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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Krusher on November 27, 2001, 10:34:00 AM
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This is probably a rehash of an old subject.
Last night a fellow told me that he uses Autopilot to pull out of steep dives when blacked out. I know, I know you guys dont want to hear about Air Warrior, but that was a much harsher blackout model and we never had that option.
Is this a common use of autopilot and am I missing a trick by not using it as a crutch ?
after all when in Rome !
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yea that is kinda gamey if you ask me.
kill it please.
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Well, gotta say I sure would miss the auto pilot for beer runs while climbing to target.
Maybe it shouldn't engage above a certain G load.
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Maybe you shouldn't worry about how someone else flies THEIR plane for their $15.00 a month. Sheesh, just kill them if they are enemy. Why try to tell others how to play?? I'm sure you wouldn't like it if they told YOU how to play. :rolleyes:
Final note on this, borrowed from other threads. :p
If it is in the game it must be allowed. Think of it as a "feature". Kind of like flying off the map and hiding fleets. :p
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I've always been anti-autotrim being enabled during a black out, red out or when wounded.
Westy
[ 11-27-2001: Message edited by: O'Westy ]
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Krusher the game is obviously perfect. I hear HTC have put Ubisoft and Microsoft out of business and the whole staff are buying personal private jets. Making any changes to the game could threaten their total domination of the computer game industry. How dare you suggest an improvement?
And tsk tsk for worrying about how others play. I mean one time when I was playing basketball I kept picking up the ball and running with it. And some butthead on the other team said I couldn't do it! Man the nerve of him to tell me how I should play!
[ 11-27-2001: Message edited by: funkedup ]
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It's the oldest trick going in a compression dive, Krush.
Hit alt-X and hope the wings stay on.
In the same way, if you're pilot wounded, line up on the runway, wheels and flaps down; very small ROC and set speed to 120, hit alt X and kill the engine when you hear the wheels touch and you're 99% sure of a successfull, blacked out landing.
I love it :)
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Originally posted by Seeker:
I love it :)
Geez, all this realism. I dont know if i can hack it :).
<==who uses one of them "x"thingamajigs to work himself out of spins with the trackball. It doesnt work all the time, but most of the time it does ;).
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ouch, wouldn't auto-level rip the wings off in most compression dives? In a TOD, I ripped the wings off of a Ta152 in a dive just by trying to regain with slow up on the elevator trim. The auto level would have been a much more violent approach.
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Autopilot is necessary for grabbing a beer, or going AFK for a qucik diaper change. I woould not want to see it removed....
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Nifty
Ive never ripped my wings off with manual trim when pulling out of a compressed dive. Not even in my glass winged hellcat. Sure ya wasnt yankin up on your pitch? :)
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FunkedUp
Did you pay for your shoes? jersey? and right to play bastket ball? I mean if you did you should be able to do what you want right? Only makes sense.. hehe
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I would also hate to see auto pilot removed, but under some circumstances it should not be able to be activated.
[ 11-27-2001: Message edited by: Am0n ]
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Sure ya wasnt yankin up on your pitch?
I aint no pile-it but isn't the elevator the thingie that makes me pitch up and down?
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Its nice...it lets me go pee after I drink beer.
xBAT
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Originally posted by skernsk:
Autopilot is necessary for a quick diaper change.
Well, being new, I try to start out w/ a clean diaper before taking off.... :D
dh
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Well I know this may be better served being asked elsewhere but since its been brought up: What does actually happen to your flying ability if you have a "pilot-wounded"?
Is there any real affect or is it just for ambience? "Gee sir I seem to be bleeding profusely onto the floorboards. Wonder what it'll look like if I do a barrel roll now with 12 pints of blood sloshing around my feet?" :D
Everytime I get that the rest of my poor bird is fairly torn up as well so I am unsure what effects there are for wounding the pilot. :)
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taking it out would be the worst decision the HTC could make IMO, what if I need to take a leak? am I just gonna try to trim it out and hope it doesn't crash????? huh???
you may not like the feature but me and many others use it a lot, it's part of the sim learn to live with it.
Don't even try to complain about it being "unrealistic" there's some stuff i can claim to prove unrealistic but i don't go around asking for them to be implemented. You want Auto-Trim taken away? fine than you better take away all ammo counters (except german planes)........ the arguement can go on all day. It's fine the way it is now, don't fix something if it isn't broken
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but wouldn't it be much easier (and safer) to just apply some trim and pull back lightly on the stick in such a situation? I would think if you were in a blackout/compression situation and auto-pilot could pull you out of it, it'd just rip your wings right off!
I do think it would be nice to disable auto pilot when you're blacked out tho'. I know I've used it countless times when blacked out from a pilot wound to keep myself from flying into the ground.
SOB
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"you may not like the feature but me and many others use it a lot, it's part of the sim learn to live with it."
Well said, I couldn't agree more.
Just like Mindano....
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Is there any realism in this game? NO! That's precisely why it's a game.
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wow, didn't expect that voss, hey if you don't like it leave, Ok? I mean i find the flight model very realistic, yeah it could be more realistic in cockpits, features.... but come on this is a Massive Multiplayer Game with many planes in it, do you really expect complete perfection?
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No, and that's not why I said that. I'm just tired of the "It didn't happen like that in WWII," and "That's not really how it is" crap! I mean, if this game really was as close to real as it could possibly be, not many would be getting kills, no one would be having fun, and flights would consist of long, unproductive sorties. PLUS, your gaming system would cost out the ass!
I like it like it is, and that's why I'm here. No, I ain't leaving. You leave! ;)
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Ahh the beloved x key, how many times have you pulled my plane out of dives that were so fast that I had no elevator authority at all .
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Originally posted by skernsk:
Autopilot is necessary for grabbing a beer, or going AFK for a qucik diaper change. I woould not want to see it removed....
skernsk you wear diapers when you fly? :D
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Originally posted by skernsk:
I aint no pile-it but isn't the elevator the thingie that makes me pitch up and down?
It Sure is Eh..
But i wouldnt call adjusting trim "yanking".. eh. That would refer to using your stick to adjust heading drasticly.. eh
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I dont see anyone asking to get rid of Auto trim. Why so hostile? from what i have gathered here is that people would like to see you not be able to use it under certain circumstances.
With out auto trim we would all have to invest in bed pans and small refrigerators ( some have :D lol) for our computer rooms.
I dont see why it would cause such a fuss to have to manualy trim out of a stall.
Yea if your wounded you should be able to auto trim, but you shouldnt be able to activate it after/while your blacked out from the wound.. going unconsious should be just that.
[ 11-28-2001: Message edited by: Am0n ]
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dont remove it.
Just make it unusable in steep angles.
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I think the trim should be left alone. If you don't like it, don't use it.
So what if there are pilots using it to recover from compression dives. It's not as if you couldn't manually adjust the elevator trim (blacked out or not).
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM:
(blacked out or not).
Well, if yer blacked out the only thing you should be able to do is pray that you dont come out of the black out kissing dirt or blown off the virtual sky.
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In a hi speed dive autopilot will just rip yer wings off. Manual trim is about the only way u'll pull out if compressed, and even then luck may come into it.
When wounded, auto-pilot is a godsend. If a guy is pulling enough gee to blackout and then hits autopilot to level.. surely the guy he is fighting now has a nice level target no?
I use auto angle when trying to glide home when outta gas, and autospeed on climbout... not much else.
SKurj