Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Gixer on August 05, 2003, 11:35:43 PM
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Anyone know why HT gave Tiffie such a fragile radiator? Seems one ping from the rear and it's gone. Very frustrating, especially given it's brick like gliding abilities.
...-Gixer
-Hells Angels-
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You should try flying the magic-one-ping-radiator Dora.
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BTW, how many secons can u fly witn Typh radiator damaged? 10 to 15 seconds with Dora.
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Enough time to say bugger and see how far away you are from nearest base of any kind. I would assume Dora glides alot better. Then again anything glides better then a Tiffie.
Either way, shame both these aircraft have what seems to be grossly overrated damage models as far as radiator hits.\
...-Gixer
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I don't know if the damage is overmodeled or not, but the Tiffy radiator is an awfully big target.
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the tiffie's radiator is very large, actually the tiffie itselt is very large 9ft tall to the cockpit and weighs 7 tonnes :) one hell of a plane tho :)
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Next time your radiator gets pinged, just before the engine self destructs, turn your rpm's all the way down. You'll find she'll glide a bit better.;)
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Even with rpms reduced the Typhoon glides like a rock :)
It is possible though to use the engine like AKWeave suggests and take the Typhoon back a pretty long distance. I've covered more than a sector before from under 10K by using the engine like this. It's slow going though so most people don't bother and just ditch. The key is, the second you get hit in the rad you need to run for home and gain altitude. Don't make 1 more pass, just leave immediately.
I think the P-51 is probably king of the glide.. that thing can go forever with the rpms down and the engine off. Amazing.
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Well i think the typhoon (and tempest) do have large radiators and id imagine they were easy to hit or more likely to catch some bullets,in a way this is a good thing....
strangely enough i just today flew a typhoon and fought an LA7 in a HO and we both hit in a real dead on HO from 2.0K right past each others nose:)
The typhoon was hit in the radiator and engine,black and white smoke and then the left wing came off.seemed like a realistic pattern of damage.
My hits hit the La7 right in the nose and then under his left wing with a single hit sprite on the underside as the bullets strayed off. His tail came off!??!? which seemed a bit silly considering where i hit.none near the tail it appeared.net lag? super tough nose on LA7? :)
At least the typhoon seems to damage where its hit :) could say thats a positive point for the model! :D
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Hazed, maybe the La was shaking so much from some sort of engine damage that it vibrated the tail off.;)
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What i do is when i'm hit in the radiator and start trailing smoke, gain as much alt as i can and then shut the engine off.
With the engine off i start to glide down losing lots of alt but at least im going in the right direction, even if it is pretty slow.
This gives your engine time to cool down a bit and when your gauge isn't in the red anymore, start your engine back up and try and gain some alt so you can shut it off and start gliding again.
Keep doing that and eventually you might make it back home still able to start your engine.
Pretty hard to do in a tiffy though so flapping your arms might help a little.
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King of the glide?
Ta152H-1..
I glided 17miles back to base from 4k!
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Glide depends a lot on actual fuel load. I usually get my radiator dead with 75% or 50% fuel left in D9, and this way Dora glides like a brick.
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Mandoble you don't have typhoon time don't you ?
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Originally posted by straffo
Mandoble you don't have typhoon time don't you ?
No, I dont, what is that time? 10 secs?
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I didn't timed it exactly but overall it's a lot less than any 190.
I spent last month in all brand of 190 and each time I got hit in the radiator I was able to go away ...
Don't read me wrong : I don't say I was able to RTB each time ,but more that it was less stressing than the same event in a Typhoon.
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Coolant leak times are exactly the same for all planes.
It is randomly generated from 30 to 90 secs.
And now mandoble you can start your argument how thats unfair to the 190, and it should leak much slower than all other planes.
HiTech
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So it is at least 30 secons plus the overheating time, righ? Well, I went offline and did several passes over a vehicle field until my radiator got damaged. With a stop watch I counted 19 seconds until temperature started to rise and 28 until engine stopped. I've never got more than that online with radiator damaged.
Is your random number using a current time based seed or a fixed seed?
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Originally posted by hitech
Coolant leak times are exactly the same for all planes.
It is randomly generated from 30 to 90 secs.
And now mandoble you can start your argument how thats unfair to the 190, and it should leak much slower than all other planes.
HiTech
You mean whatever the amount of coolant in the engine the duration of the leak will be comprised between 30 to 90 seconds ?