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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: thrila on August 04, 2003, 11:06:25 AM
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I found this pic, anyone know if the tiffie could carry more than 4 rockets a wing or this pic just a mock up perhaps?
(http://worldwar2.free.fr/typhoon5.jpg)
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how many spiffys could a tiffy whiff if a tiffy could whiff spiffs?
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Look at the weathering on the airplane and the dirt on the rockets. Looks like a 2 TAF forward base on the Continent.
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"While the standard load was normally eight rockets, armament specialists had developed a 'saddle' mounting enabling a second row of rockets to be slung below the first. The use of the saddle enabled varying loads to be carried using either single or paired racks."
Other weapons include a 520lb anti-personnel cluster bomb.
I'm trying to organise a chat with Gerald 'Stapme' Stapleton who lives about 10 miles from me. He flew Tiffies in WW2 and if I get to chat to him then I'll ask about the 16 rockets.
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Nexx, you're going to make this a great thread to watch.
Field mods for the Tiff.... gee, I wonder who'll respond?
:D
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Behave Toad, behave. :D
I'd been interested to hear that Nexx.
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MN178 (the Typhoon in thrila's pic) served with 609 squadron until it was lost in Feb 45, so it's almost certainly an operational fit.
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Originally posted by Toad
Nexx, you're going to make this a great thread to watch.
Field mods for the Tiff.... gee, I wonder who'll respond?
:D
Hehe Toad, I've mentioned this before and the Luftwaffle brigade got rather irate... 'nuff said! :)
BTW, it's just a reply to the photo, not necessary a request for inclusion in AH. I use bombs anyway so not something I'm all that bothered about! :)
The Typhoon was also able to carry DTs and rockets and that isn't modelled in AH either.
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Originally posted by Nashwan
MN178 (the Typhoon in thrila's pic) served with 609 squadron until it was lost in Feb 45, so it's almost certainly an operational fit.
The date was 25 Feb and it was shot down by flak near Weeze. The pilot was F/O JDF Wathieu who lived.
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Originally posted by Replicant
The Typhoon was also able to carry DTs and rockets and that isn't modelled in AH either.
WHAT?????
All part of the anti-RAF conspiracy, I've no doubt whatsoever. Dovetails right in with the "amalgamated" Spit IX of dubious heritage and 1942 that were stuck with here! Where are the other 283 Spit variants and sub-variants that we neeeeeeeeeeed so desperately?
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Mossie could also carry droptanks and rockets at the same time.
Had to drop the tanks a minute or longer before firing the rockets though. I'd imagine the Tiffy was the same way.
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same for the hellcat, it could carry 1 droptank and 2 bombs at the same time! (including rockets that is)
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2000lbs bombs for the p38 please!!
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you know we always seem to say that field conversions wont be in AH? well did you know the LW actually already have a 'field conversion' in AH on the 190a5?
The Wr21 rockets were not a factory modification(U), they were actually a field mod designation 'R1'
also they were only fitted to the aircraft after the two outboard cannons were removed. In AH of course you can carry them even with 4x20mm loadout. It is a little error which doesnt affect much but its still an error.
oh and if we gonna start the 'i want' business then 1000kg for 110s and some of the 190s(with tail wheel mod i think) and if i remember correctly the arado carried them and i think some me262s had bombs and rockets :)
just thought id do the typical LW request just so you guys can continue with your little run of gags :) (should i put a few 'waaaaa's in the request? :D)
personally id love to see all aircraft get their full compliment of the various weapons including the RAF DT and rocket options, this great 16 rocket mod and the 2000lb bomb for P38 if they had them. It just means more choice for us when we fly and thats nothing but a bonus for us all if you ask me.(Only if they were used in combat of course so this rules out many of the weirder LW ones)
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262 with eggs was very common in WW2 and it would be a nice addition. I was reading that it was much slower on climb than the Ar234 though and that's not brilliant if you've got full fuel tanks.
Think the article was in last months Flypast.
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should make the overloaded aircraft perk options
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What version of the Me 262 carried bombs?
The one we have might not have been able to carry them.
Maybe its time for a German Mutant Plane? :eek:
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Originally posted by AVRO1
What version of the Me 262 carried bombs?
The one we have might not have been able to carry them.
Maybe its time for a German Mutant Plane? :eek:
The one with dual pylons under the forward fuselage for the bombs and only 2 cannons. Me262A-2a
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
The one with dual pylons under the forward fuselage for the bombs and only 2 cannons. Me262A-2a
Thats what I thought.
TY very much.
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
The one with dual pylons under the forward fuselage for the bombs and only 2 cannons. Me262A-2a
Actually, no. There are photographs of Me-262A-1a aircraft (in particular, wk/nr 110813 of KG(j)51) carrying SC250 bombs on the nose racks with four cannon, as well as the Me-261A-2a version with only two cannon (as in 9K+BN of 5./KG(j)51), possibly a Me-262A-2a/U1, in which the space freed up by the removed cannon was used for a bomb-aiming device. So both the A-1a and A-2a versions could[/u] carry bombs; which particular aircraft of the A-1a version had the bomb rack mounts depended on the individual production -- most of the A-1a aircraft did not have the bomb rack fittings. There was also a single Me-262A-2a/U2 where the entire nose section was replaced with a nose blister and space for a bombardier to lay in the nose and operate a bombsight, which carried no cannon at all.
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Originally posted by Shiva
There was also a single Me-262A-2a/U2 where the entire nose section was replaced with a nose blister and space for a bombardier to lay in the nose and operate a bombsight, which carried no cannon at all.
Bet that was very cramped, and scary because i don't think it would be 2 easy to bail out....
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Just because the tiffie could carry 16 rockets doesn't mean that that feature shuld be added to AH.
For example, a P-47D could carry 2x 1k, 1x500, and 10 rockets, but it didn't regurlarly happen. Therefore, the P47 should not have that weapon layout available either.
I think by lowering the payloads of some fighters to somthing more realistic, several gameplay issues would go away.
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Originally posted by AtmkRstr
Just because the tiffie could carry 16 rockets doesn't mean that that feature shuld be added to AH.
For example, a P-47D could carry 2x 1k, 1x500, and 10 rockets, but it didn't regurlarly happen. Therefore, the P47 should not have that weapon layout available either.
I think by lowering the payloads of some fighters to somthing more realistic, several gameplay issues would go away.
I can't see anyone above requesting the Typhoon to have 16 rockets in AH. Thrila is simply asking a question about a picture showing 16 rocket loadout on the Typhoon.
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Shiva, yes what you say is true, but the Me262A-2a was a true bomber design while the 1a was a fighter, adapted to the bomber role.
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Originally posted by Replicant
I can't see anyone above requesting the Typhoon to have 16 rockets in AH. Thrila is simply asking a question about a picture showing 16 rocket loadout on the Typhoon.
I got the impression that some of the respondants were trying to draw attention on how it was lacking from AH, therefore subtly implying that it should be added.
I think Hazed also got that impression because he made the comment "oh and if we gonna start the 'i want' business..."
damn. I feel like a lawyer.