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Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: MasterBlaster on August 06, 2003, 12:46:01 PM
So here you have the Episcopalians confirming their first openly gay bishop.  While I applaud their coming into line with contemporary societal views, how can any religion maintain any credibility when they change their interpretations of the “Word of God” to suit their needs?
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: Yeager on August 06, 2003, 01:02:02 PM
Religion, like all human reasoning,  is open to interrpretation.
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: DiabloTX on August 06, 2003, 01:03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
Religion, like all human reasoning,  is open to interrpretation.


Not according to the Muslim's it ain't!!!  Time to go rock collecting again...:D
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: Wanker on August 06, 2003, 01:03:39 PM
Simple. Religions have been re-interpreting the WoG for centuries. They are merely adapting with the times(albeit being dragged by wild horses...and slowly, at that).

At least organized religions(well, most) have learned that if they don't adapt and change to societal norms, they are at risk of losing membership(dollars).
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: funkedup on August 06, 2003, 01:04:53 PM
I don't think there is anything in the Bible about bishops or Episcopalians.
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: Gadfly on August 06, 2003, 01:06:00 PM
What is an Episcopalian, anyway?  Do they allow their pastors to marry?
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: SOB on August 06, 2003, 01:10:02 PM
Yeah, it helps cut down on deviant sexual acts with alter boys.  


SOB

-edit- Sorry, I couldn't help myself :)
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: funkedup on August 06, 2003, 01:18:58 PM
At least in the past it did.  Now they are apparently actively recruiting cornholers.
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: john9001 on August 06, 2003, 01:20:28 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Not according to the Muslim's it ain't!!!  :D


there are muslims and there are muslims, a muslim friend of mine said he going to go fishing and drink beer on his day off, i said "but , your a muslim, you can't drink", he said "oh, i'm not that kind of a muslim, i drink beer and eat pork just like you"

shades of gray
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: SOB on August 06, 2003, 01:21:08 PM
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Originally posted by funkedup
At least in the past it did.  Now they are apparently actively recruiting cornholers.


LOL, you are a bastard too!


SOB
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: davidpt40 on August 06, 2003, 01:52:47 PM
The devoutness of your religiousness is inversely proportional to your enjoyment of life.

Example:  Fantatical muslims hate their lives so much they explode themselves.

Slightly muslim person eats pork and beer and spends free time fishing.
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: TPIguy on August 06, 2003, 02:09:16 PM
I think the presbyterians did this a few yeas ago (gay pastor that is.) We'll probibly see more of this among the less conservative organizations in the next few years.
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: muckmaw on August 06, 2003, 02:10:11 PM
Last bus for hell now boarding...

Mr. Scorcese..seat 14A
Mr. Hussein...14C
Mr. Funked.......22B
Mr. SOB...Hmmm...you seem to be the conductor.

The catholic religion is nefarious for adjusting the WoG to fit it's recruiting efforts. Example..the historical record shows Jesus was most likely born in September. Yet we celebrate his birth on December 25th. Why? Because December 25th was the pagan holiday, the feast of the everlasting sun..or something. When the roman empire moved to Catholicism, they found it would be easier to gain converts if people did not have to change their holiday.

What about that pesky Hell/Heaven thing? Well, we can fix that. At least one of the early Pope's can. He's a man, just like us...well some of us. Anyway, guess who created purgatory?  Yep...a pope.

I believe organized religion is the worst thing that could happen to faith.

Oh, Jerry Falwell Sucks...not as much as hippes...but he still sucks
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: Skuzzy on August 06, 2003, 02:17:17 PM
The measure of a troll.  Someone that starts a thread and never comments in it, never attempts to manage it, and never attempts to keep it on topic.  Just FYI.

This topic has the earmarks of being extremely volitile.  Just a side step in the hopes of keeping it civil.
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: SunKing on August 06, 2003, 02:41:50 PM
LYNCH MOB!
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: MasterBlaster on August 06, 2003, 02:47:29 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
The measure of a troll.  Someone that starts a thread and never comments in it, never attempts to manage it, and never attempts to keep it on topic.  Just FYI.

This topic has the earmarks of being extremely volitile.  Just a side step in the hopes of keeping it civil.


What else is there for me to say?  Except for S.O.B.'s comments, it has been fairly on-topic and not yet uncivil.  I haven't found much else to chime in about - except that I'm glad muckmaw brought up the Catholics changing interpretation of the WoG.  I would have addressed it in my initial post, but I couldn't think of any examples....

Anyway - my post was not intended as a troll for the sake of trolling, I enjoy a more serious discussion of potentially volatile subjects ;)
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: miko2d on August 06, 2003, 02:55:48 PM
Skuzzy: The measure of a troll.  Someone that starts a thread and never comments in it, never attempts to manage it, and never attempts to keep it on topic.  Just FYI.

 I think you are confusing a forum discussion with a live chat.
 While an hour and a half silence in a live chat is conspicious, there is nothing strange about a person dropping some idea in the morning and then getting back hours later to see what responce it elicited and commenting on the replies.

 Some of us do have to work during the day hours... :)

 miko
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: DiabloTX on August 06, 2003, 03:03:33 PM
Work?  Oh hell no, I am a 14th year sophomore at a community college majoring liberal arts living off of Gov't loans and grants.  Or so my instructors tell me...:p
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: Skuzzy on August 06, 2003, 03:04:16 PM
Never accused anyone of anything, and I think the defination of "never" is pretty clear miko.  Again, just FYI.  No reason for being defensive, is there? :)
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: Saurdaukar on August 06, 2003, 03:11:33 PM
Hey, I just won a free bottle of Coke.
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: bustr on August 06, 2003, 03:20:16 PM
The Catholic Church in the Middel Ages outlawed marriage in its ranks because when preist died his lands and or holdings reverted to his wife and or eldest son rather than the church. Since that time the church has had an ongoing problem with child molesting and homosexuality in the ranks.

The Protastant derivitives allowed marriage for the latter types of reasons, and because practicing what you preach works better in the long run if you want to promote the traditional concept of family.

The Papal Wars came about because the Church at one point owned more land holdings than those of the combined European Monarchal community. Which ment the Catholic Church had a bigger cash flow, ie, more political control.
Title: Re: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: hblair on August 06, 2003, 04:48:05 PM
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Originally posted by MasterBlaster
So here you have the Episcopalians confirming their first openly gay bishop.  While I applaud their coming into line with contemporary societal views, how can any religion maintain any credibility when they change their interpretations of the “Word of God” to suit their needs?


Where are episcopalians mentioned in the bible?
Title: The Catch-22 of religion
Post by: Frogm4n on August 06, 2003, 04:55:10 PM
wait wait, did someone just say

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how can any religion maintain any credibility when they change their interpretations of the “Word of God” to suit their needs?



well you just discredited every single organized religion in the word.  I knew you religious boys were not that brainwashed.