:25 PM: WTG lets see how you guys do in their arena.. Just give them a few more kills tho ok? BTW who filmed it?
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Swoop on August 01, 2003, 11:43:32 PM: Sorting film and logs now. Hopefully we can get a good quality film from someone hosted somewhere for the masses to enjoy.

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Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Rutilant on August 01, 2003, 11:44:59 PM: Give us the films, damnit! :D
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Estes on August 01, 2003, 11:45:38 PM: Swoop when you find it email it my way, I'll host it. Was fun, I almost missed my chance to fly too. Also, kudos to Nash for having to sit them out.
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Nash on August 01, 2003, 11:48:29 PM: It definitely cannot be easy to walk into a new sim and face the kind of team we managed to throw together. Next week we are going to learn all about it, I'm sure. :) A big to daddy and the Warbirds team - it was a really fun evening.

Kudos to the AH team, and thanks to the couple of reserve pilots that were there to make sure we could pull this off. Huge thanks to Skuzzy... he has done an incredible amount of work in accomodating us, even being there right up to the last minute answering questions in the arena.

Appreciate it Estes - I didn't mind sitting out the 2nd round for someone else to jump in. I got one half decent round in... meaning I lived through it... that was enough for me. Besides, Ponys aren't my thing. :)

The Aces High team (rounds 1 & 2):

Swoop
Drex
kbman
Estes
Slapshot
Pointman
Nash
Goob
Leviathin
Nath
Shuckins
Mathman
Wldthng
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on August 02, 2003, 12:23:06 AM: I bet i would have survived in my P38 too

But going to their sim i would not stand at chance going against another monogamic sim pilot.
the second parts going to be interesting

but what if ah team is going to kick butt again.

Could u say The AH flightmodel is harder??

Harder doesn't mean more realistic by the way
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: SOB on August 02, 2003, 12:31:40 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Nash
The Aces High team (rounds 1 & 2):

Swoop
Drex
kbman
Estes
Slapshot
Pointman
Nash
Goob
Leviathin
Nath
Shuckins
Mathman
Wldthng

Jeezuz...you could've at least given them a chance! :)
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: A_Clown on August 02, 2003, 12:59:56 AM: kind of interesting wich posts get closed & which stay open......................... ............................. .....
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: WldThing on August 02, 2003, 01:00:01 AM: Well flown folks! =S!=

Lots of fun, cant wait for the WB one ;)
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 02, 2003, 01:11:12 AM: Quote
Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
I bet i would have survived in my P38 too

But going to their sim i would not stand at chance going against another monogamic sim pilot.
the second parts going to be interesting

but what if ah team is going to kick butt again.

Could u say The AH flightmodel is harder??

Harder doesn't mean more realistic by the way

If you're good in a P-38 here, you'll be good in one in WB. I think the only thing you'd have troubles with would be the gunnery. It would have been nice to see one of the AH P-38 pilots on that list but at least for me, don't have the free time.

Ack-Ack
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 02, 2003, 01:13:19 AM: WTG guys! You guys remind me of the first US Olympic basketball Dream Team, the other guys just don't have a chance. After you finish off the WB guys, it's time to challenge the guys in FA.

ack-ack
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Fariz on August 02, 2003, 01:42:50 AM: Drex, Levi, Nath, Wld. Jebus. Probably 4 of top 5 AH pilots. :)
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Roscoroo on August 02, 2003, 02:01:40 AM: Great job Guys

I'm shure the tables will be turned next week though .

As for Talking VR1 into a Fighter ace match up ... well hmmm .
I'll ask a couple of my freinds over there (they are moderators in that sim) . but I dont really see it happening . and not for free . its $10 per mo to play there .
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Post by: olddogwb on August 02, 2003, 03:43:06 AM: Congrats guys I heard it was well flown..... may the best team win in the next round.
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Post by: gatso on August 02, 2003, 03:53:21 AM: WTG guys :cool:

Rather impressive to say the least.

Gatso
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: AKWeav on August 02, 2003, 06:03:50 AM: WTG guys! ~~If there's any gnashing of teeth/lamenting on the WB bbs, someone post a link so we can all enjoy it.:D ...especially if we kick their butts in their own sim. ;)~~
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Fjoder on August 02, 2003, 06:49:40 AM: AH.

great event and excellent support from the AH staff.

I hope we can be as good host as you were.

=fjod=
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Ghosth on August 02, 2003, 07:11:52 AM: Glad to hear its going well.

Be interesting to see what the WB's guys can do on their home turf.

The good news is for the Flight Sim Community. We need more of this kind of cooperation.

~~HTC & skuzzy for helping make this happen.~~
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Flossy on August 02, 2003, 07:41:55 AM: Congrats and WTG guys! Hope you all do as well on their home ground! :D
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on August 02, 2003, 07:57:51 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Ack-Ack
WTG guys! You guys remind me of the first US Olympic basketball Dream Team, the other guys just don't have a chance. After you finish off the WB guys, it's time to challenge the guys in FA.

ack-ack

Def count me in on taking on the FA boys - level 10 - no icons, no ranges, full cockpit - should be interesting.
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: AHGOD on August 02, 2003, 09:27:01 AM: Schade, you might need icons on to determine who you are killing.
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Nilsen on August 02, 2003, 09:46:49 AM: ~~Team-AH and Team-WB~~
Title: Re: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: ccvi on August 02, 2003, 09:52:46 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Swoop
Rnd 1, Spit IXs, AH win 10 kills to 2.

Rnd 2, P51Ds, AH win 10 kills to 1.

Who were the 3 sissies that got shot down? Shame on them! :p ;)
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: lazs2 on August 02, 2003, 09:54:06 AM: AKweave... that would be in poor taste but you are invited for tonites group hug and "koom bye ahh" songfest.

lazs
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: AKWeav on August 02, 2003, 10:00:54 AM: Remember the three best things in life:
1. Crush your enemies
2. See them driven before you
3. Hear the lamentations of their womem

Seriously, this is a great way to have two communities come together, and my hats off to the two respective game providers for supporting this.

But I do enjoy reading a good whine. :D
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Flossy on August 02, 2003, 10:27:20 AM: Quote
Originally posted by AKWeav
But I do enjoy reading a good whine. :D
I prefer drinking a good wine myself! :D
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Toad on August 02, 2003, 12:27:27 PM: to the AH contingent and the WB's guys too.

It's winning the "away" games that distinguish true champions.

Go team go!
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on August 02, 2003, 02:28:06 PM: Quote
Originally posted by AHGOD
Schade, you might need icons on to determine who you are killing.

Nah just fly US vs GB and have everone use A/c recognition....higher level room never use icons.....it would be an advantage for them - only fly level 9 or 10 btw.
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Rude on August 02, 2003, 02:36:48 PM: Quote
Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Def count me in on taking on the FA boys - level 10 - no icons, no ranges, full cockpit - should be interesting.

FA is for Girlscouts
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Rude on August 02, 2003, 02:39:13 PM: WTG Guys!!!

~~I don't want anyone to take this the wrong way, but my money is on the AH team to deliver an equally severe butt kickin on their turf as well.~~
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on August 02, 2003, 03:31:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Rude
FA is for Girlscouts

Meet you in level 10 any day and you can show me how good you are against all the girl scouts.
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: WestyAH on August 02, 2003, 05:00:27 PM: I was wondering. Did Drex let any one get any kills ? :)

Congrats folks (on both sides)!
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Post by: Drex on August 02, 2003, 05:16:28 PM: I actually blanked the first round, trying to get to the high ones. I did make up for it in the second round with 4 kills. Was a good time.

Drex
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: vise on August 02, 2003, 08:23:39 PM: Gents !!

I want to extend a hats off to the organizers and to the pilots who flew

There is only one thing better than the flying ability we experienced from your AH team , and that was there good sportsmanship .

You guys are class acts

vise in AH duel

- tech- in WB

p.s. now who is this drex guy

hehe sorry drex i couldnt resist .
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Rude on August 02, 2003, 11:05:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by _Schadenfreude_
Meet you in level 10 any day and you can show me how good you are against all the girl scouts.

That's like saying your good at tic tac toe....why would I want to play a childs game....btw, if it's so good, why are you here and not there hotshot?
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on August 03, 2003, 05:39:02 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Rude
That's like saying your good at tic tac toe....why would I want to play a childs game....btw, if it's so good, why are you here and not there hotshot?

Simply because in AH you get to fly vs 300 odd people in a reasonably realistic flight sim whilst in FA they have 10 levels - only level 9 and 10 are realistic and they have very low turnout ie 10 to 15 people flying those levels.

Having said that those that do fly the more realistic levels are just as good as anyone in AH - the flight models are very similar, something are easier in FA - ie padlock, but AH is easier in that you have icons which FA does not use.

You made a comment that playing FA is for girl scouts - I challenged you - are you going to back up your words with actions or are you all mouth? If it's childs game in their full realistic arena - say North Cape, no icons, no ranges, snow, low cloud, full cockpit, spins and stalls enabled you should be able to manage it easily if it's tic tac toe.......

Come on give me your next excuse why you won't be there - maybe you can't afford ten dollars for a sub or perhaps it's your computer that's not good enough?
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Post by: Swoop on August 03, 2003, 06:03:53 AM: Gents,

this is a thread to celebrate our initial victory over the WB crew, not a place to debate who's dick is bigger.

We've already been called Class Acts and I would very much appreciate it if you two wouldn't go ahead with proving that statement wrong here in this thread. Start another one pls, preferably in the O club.

Thanks,

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Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on August 03, 2003, 06:13:01 AM: Shouting "We kicked butt!!" followed by chest thumping is a class act?

Give me a break.
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Creamo on August 03, 2003, 07:19:01 AM: Schadenfreude, I noticed you. Now carry on. You have nothing to do with this thread, or contest.

Good job AH peoples, although concidering the players, my Gad, the outcome wasn't a shock.
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Post by: gatt on August 03, 2003, 08:22:41 AM: Gawd, what a team. I remember I had my arse kicked quite a few times in the MA by some of you guys ;)
Goood job guys!
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: SlapShot on August 03, 2003, 10:29:50 AM: I was priveleged to fly in round 1a and round 1b with some of the best that Aces High has to offer.

Round 1a/b were flown with Spit IXs ... AH Team won round 1a but there was some confusion on our part and we had a questionable aircraft merging at 18K. Merge altitude was to be at 15K, no more than 2K separation by all planes within a team. After the merge, there was no alt limitations. After reviewing my film, we did indeed have someone at 18K at the merge.

We flew round 1b and the results were the same. AH took it.

I had the problem of flying to the same area as this guy NathBDP ... future reminder ... don't follow Nath ... there will be nothing left for you !!! This tatic also applies to Leviathn, Mathman, and Drex. <> to the other guys too ... results might have been the same if I flew in your general vacinity.

Bottom line .. I was only able to score an assist, but watching these guys work together was priceless.
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Post by: Nash on August 03, 2003, 01:43:35 PM: Yeah, reflying the very 1st round (round 1a as you call it) was the only thing to do.

I forget the guy's name, but someone crashed our party and launched with us, climbing up to 18k at the merge. After getting booted he snuck back in and almost got away with it again on the 2nd try before he was spotted and re-booted.

Also because of him I counted 11 people, so I augered... causing everyone not to be within 2k of eachother as per the rules. It was a complete mess, and reflying it was the only proper thing to do. No sweat there.

As for some of the mud slinging on this thread (there's not much of it, but...) .... It's not lost on me that the people who actually took part in the duel aren't the ones involved in it.
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Post by: =Talon= on August 04, 2003, 12:17:25 AM: LOL!!!!
Wise guys. :D
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Chairboy on August 04, 2003, 01:14:03 AM: Is there a message board where we can read the Warbird side of the story? I'd love to hear how both teams spin the results.
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: =Talon= on August 04, 2003, 01:19:37 AM: http://agw.warbirdsiii.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23180

http://agw.warbirdsiii.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22829
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on August 04, 2003, 01:21:35 AM: Why does a flight sim game need 10 levels? I could understand 2 or maybe 3 skill levels, but 10 is simply retarded... What gets turned on/off in each of the 10 levels?
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Post by: Cooley on August 04, 2003, 02:30:57 AM: ^ seems they handle it with very good sportsmanship.

wtg all, S!
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Post by: save on August 04, 2003, 02:56:47 AM: AH team

Well done !

I would be much surprised if not AH manage to kill more WB on their soil when I look at the rooster :)

=nash= and =drex=

My favourite WB ex-trainers
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Post by: Creamo on August 04, 2003, 03:07:40 AM: The AH group will dominate them, regardless.

Slow fighter FM molasses code in WBS breeds lethargic acm, and it's why I won a lot in my 1 hour trial there.

Im guessing several folks from AH will never make the WBS duel due to software problems though.

If they do, results will be similar to the asswhippin WBS took here. If the AH guys think in advance of the muddy FM and compensate, which they will, the humiliation will be complete.
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Maniac on August 04, 2003, 03:17:09 AM: WTG all involved!

Will be fun to see the WB trainers get their arses handed to them in their own sim :D
Title: Who is flying on my acct?
Post by: Goob on August 04, 2003, 03:38:05 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Nash

The Aces High team (rounds 1 & 2):

Swoop
Drex
kbman
Estes
Slapshot
Pointman
Nash
Goob
Leviathin
Nath
Shuckins
Mathman
Wldthng

Um, last time I checked, I was the only Goob around here, and I didn't fly in the duel. In fact, I haven't logged on for over two months since I've moved. WHO IS THE IMPOSTOR?!?!:mad:
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Post by: Estes on August 04, 2003, 04:24:35 AM: I seen a G00b with the two o's zeros.
So there is two goobs? Goob being you, and an imposter g00b?
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Post by: Maniac on August 04, 2003, 04:39:34 AM: Heres your answer....

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93057
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Post by: Siaf__csf on August 04, 2003, 06:36:47 AM: People say I suck, yet I did 30:1 k/d ratio on my 1 week free trial on WB3 flying the p38 which I'm not used to.

On AH I manage 10:1 average on my favourite planes so that should tell something.
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Post by: SLO on August 04, 2003, 12:03:23 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Fariz
Drex, Levi, Nath, Wld. Jebus. Probably 4 of top 5 AH pilots. :)

ya gotta be kiddin me comrade Fariz:rolleyes:
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Post by: Dead Man Flying on August 04, 2003, 12:07:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO
ya gotta be kiddin me comrade Fariz:rolleyes:

I'd definitely but Nath, Drex, and WldThing on a list of the top pilots in AH. Care to elaborate on your comment?

-- Todd/Leviathn
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Post by: SLO on August 04, 2003, 12:18:33 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I'd definitely but Nath, Drex, and WldThing on a list of the top pilots in AH. Care to elaborate on your comment?

-- Todd/Leviathn

yes....

there good.....but can they do it with there eyes closed:D

jokin...

you guys tend to stick to them when you mention BEST....

I've seen some I would consider on the same level if not better levi..... here's a few names.....

Fariz
GBall
Manx
DstRat
Acid
Wilbuz
FurBall
Ack-Ack

I could go on and on but I got writers block:D.....I know I forgot to mention a few....sorry....even you levi are pretty good.

sorry wldthing....but you know we love ya:eek:
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Post by: SLO on August 04, 2003, 12:20:46 PM: opss sorry...

didn't mean to start a pissin contest.....:(

WTG on the duel guys

sorry levi....

no more expressin myself on this thread....
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Post by: Zanth on August 04, 2003, 12:21:05 PM: Having flown both sims, the main thing that will handicap you going from AH to WB are the limited WB cockpit views. You are used to being able to see, visibility is very poor in WB. You will want to practice with that before hand.
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Post by: Dead Man Flying on August 04, 2003, 12:31:45 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO
sorry levi....

no more expressin myself on this thread....

It's okay to express yourself as much as you want in the thread. I'm not trying to start a pissing match. I was just curious what warranted the rolled eyes in a list that I felt contained some excellent pilots.

-- Todd/Leviathn
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Post by: SLO on August 04, 2003, 12:42:34 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
It's okay to express yourself as much as you want in the thread. I'm not trying to start a pissing match. I was just curious what warranted the rolled eyes in a list that I felt contained some excellent pilots.

-- Todd/Leviathn

true it does contain some excellent names....

but tis always the same I see on these boards....(same names I mean)....

Nath and Drex I never had the pleasure of fighting....WldThing I did....the names I've mentioned.....I fought....and still do on a regular basis.....and know the are good.....and always mention 'LUCKY' when you kill em:D

1 name comes too mind but I forgot to mention it.....KAPPA.....now wouldn't you consider him as good as any you mentioned....

opss please excuse this 1.....but even Shane can pull some nifty maneuvers....:eek:

damn even forgot to mention Fester...my bad
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Post by: WldThing on August 04, 2003, 01:12:42 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO
sorry wldthing....but you know we love ya:eek:

No worries Slo, i know i suck :D

BTW i care to take my pissin matches in the air, no need to do it on this board ;)

O one more thing..

Quote
I'd definitely but Nath, Drex, and WldThing on a list of the top pilots in AH. Care to elaborate on your comment?

Well i dont see where Levi said we were the top pilots, but on the list of the top pilots..
Title: whoops!
Post by: g00b on August 04, 2003, 02:17:14 PM: I meant to respond to this thread not start a new post. Anyways I said...

Wowsa!
Even though I didn't get any kills I think I used my excellent "baiting" abilities to help the truly skilled pilots on our team score some easy(er) kills. Just to be on that list with such distinguished pilots is an honor. Can't wait for round 3!

And regarding Goob, sorry to say, I was here 1st, been playing since AH since beta, WB beta previous to that, Fighter Duel on KALI before that, etc... I am the OG g00b.
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Post by: midnight Target on August 04, 2003, 04:54:07 PM: Wtg AH'ers.
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Post by: Maniac on August 05, 2003, 02:39:45 AM: Quote
but tis always the same I see on these boards....(same names I mean)....

SLO,

You should know by now that the best AH players is those who post the most on the BB board....

:rolleyes:
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Post by: kbman on August 05, 2003, 03:35:10 AM: Really? Hmmm...

kbman
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Post by: lazs2 on August 05, 2003, 10:09:03 AM: I have fought most of the players on that list at one time or another.... drex and levi stick out for good reason.
lazs
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Post by: Swoop on August 05, 2003, 01:27:26 PM: Full logs now available, listed under "other events"

http://www.webtreatz.com/tod/lognew.html

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Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Dead Man Flying on August 05, 2003, 01:31:24 PM: Swoop, the stats in the second duel appear to be double what they should be. It lists all kills twice, and it credits Drex with 8 kills where he actually had 4. The stats/log for the first duel appear accurate.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: muckmaw on August 05, 2003, 01:37:05 PM: Looks like Leviathan was the MVP of round 1...

Round 2...Drex..8 kills and 2 sists!!! Good lord!

WTFG to all....
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Post by: Swoop on August 05, 2003, 01:58:18 PM: Standby, Gremlin fixing round 2 logs.

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Post by: Flossy on August 05, 2003, 02:28:00 PM: Re-ran both logs - and spent 'duel' correctly this time :D - they seem OK now. :)
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Post by: Nash on August 05, 2003, 02:58:40 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Flossy
Re-ran both logs - and spent 'duel' correctly this time :D - they seem OK now. :)

Whew that's a good thing. You don't wanna make any spenting mistakes around here. People can't just overlook it... always gotta be pointing it out...

:D
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Skuzzy on August 05, 2003, 03:04:20 PM: Nash is right. Uh,.."duel" is still misspelled on round 2. :D
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Post by: Ack-Ack on August 05, 2003, 03:34:37 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO
yes....

there good.....but can they do it with there eyes closed:D

jokin...

you guys tend to stick to them when you mention BEST....

I've seen some I would consider on the same level if not better levi..... here's a few names.....

Fariz
GBall
Manx
DstRat
Acid
Wilbuz
FurBall
Ack-Ack

I could go on and on but I got writers block:D.....I know I forgot to mention a few....sorry....even you levi are pretty good.

sorry wldthing....but you know we love ya:eek:

Leviathn would hand me my arse and make me say thank you. If you have ever watched any of his films, you'll see why. The SA on the guy is freaky, unnaturally freaky.

ack-ack
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Bcnu on August 05, 2003, 09:43:11 PM: Obligatory Drex photo:

(http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/335th/4thFG/Dallas/image23.jpg)

Congrats AHers!
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: lazs2 on August 06, 2003, 08:04:09 AM: I'm glad we didn't put more than 2 BK's on the team as a shutout would have seemed rigged.

Went pretty much as I predicted eh? Who were the MVP's for both rounds?
lazs
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Nash on August 06, 2003, 08:15:02 AM: MVPs? I don't think we set up any kind of MVP per round kind of thing. Go ahead and give Drex and Levi a trophy if you want (I would be shocked if you haven't already personally gone out and had their names etched onto one)... and then I'll come prepared with one for the next rounds - making sure of course that it's made in the BK's color scheme. :D
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: lazs2 on August 06, 2003, 02:10:23 PM: Good ideas on the trophies nash.. I guess if you are worried about the next rounds I can allways give you another BK or two but drex and levi should be able to handle most of the killing easily enough.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's
Title: The one and only... Goob!
Post by: Goob on August 06, 2003, 07:29:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by g00b

And regarding Goob, sorry to say, I was here 1st, been playing since AH since beta, WB beta previous to that, Fighter Duel on KALI before that, etc... I am the OG g00b.

With all due respect lil' bucky, I've been playing AH since beta, WB beta previous to that (where I was -goob-), CK, etc....Ever heard of the Dweebs of Death? Prolly not, as you were still in grade school. And btw/ if you were here first, why did I score the (i.e. MY) tag, while you're left with a shoddy wannabe ascii reproduction? ;)

OS (Old Skool) Goob

PS All you hotheads can hold'jer water... I'm just busting g00b's nads! :D
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: SlapShot on August 06, 2003, 08:53:43 PM: "Ever heard of the Dweebs of Death?"

I have ... a buddy of mine (the guy who got me hooked on AH) was in that squad ... he has this funky hat with a propeller on the top ... Does "Icer" ring a bell ?
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: nopoop on August 06, 2003, 10:30:16 PM: Tone's a dweeb. He wore the spinner hat to the WB con a few years back..

There was more people at that con then are left playing the game now..

I remember ya Goob.

Ya dweeb..
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Russian on August 06, 2003, 11:45:09 PM: When is roung three scheduled?
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Drex on August 06, 2003, 11:50:51 PM: Heya goob :)

Drex
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Goob on August 07, 2003, 05:36:50 PM: Drex! To u too nopoop. Slapshot, I do remember Icer, but to my memory he didn't fly much (my own predicament as of late).

And yes, I still don my DoD prop-beanie when I fly. Unfortunately the Dweebs didn't want to break up the MAc and PC folks, so they never made the switch from WB to AH. I just couldn't hang with WB anymore, so I stoically carry the Dweeb torch alone in AH...;)

Goob

"Death before dishonor. Sometimes just moments before."
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Fariz on August 08, 2003, 01:54:17 AM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO
yes....

I've seen some I would consider on the same level if not better levi..... here's a few names.....

Fariz

Trust me SLO, all of those 4 guys are absolutely better than me. They are just at the next level of fighter pilot skill. I am not sure how good is Nath now, because I have not seen him in AH for a while, but 3 others are really AH top pilots.
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: _Schadenfreude_ on August 08, 2003, 05:06:19 AM: Quote
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Why does a flight sim game need 10 levels? I could understand 2 or maybe 3 skill levels, but 10 is simply retarded... What gets turned on/off in each of the 10 levels?

I think that the idea is that you have lower levels with no spins and stalls, easy physics to get people into the game and then they all migrate to higher level, full physics, stalls spins, no icons as they get better.

er...unfortunately what actually happens is that people join, get used to flying what are little more that spaceships that look like WW2 a/c and then scream like pigs on the way to the bolt gun if anyone suggests that they try a higher more realistic level.

But there are a couple of hundred guys that look down on the lower levels (the Crayon Rooms) but who are frustrated that they only get about 10 people to fly against in the realistic rooms.

The benefits of the whole event vs WB and FA is that in both sims there are a large number of people who would probably move over to AH if they are encouraged to do so and an extra 20% subscriber base for AH would mean more resources to allow AH to bring in changes, more a/c etc.

That's the point - not whether FA or WB or AH is better, harder etc but rather how to encourage people to join AH.

It's a big decision to move from one sim to another and leave all your friends there so helping people and being polite are important - boasting how good one is on one's home turf is not in my opinion not the way to do it.
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Kweassa on August 08, 2003, 05:20:46 AM: And some of us will try hard, to make people like that feel right at home ;) Just ignore the chest-thumping baboons, hehe :D

Frankly, I think the 'multiple level' system is a failure. The same thing has been proven again and again in numerous games - such as FB.. Such great potential and yet, 80% of Hyperlobby rooms are practically arcade.

Its either they learn it the hard way, or not learn at all. No such thing as easy, gradual advancement without any frustration. Overcoming frustration is what motivates people to become better, and without the learning curve, people don't evolve.

I often wonder what FA would have been like without all those arcadish low levels...
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 08, 2003, 06:02:13 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Kweassa

Frankly, I think the 'multiple level' system is a failure. The same thing has been proven again and again in numerous games - such as FB.. Such great potential and yet, 80% of Hyperlobby rooms are practically arcade.

I think that was the lesson the Kesmoids started to learn with AW before the plug got yanked. It was planned for AW4 to get rid of the relaxed realism flight model and the multiple arenas and just have one main arena using the new flight model.

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Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Nash on August 08, 2003, 06:04:41 AM: Here ya go Lazs...

I modified the trophy design I made for Hazed... adding some planes to it. We are talking about Drex, Levi and the BKs... Just wouldn't be right if it didn't include a big furball.

(http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/cwharton/sbm/51spoof2.jpg)
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: lazs2 on August 08, 2003, 11:12:31 AM: hey now.. that's a darn nice trophy... even used myu shift knob for the candle! All it needs is some fat blue planes.. It is nice to notice that the furballers dominated the competition.
lazs
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Russian on August 08, 2003, 01:06:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Russian
When is roung three scheduled?

It feels like I'm being ignored.......
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Skuzzy on August 08, 2003, 01:14:46 PM: The schedule is moving a bit Russian. It will be posted as soon as it is firm.
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Westy on August 08, 2003, 01:31:32 PM: "planned for AW4 to get rid of the relaxed realism flight model and the multiple arenas and just have one main arena using the new flight model"

That's my understanding also. Except it would have made for one very large RR arena. The new super, dooper complex FM had training wheels being welded on inspite of it's "Ultra-realism" tag by the AW-4 team. Not user selectable automations. Features neutered for, as I recall, the reasoning being that the AW4 team "knew" that players didn't want to tackle much of a learning curve nor have to deal with "tedious chores" and other "b.s. realisms."
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 08, 2003, 04:54:43 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Westy
"planned for AW4 to get rid of the relaxed realism flight model and the multiple arenas and just have one main arena using the new flight model"

That's my understanding also. Except it would have made for one very large RR arena. The new super, dooper complex FM had training wheels being welded on inspite of it's "Ultra-realism" tag by the AW-4 team. Not user selectable automations. Features neutered for, as I recall, the reasoning being that the AW4 team "knew" that players didn't want to tackle much of a learning curve nor have to deal with "tedious chores" and other "b.s. realisms."

From my understanding it would selectable user options similiar to WB's old EZ-mode and AH's stall limiter and combat trim. Even with the EZ mode (think it was a G-limiter in AW4, similiar to our stall limiter) enabled in AW4, the pilot that flew without such crutches would have the advantage since the EZ mode pilot wouldn't be able to get max performance of his plane by riding the edge of the envelope. Alas, we'll never know.

ack-ack
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Russian on August 08, 2003, 08:01:29 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Skuzzy
The schedule is moving a bit Russian. It will be posted as soon as it is firm.

Thanks for info .
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: yowser on August 08, 2003, 08:24:23 PM: It was awfully nice of the furballers to defend the honor of AH. I'm sure you won't hear any criticism of "furballin'" for at least a few days. However, it's really not fair to leave the strat types out of the fun. Maybe somebody could run some gang bangin' or milk runnin' competitions?

yowser
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: Nash on August 09, 2003, 06:16:44 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Russian
It feels like I'm being ignored.......

Sorry Russian...

Something came up and the WB team had a bit of trouble finding a day/time that they could host it at. Rounds 3 & 4 are now going to be flown this Sunday night at 9pm EDT.

If anyone is interested in flying for the AH team, just lemme know here.
Title: AH v WB DUEL. WE KICKED BUTT!
Post by: lazs2 on August 09, 2003, 09:11:26 AM: yowser.. the duel was ruined by the furballers.. if we had enlisted strat guys it would still be going on.
lazs