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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SOB on August 06, 2003, 04:02:33 PM
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...I'll leave the obvious joke to others, this topic is about meat...err pork...n/m.
Just had a 1/2 rack of smoked baby backs with a dry rub from the Smokin' Swine today. As usual it was devine, as is everything at the Swine. A world without meat would be a horrible one! :)
http://news.statesmanjournal.com/cityguide/article.cfm?i=3467
BTW...since this article, the Smokin' Swine has moved to a bigger location and expanded in that new location. If you're ever in Salem don't pass it up!
SOB
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We'll have to hit Armadillo Willy's during the Mini-Con.
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i can't believe a resturant named it self "Smokin' Swine "
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Fire + Dead Pig = Joy
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Originally posted by john9001
i can't believe a resturant named it self "Smokin' Swine "
Hell, that's the only reason I ate there the first time! :D
SOB
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Smokin Swine is no frills awesome.
MiniD
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Small heart attack or a bad case of reflux and people start eating veggie burgers with relish!!
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um what are po'boys and Q sandwiches?
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i never use relish on my burgers , vegy or beef
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Wow now I know how to make money, take the food my grandmother has made for years here in Georgia, and open a restuarant in some High Fahlootin Yankee town
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Being vegetarian or burger eater is the same monstruosity for me.
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Because vegetarians are freaks of nature who would not survive one week in a post apocalyptic world.
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Heck of alot easier to eat nuts and berries than it is to catch a rabbit or kill a bull.
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Publick House — seems like some sort of contradiction, with the English spelling of public
Err. I have never seen Public writen as "publick" in a pub sign and I'm sure no one else in the UK has either.
Gatso
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whats the address in salem (intersection would do it). I'm always on the lookout for good BBQ.
next time your in Portland try Campbell's Bar-B-Q (87th se powell) the only good BBQ I've had since leaving Kansas City 15 years ago.
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um what are po'boys and Q sandwiches?
never try them, or even ask for a discription. you'd never be able to eat english food again.
I try to limit my bbq to about once a month. if it's made well you can feel your arteries clog a little more with every bite.
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It's on the corner of Market and Park. Just take the Market Street exit and go West on Market. It's on the right, one block past the AM/PM & directly across from the Nissan dealership - if you get to the Texico, you've gone too far. Definitely worth the drive! Try some Cheerwine while you're there...he ships the stuff in from somewhere in the SE. Kind of a cherry soda pop.
I can't imagine you finding anything that doesn't taste good on the menu, but I recommend:
-Ribs
-Pork Loin Sammich
-Sampler
-Hush Puppies
-Fried Pickles (on the menu as an appetizer, but you can ask for it as a side)
-Red Beans & Rice
If you're adventurous, try the BBQ Cole Slaw. I'm still not sure if I like it or hate it, but it's definitely a different taste. Best to eat the whole bowl at once, since each new time you taste it you get that initial hit of "WTF is that?!"
SOB
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Originally posted by funkedup
We'll have to hit Armadillo Willy's during the Mini-Con.
Only after we go to Outback, gotta try their ribs and coconut shirmp... :D
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The Rendevous in Memphis and it's dry rub sauce is damn good also.
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Originally posted by davidpt40
Heck of alot easier to eat nuts and berries than it is to catch a rabbit or kill a bull.
Its heck of alot easier to eat beaver.
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Jack's Stack (http://www.fiorellas.com/jackstack/restaurants/menu.htm)
Anywhere else is just pretending to be a BBQ joint.
;)
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Originally posted by davidpt40
Heck of alot easier to eat nuts and berries than it is to catch a rabbit or kill a bull.
Catch 'em? Hell, shoot the lil bastards... a lot safer than finding out those were poisonous berries.
-SW
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Damn you SOB, I had to get ribs for dinner tonight after this thread.
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You got any updates about the con?
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Emmmm Cheerwine, damn good stuff used to drink it like water when I was younger. I cant believe that Sweet Tea is like the latest greatest oddity up there, down here in the South (Real South, aka Georgia) it flows like water at any restuarant. Hell you can even get it at Wendy's
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Local Restuarant, the food isnt that great but the menu gives you and idea of the type of food I grew up on
http://www.menusunlimited.net/Menus.CFM?ID=21
My friends and I have a tradition of roasting a whole pig before UGA's first home game. Dig a pit etc and either never go to bed or wake up at 3 a.m. and begin the roast, usually heavily inebriated come 10 or 11 its done and the meat just falls off.
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Pfunk, before the Swine came along the closest thing to barbecue was Tony Romas or buying a bucket of Lloyds BBQ Beef slop from the local grocery store. If I was going to worship a god, I'd probably pick out the owner of the Smokin' Swine as my diety!
And Funked...shouldn't you really be thanking me? :D I look forward to eating at Armadillo Willy's during the con.
SOB
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Only after we go to Outback, gotta try their ribs and coconut shirmp... :D
Outback? Well, don't forget to try that Mc Donald's I've heard so much about. :rolleyes:
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LOL I like their ribs... What are you some sort of french McDonald's hater? :p
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LOL Grun...I was just thinking about going to a great local joint, or going to a chain restaurant. BTW worlds greatest pork is served in Memphis at too many places to mention....the smaller the better!
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
You got any updates about the con?
Yeah I am supposed to be finishing the website right now but I'm sleepy and going to bed. I have the contract in hand from the hotel, and our website is 90% complete. I think it will be up and we will be taking registrations tomorrow evening.
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Originally posted by rpm371
LOL Grun...I was just thinking about going to a great local joint, or going to a chain restaurant. BTW worlds greatest pork is served in Memphis at too many places to mention....the smaller the better!
The Outback is local, like 3 mins from my house.. ;) Too hard to pass up and damn good. :)
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Outbacks coconut shrimp are great, though IMO they over-spice the beef and hide all the flavor.
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Yea I dont like their beef or chicken, but their coconut shrimp and ribs are excellent. :) Damn them, its almost 1:00AM and they are closed now...
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I would choose a good meal over sex anyday :D
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Pigs are pretty intelligent creatures, smarter than cats and some dogs.
If I do have to eat meat, I stick to the less intelligent animals, chicken, fish, crustaceans/bivalves.
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Eat the dumb ones first?
Interesting concept.
Where do the dolphins like Flipper fit in? I guess they're the last of the fishes to go, right?
Man... great reality TV potential there. Pigs vs Cattle in "Slaughterhouse Feud!" Losing team gets it in the neck.
You could be on to something big! Bivalves vs Crustaceans is going to be tough though.. how do you check a bivalve's intelligence?
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Well clams dont have brains, so they probably don't feel pain.
And believe it or not, dolphins aren't 'fishes'. They are eutheran mammals (like us ) :eek:
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OK, so you want the Cetacea to compete with the Eutheria, Metatheria and the Monotremes then?
So, when the pigs whip the cattle big time, then the dolphins can take on the pigs next with wombats and duck-billed platypus fighting it out to take on the winner?
We could make big money with this show. Especially if we film the audience scarfing up the losers after each round.......
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Originally posted by davidpt40
Pigs are pretty intelligent creatures, smarter than cats and some dogs.
If I do have to eat meat, I stick to the less intelligent animals, chicken, fish, crustaceans/bivalves.
you do know that cats are over 10x more "intelligent" than dogs in scientific studies.... at least i hope you did.
so then where are pigs you ask? well if you believe TV the discovery channel had a show about a year ago showing dogs then pigs then cats on a "scale" of intelligence and it was like
Cats
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in relative terms.
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you do know that cats are over 10x more "intelligent" than dogs in scientific studies.... at least i hope you did.
What "studies"? That sounds pretty bogus to me.
But dolphins, pigs, dogs, and cats are all very conscious and aware of their surroundings. They all have at least a 50 word vocabulary and can be trained to interact with humans. Not only that, but they are all predators, and it is very inefficient to eat predators (pigs can be fed grain however).
Animals that feed off of plants and algae are more numerous and usually have a less developed nervous system.
I'd think it would be more ethical to eat a clam than KoKo the sign-languaging gorilla.
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Probably not, from the clam's point of view.
I do like cats however. Sweet and Sour Siamese is one of my very favorites! General Tso's Tabby is right up there though and who can ever pass up a steaming plate of Crispy Szechuan Sphynx? The hairless Sphynx is perfect in this dish!
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Apparently we wouldn't have evolved such big brains if our cave dwelling cousins hadn't started eating meat, from a nutritional point of view.
Just to add to the debate, sharks are considered x30 more intelligent than cats, or put another way, x50 times more intelligent than David Beckham/Posh Spice combined.
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you do know that cats are over 10x more "intelligent" than dogs in scientific studies
I think it is a scewed study.
I mean cats sit around and 'put on aires', and act smart. which may well have impressed the 'intelectual' types who do these types of studies ( who also sit around and say they are smarter but don't actually produce a useful product or anything where they might accidentily look dumb, or 'let the cat out of the bag', so to speak).
while dogs on the other hand actually do more useful stuff, at the risk of occasionally looking stupid.
I mean it's not hard to make a good dog look dumb. you act like you throw the stick, and the dog runs off and tries his best to go get it for you, and ends up looking dumb when he realizes you haven't thrown it.
while the cat looks smarter by not falling for it. some might say he sees through the act. while I tend to think he wasn't nescasarily 'not fooled' so much as not gonna get his lazy bellybutton up even if you had realy thrown the stick.
you do have to give cats this though. thay are smart enough to trick some humans into providing them with food, shelter, and medical attention ( while the humans wait on them hand and foot). all this while the most usefull thing they ever did was kill small vermin (which breaks down to basicaly getting their own meal every once in a great while)
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A measure of social development is the ability to form social groups. Cats never managed this apart from lions. Dogs, on the other hand, naturally form social groupings.
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I think you guys are missing the point. It's not important how smart the animal is while alive, but rather how tasty they are after being slaughtered and slow smoked for about 18 hours. :)
SOB
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Hmmmm... good point SOB.
Cats tend to dry out when smoked that long unless you use the water smoker. Even then, they're less than optimal. So they'd rank lower than pigs for sure.
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plus, cat ribs are very small..
ask my brother...
he found out the hard way in China...
what was it he said?
"Damn these ribs are small!"
chinese reply:
"well cat's don't have very large ribs, that was the largest
we could find at the time"
brothers reply:
"ralph"
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Nothing beats a hickory smoked Golden Retriever.
-SW
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at least the ribs are larger ! :p
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A measure of social development is the ability to form social groups. Cats never managed this apart from lions. Dogs, on the other hand, naturally form social groupings.
Cats only have a 50 word vocabulary, while dogs can learn up to 200+ words.
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here is a little experiment for you... take three weeks of dry food and water and a large clean box of say, sand and then leave on your cats for three weeks while you go have a great vacation.... do the same but do it with a large dog instead next time.
Let me see.... drool and moist "I wuv u cuz I'm stupid and am a pack animal" eyes or fun vacation?
As for vermin... I don't care about motive so long as the vermin are eliminated. We got two cats at work... there is no more destruction by vermin (chewed electrical...feces etc.) course the first few days the place looked like a slaughter house with blood halfway up the walls and little mouse parts from a dozen or so vermin scattered all over the place but...
I like cats fine. They leave me alone and I leave them alone. My hands don't stink after I pet em and they don't drool.
lazs
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Lazs is right as always.
Cats also have pretty sophisticated social behavior. Some kittens get taken away from their litter and mother too young and don't get socialized, so maybe that's where people get the wrong idea. A socialized cat is a completely different animal.
I don't know how smart they are though. I do know they are pretty clever when they want to get somewhere or eat something. How many dogs have figured out how to use doorknobs and faucets? We have one cat that not only knows how to open doors, she knows how to unlock them.
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Dogs are smart enough to be trained for many different tasks:
Seeing eye dogs
Drug sniffing dogs
Sheep/cattle herding dogs
Police dogs
Army dogs
Cats seem to only follow their instincts. Cant be taught much/anything.
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Intelligence isn't a matter of what you can brain wash an animal to do.
The only thing that dog is pulling the blind person down the street for is so it can get it's next treat.
Cats and Dogs don't have a word vocabulary, the associate the varying pitches coming from our mouths with something they've been either beaten into submission to understand, or saturated with treats.
If you think dogs are super intelligent, my dog will prove it all wrong. Dumb as dirt doesn't even begin to describe it, I'm not even sure it knows it's own name...
-SW
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You're absolutely right Wlfgng, the ribs are much larger and there is so much more meat on it's hind quarters. An absolute feast for a family of 8. Best thing of all, you can have it fetch the hickory sticks for its own flavoring.
-SW
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ouch.. lmfao!!!
damn dude.. that's some funny chit
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That is true. Cats will usually only wash themselves for you before entering the abbatoir.
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If you can get a cat to enter anything and keep your eyeballs, I salute you!
-SW
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Pffffttt.
The recorded sound of a can of tuna being opened with an electric can opener would have them stampeding through the very gates of hell itself to get in.
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man Toad, your cats live high on the hog!
I just used to shake the purina box......
and it was full of dirt...
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Intelligence isn't a matter of what you can brain wash an animal to do.
The only thing that dog is pulling the blind person down the street for is so it can get it's next treat.
Cats and Dogs don't have a word vocabulary, the associate the varying pitches coming from our mouths with something they've been either beaten into submission to understand, or saturated with treats.
If you think dogs are super intelligent, my dog will prove it all wrong. Dumb as dirt doesn't even begin to describe it, I'm not even sure it knows it's own name...
Incorrect.
So what if a dog performs a task because it thinks it will get a treat. Thats motivation.
Some animals do have a vocabulary.
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You say its incorrect, yet you can debunk none of it.
So what if a dog performs a task because it thinks it will get a treat. Thats motivation.
That does not denote intelligence. If that is true, then a carrier pigeon must be the smartest creature on this planet. It can find its way from one place to its home without ever having flown over that area before.
Some animals do have a vocabulary.
Yeah, like a Parrot. Dogs and cats react to noises we call words, only because they had been trained to react to them via rewards. This doesn't mean they have a vocabulary, but an excercised and capable memory.
-SW
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If you think dogs are super intelligent, my dog will prove it all wrong. Dumb as dirt doesn't even begin to describe it, I'm not even sure it knows it's own name...
-SW
I'd keep that to myself if I was you. most people who spend alot of time around dogs know that after 3 or 4 years they take on the characteristics of the owner.
and cats are more reward oriented than dogs. any time I see a cat that was actually trained to do something useful a reward has to be given almost every time.
when they are puppies you have to reward dogs, but once they are full grown most of your smarter dogs do what they are told out of a sense of loyalty, and a desire to make you happy. cats work out fo a desire to make themselves happy.
and as far as vocabulary and the usefulness of what dogs can do. I used to work with some brothers who took their dog with them every where. all you had to do was say the dogs name and Budwieser. the dog would jump into the truck bed, open the cooler, dig past the cokes and bring you a beer. you didn't have to say it with any special tone, or point at the truck. just say the dogs name followed by the word budweiser and he'd get you your beer. I've never seen a cat do anything remotely close to as useful as that. now if they'd only taught it a Crown Royal comand.
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Originally posted by gatso
Publick House — seems like some sort of contradiction, with the English spelling of public
Err. I have never seen Public writen as "publick" in a pub sign and I'm sure no one else in the UK has either.
Gatso
you dont pay much attention to the "1337" part of the internet do you...i'd be scared if i saw one of those tards spell a word correctly...