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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Udie on October 26, 2000, 10:13:00 AM
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This may be a knee jerk reaction BUT... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
To all those who closed thier accounts over HTC's price test/survey. What a bunch of snivelling little wimps you are. Good riddens. GOOD GOD MAN! Did they come and take $10/month out of your wallets? HMM what priced did all of you agree to pay when you signed up?
I gotta say I was realy suprised by some of the names I saw were closing their accounts over this. Even after reading Pryo's explanation, which seemed pretty black and white to me. The way I read it is that if this works the price will go down for everybody. Bunch of damn kids I tell ya! Hey he didn't agree to pay the same price I did! Hey! their giving him a lower price than what I pay! I QUIT! I hope they don't send you guys the same offer, you realy don't deserve it now. It aught to cost you guys $40/month to come back, which you all will (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
$10 folks, 10$....
Udie
Go ahead and flame away, but since your not a paying customer any longer I won't listen to your opinions (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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U go UDIE!!
Damn straight.
Hind tit suckin whiners. Begone with yah!
Hang
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Ya...you are all girlie men, if you come to ma neck of the woods, I can pump you up...full of .50 cal, I bet you hav' belly cheese too!
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Give em the dickens udie!!!
Buncha Girlscouts!!!!
Ahhh...I feel better now (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Ice
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Ya, what they said.
ts
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Udie,
its riddance, not riddens.
Good Riddance.
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Well that's it!! I quit!! Screw this crap!!
I can handle all the whiners who complain about the uber-ostwind and I can even handle the Beta price test but this crap from Udie I can't handle.
Who gave you the right to express your opinion?
Who told you that your opinion mattered?
Who told you you could have "Knee Jerk" reactions?
I'm so fed up with Udie that I'm quitting.
Udie I might have been able to stay if you just had a reaction but a "Knee Jerk" reaction went over the line.
If you can't have a normal "Reaction" like everyone else well....to hell with it.
I guess I'll stay if you promise to only have "reactions" in the future. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I had a reaction to that bottle of Jose Quervo Gold at the AH Con (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
DT,
I'm Texan it's riddens! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
udie
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It is never good when people leave Aces High, regardless of the situation. Let us not forget that.
Actualy where Udie comes from, it is good riddens!
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Bunch of freaking mamby pamby girly men
Please keep your opinions to yourself. As you can see, I take a lot of pride in how I look...
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It's so nice to see a well thought out reasoned post here with this thread. The classic title and hormonal thougth processes say so much about those who identify with it. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Mav (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I'm in luv.
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There are different people in this game, and not all hare Udie mentality oriented.
If for you is all ok, probably for others is not normal.
Respect others and let them go whitout barby girls comment.
They dont need test to know if the price of 10$ instead of 30$ get more players, is normal.
The problem is:
is that a game competitive whit others???
my point is NO!
AH have the possibility but at the moment i see a strange development direction.
I see big effort on put in the game late-war planes (only fighters). That mean only quake furball all time. This game need more than fighters or late-war monsters. (perk planes: i have read all about that argument)
Give us the opportunity to do what we want, divebombing, bomb runs, fighters, ground attack, torpedo bombing, SCENARIOS, ecc....
Transform AH in the most complete aerial ww2 simulatin, and people will pay 40$ whitout any problem.
Look at WW2OL, is a game that nobody know if will be operative, but a lot of people is interessed. Why??? because u can do what u want.
Put in AH a P-51H will improve the numbers of players???
Put in AH a Ta152 will improve the numbers of players???
Put in AH a G-59 will improve the numbers of players???
NO!!!!
Put in the game the possibility to do ground attak, ship attak, bombers attak, reworking the gun models and others little bugs put in the secondary to do list is the key to gain credibility and a constant financial support.
If this game was a very interesting WW2 simulator, any price test let people think to leave.
AH is fun but not more than that at the moment.
A free ex-customer opinion.
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Originally posted by Maverick:
It's so nice to see a well thought out reasoned post here with this thread. The classic title and hormonal thougth processes say so much about those who identify with it. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Mav (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Thank Goodness Emily Post showed up (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Cobra (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Everybody tackle visconti!
Had to spoil our mindless, lighthearted thread of one-liner replies!
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Its not a reason to quit.. its an excuse. Boredom is setting in.
HTC may want to consider if it is a good idea to hold off on introducing new aircraft until the fleet is finished. Maybe the fighter should make an early appearance.
AKDejaVu
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Deja, have a beer. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I got me thirty-five cent on accounta this here game dun gimme a discount fer 29.60 insteada 29.95, she busy?
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Originally posted by hblair:
Please keep your opinions to yourself. As you can see, I take a lot of pride in how I look...
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under modelled. fatty, you should know better!
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Not so, not so. She might be a little skinny, but boy she'll put some hair on your chest.
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Okay.. I'll bite.
Originally posted by VISCONTI:
They dont need test to know if the price of 10$ instead of 30$ get more players, is normal.
The problem is:
is that a game competitive whit others???
my point is NO!
If it's not competitive, what are you doing here? Have you played boxed sims? YOu know very well they are always released buggy and need several patches to fix them. Unless you're still play Aces Over Europe or Red Baron 1. Atleast here we get to intercept the bugs during the products developement cycle AND have a say in what we would like to see. It may get put on the back burner, but atleast I know we'll see it coming.
AH have the possibility but at the moment i see a strange development direction.
I see big effort on put in the game late-war planes (only fighters). That mean only quake furball all time. This game need more than fighters or late-war monsters. (perk planes: i have read all about that argument)
Let me let you in on a little secret... this is EXACTLY how they built WB. I know, I was there at the start. The only difference? It's f'in amazing and they include the customers in the products development. WB is highly successful, but things need time to be built. We have more planes in here that are much more detailed graphically and in their flight models than any boxed "sim". As for early war planes.. been there done that. That's how WB started off, with a few exceptions. Everyone and their mother is doing early war planesets. The disparity between each countries fighters is negligable. You would see endless furballs of 202s, 109Es, A6M2/3s, Ki43s, F4Fs, and SpitIs/IIs/Vs.
Give us the opportunity to do what we want, divebombing, bomb runs, fighters, ground attack, torpedo bombing, SCENARIOS, ecc....
Are we playing the same game? I'm quite sure we are not. You can divebomb, grab a plane, go dive bomb a field. Bombs runs? You gotta be kidding me right? Fighters? uhmmm.... okay. Ground attack? <begins scratching head> Ahhh Torpedo bombing!! 1.05, or don't you read want the developers tell us? Scenarios? What universe are you in? There is currently the med league running and the Afrika corp running. We also have snapshots going on. All run by US. We have CMs that setup the arenas for us, and we do our own thing. HTC builds us planes and things to use, we put them to use.
Transform AH in the most complete aerial ww2 simulatin, and people will pay 40$ whitout any problem.
It's on it's way. Apparently you are not a programmer. Otherwise you would know that things are extremely difficult to make and work on the THIRD try. Telling a chunk of silicon that has electrons pulsing through it what an airplane looks like and how it flies isn't very easy. WW2Ol has been announcing open beta as early as... earlier this year. Where is it now?
Look at WW2OL, is a game that nobody know if will be operative, but a lot of people is interessed. Why??? because u can do what u want.
You can do what you want here too. Of course, this product isn't even beta yet. Simply because they are trying to make it mostly complete for the end user before they let you download it. Let me let you in on a little secret.. Things almost never work when you do it the way they are doing it. How do you know it will work on your system? How does that other guy know it will work on his? Unless you have the compiled code on your hard drive and you can click an icon that will fire it up... I wouldn't put any faith in it.
Put in AH a P-51H will improve the numbers of players???
Put in AH a Ta152 will improve the numbers of players???
Put in AH a G-59 will improve the numbers of players???
NO!!!!
Most people currently subscribing to AH are asking for the Ta-152 or P51H or some other really late war plane. We are involved in the development of this game.. as is very obvious from the list of perk planes that you cited above.
Put in the game the possibility to do ground attak, ship attak, bombers attak, reworking the gun models and others little bugs put in the secondary to do list is the key to gain credibility and a constant financial support.
See above, most are already possible. Gun models are just fine. Perhaps you need to work on your gunnery? I got 3 kills with the 202's anemic guns and still had over half the ammo load left. Fuel forced me home.
AH is fun but not more than that at the moment.
It's supposed to be only fun. If it becomes anything else, I will leave.
-SW
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cant beleve what cynizm some people have,
and for any Big US mounth what saying Only 10$ i like to show my monthly bill to get recent ADSl and last month i play less and less simply losing interest on it
plz stop provocate the people black humor is not what i like last days
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People will come and people will go.
Most accounts rarely last more than a year or two at best.
I am here until I no longer enjoy.
Although the market test method appears mad I can guarantee everyone that this market test will result in a lower rate for everyone and those few people that are leaving likely wanted to leave anyway.
HTC would triple their monthly subscriptions at $19 and quadruple X2 subscription at $9
The bigger question for me is how will it change the community.
Yeager
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<<<If it's not competitive, what are you doing here?>>>
I'm not in. I'm a probable new customer now.
And my WW2 flight sim experience started whit "BoB their finest hour" and online whit Fighters OPS and AW3.
<<<Let me let you in on a little secret... this is EXACTLY how they built WB>>>
WB is dead, we dont need a revisited WB.
I personally was never attracted from WB.
<<< Are we playing the same game? I'm quite sure we are not. You can divebomb, grab a plane, go dive bomb a field. Bombs runs? You gotta be kidding me right? Fighters? uhmmm.... okay. Ground attack? <begins scratching head> Ahhh Torpedo bombing!! 1.05, or don't you read want the developers tell us? >>>
Yes divebomb whit a P-38 cc you hare right, but where is the Ju87 or another specific role plane????
Yes 1.05 we have a torpedo bomber I have to retire my comment about that argument. I only hope to see more specific AC in the future.
<<<<Scenarios? What universe are you in? There is currently the med league running and the Afrika corp running. We also have snapshots going on. All run by US. We have CMs that setup the arenas for us, and we do our own thing. HTC builds us planes and things to use, we put them to use.>>>
Oh yes Afrika, whit B26, Typhoon, very realistic. Where are the planes to perform real scenarios, or better where is the intention to introduce these planes???
<<<Let me let you in on a little secret.. Things almost never work when you do it the way they are doing it. How do you know it will work on your system? How does that other guy know it will work on his? Unless you have the compiled code on your hard drive and you can click an icon that will fire it up... I wouldn't put any faith in it.>>>
Well, I see only 2000 and + people that look at a program that offer determined things.
I have no comment about their succes or not in programming the game. Is a question of probable # of customer, nothing more than that.
<<<Most people currently subscribing to AH are asking for the Ta-152 or P51H or some other really late war plane. >>>
These people will remain to AH???
These people are the majority of the WW2 aerial simulation customers?????
<<<Gun models are just fine.>>>
F4UC lol
<<<Perhaps you need to work on your gunnery? I got 3 kills with the 202's anemic guns and still had over half the ammo load left.>>>
My gunnery skill is paragonable whit your gunnery skill, i get 3 kills + 2 manouver kills in one sorties whit the c202 (total 5), and 6 kills in one sorties whit the c205 whit only the MG mounted. Wo remember me know how i was fighting.
This is an opinion from a probable customer.
You hare an happy customer right?? Tell me why? What can i have here that no other games have?? Stop whit the realism argument we all know that realism is far far away from computers games. (1.04 show us that)
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Originally posted by VISCONTI:
I'm not in. I'm a probable new customer now.And my WW2 flight sim experience started whit "BoB their finest hour" and online whit Fighters OPS and AW3.
AW3 is AW DOS, with pretty graphics and it runs in windows. By the time you got to AW3, they had been working on it for over 6 years. AH has been out for a little over 1 year. Same with Fighter Ops.
WB is dead, we dont need a revisited WB.
I personally was never attracted from WB.
WB is dead because ICI left iEN. Some went to form WW2Ol, but the main players are here at AH. Where WB left off, AH will continue from.
Yes divebomb whit a P-38 cc you hare right, but where is the Ju87 or another specific role plane????
Reason: Ju87 is dead meat in the main arena. Ju88 is dive bomb specific, atleast that is livable. The main arena is there day to day, scenarios are there occassionally. Why built scenario planes when most people are here to play AH?
Oh yes Afrika, whit B26, Typhoon, very realistic. Where are the planes to perform real scenarios, or better where is the intention to introduce these planes???
If you don't see the intention to eventually introduce new planes, then apparently you are NOT living in this universe. We currently see an upcomming carrier fleet and F6F and TBF. TBF is dead meat in the MA, like the Ju87 would be. Why else would they produce the TBF other than for scenario use? The Ju88 is a more survivable torpedo bomber. Like I said, planes take a LOT of time to MAKE. You go ahead and get yourself 3DMax or 3DStudio. Make me a model of your most favorite plane with the detail they put into it. When you get that done, write yourself a flight model for it. Then gimme a call in 5 to 10 years when you finally complete it.
Well, I see only 2000 and + people that look at a program that offer determined things.
I have no comment about their succes or not in programming the game. Is a question of probable # of customer, nothing more than that.
You can only program so much a day. The lines of code you write are always changed or revised that day. On average a computer programmer writes between 5 and 20 lines of code a day. You could make a program say "Hello" colored in red centered on the screen in bold letters with that many lines. See where I'm going? It ain't easy.
These people will remain to AH???
These people are the majority of the WW2 aerial simulation customers?????
They are the majority of AH customers. That's all that matters. Unless you are paying, your opinion or what you want to see really does not matter. They will certainly remain with AH if they get to see their plane incorporated.
F4UC lol
ACM= Air Combat Manuevers. If you are letting an F4U hit you, you messed up somewhere. I can take F4Us head on all day.. I always jinx their shots then move in to kill them.
This is an opinion from a probable customer.
You hare an happy customer right?? Tell me why? What can i have here that no other games have?? Stop whit the realism argument we all know that realism is far far away from computers games. (1.04 show us that)
I never argued realism anywhere. However, it IS the most detailed sim I've played to date. Coming from a 7 year history of playing these thigns, my opinion of what's good and what isn't should show you something. AW is outdated. WB is outdated. FA and FAII.... who cares? WW2Ol and WB3. Well WW2Ol is yet unproven. When it's compiled I'll let you know. WB3 is no more than a pretty graphics engine overlayed the same old thing. When/if they implement a new flight model/damage model the iEN team's ability and recreating those things in detail is as-of-yet unproven.
Am I happy? You betcha. Am I happier than the guy paying 19.95? You betcha, cuz I can fly better than him.
Of course the point of you quitting is beyond me. Is it to get that fabled 19.95 offer? If it isn't, then you'll just be sitting around on your thumbs unless you decide to see the outside world. And if someone getting something for 10 dollars cheaper upsets you.. beware the human society. Amazon.com, every click you make the price gets jacked up on a product. Repeat buyer? Price gets jacked up more. Priceline.com.. Name your own price!! Oops grocery sales went up.. income went down. Doh! They forget they atleast need to break even to stay in business. Car dealership.. You ALWAYS finesse the dealer down in price. If you don't.. you just got screwed faster than a billy goat in texas.
Now, lets do this in a break down fashion...
DRUGS! Let's see how much money you can waste on drugs or Aces High>>>>
Marijuana aka dope aka weed aka ganja etc...
20$ will buy you a dub sack. How much is that? It's enough for 4 people to get completely stoned for about 8 hours.. maybe 12 if you can stay up long enough.
Acid aka LSD...
30$(29.95 rounded off) will get you 6 hits of acid. Depending on your dealer they can last anywhere between 4 to 14 hours per hit. You can share with your friends or you can hog it to yourself.
Ecstasy...
25$ for a 6-8hr pill. You feel happier than a potato when the sailors dock.
Opium...
25$ will get you a lot and you'll be heavily sedated for several hours. You can make it last as long or as little as you want, but it will last you no more than a week.
Heroin,cocaine,PCP,crack, and crank: I don't know their street prices but believe me, they aren't worth it.
And the kicker!!!
For 30 days of euphoric air combat, you pay 29.95$ doing what you like. And it don't fry your brain or lead to death!!
-SW
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And it don't fry your brain or lead to death!!
Thats Debatable. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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Very debatable Hang..... ;-)
Having done all of the above though.. I am the product of AH and aforementioned drugs.
Scary eh? :-)
-SW
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"WB is dead, we dont need a revisited WB.
I personally was never attracted from WB.
WB is dead because ICI left iEN. Some went to form WW2Ol, but the main players are here at AH. Where WB left off, AH will continue from."
Damn!!! Another self-proclaimed "expert" mistaking opinion for "fact". When are you AH fans going to stop posting such drivel as this???
WB's doesn't look "dead" from my perspective. Of course, that's just my opinion.
Cabby
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Originally posted by cabby:
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Damn!!! Another self-proclaimed "expert" mistaking opinion for "fact". When are you AH fans going to stop posting such drivel as this???
WB's doesn't look "dead" from my perspective. Of course, that's just my opinion.
Cabby
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And remember kids, don't do WarBirds!
-SW
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Cabby,
WBs2.76r? needs a serious facelift. Thats what WBs3 is all about!
Who cares about singular opinions anyway (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Yeager
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20$ for Marijuana ???? They hare thiefs belive me!!!
Anyway,
<<<Unless you are paying, your opinion or what you want to see really does not matter. >>>
I think that HTC try to expand his business. Then if they need to expand business they need to listen to the new customers.
They must know why their business attract no more players. The 10$ thing is an exemple.
The actual customers hare "sure" they usually think 2 or 3 time before quitting.
<<<They are the majority of AH customers.>>>
I really doubt. Anyway what think the others customers that HTC need and hare not here??
I leave AH cause of the completely absent intention to implement an early-war set, before the 10$ manouver. I dont need these planes tomorrow but I want know if that argument is on the 1st or 2nd or 3rd list.. no reply?? no money!!
The MA is like a reception where u can find all kind of people, u can be yourself or try to emulate the others. Then we have scenarios, a private room. You can live magical moments, more intense than in MA.
MA need a very limited # of aircraft for surviving. Scenarios need more and more efforts. They hare doing a good job on MA but i doubt that the majority of players need P-51H or Ta152 or F8F or P-47N to have more fun in AH. If this is the reality, please change the name of this game, is not a WW2 simulator is a 1945-1946 simulator.
When i was asking for an implementation of early war AC, only a little # of customer replied at my favor. Probably was too early.
Now we see more people that ask info on the implementation of an early war planeset.
Who know probably is too early again, but this is a signal that people need something different than make a step in 1946.
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Actually I gotta agree with Visconti on alot of what he says.
IMO the MA lacks purpose. The map currently running in the MA (beta2) boxes in the teams. I will compare to aw3 maps.. The current most popular map in aw3 is old eto, a map probably not much larger than beta2, without the mtn in the center, with longer front lines between teams. The beta map might be improved without the huge mountain in the center, and have each team posess bases close to the center.
The longer fronts help by not channeling all the enemy down the same path (as it is at present in MA) The bases close to the center permit any player to find multi team furballs at any time.
The longer front permits a player to up at anytime without having to join his team in defence, and reduces his flight time to enemy airspace.
The longer front also creates more options for attacking and defending. Currently if your team is being attacked by another, it is relatively impossible to counter attack. With the channeling of forces, any attack has to go through the enemy already hitting you, which reduces your chances immensely.
As far as the plane set is concerned... it likely will be pointless to bother with early AC in the current 1 arena setup. I am a fan of the earlier AC by far, and hope that in the future we might look forward to ERA arenas, Or at least PAC and Euro!!
Dunno if any of the above will make sense to others, but hey it does to me
Its the challenge of mastering these AC that has me here for the moment. I've been paying to play aw3 for 2 years, at the moment I can't see staying in AH that long unless some of the above issues are addressed.
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Yup.. ain't the US grand. We can suck down all the liver, kidney and destroying booze we want at roughly 10$ for a half gallon of 80proof vodka... but marijuana is illegal(damages lungs, yes. no brain damage, brain cell membranes slightly enlarge with heavy users-- but that goes away if you stop).
Anyways.. drugs are a whole nother thingie.
I think the reason for the late war set is because you rarely see them in other games. We are, however, getting aircraft that served in the war. Would you really want to fly a Spitfire MkI around in this arena? I'm sure they have some strategy to this, afterall this ain't their first run at this market niche. Pyro already stated that everyone has done the BoB plane set and mid-war planeset.. and indeed they have. So they're going for a late-war planeset to tide us over while they build the rest of the planes.
If it's the planeset you are after, WB is now 24.95$ and offers many planes.
I'm here for the continued support, quick development from 6 people(2 of which don't code the game mind you) and because ensuring AH's future means that we will see some of the most in depth scenarios in a year. I'll bet you that in one year you would of forgotten all about the "limited" planeset and will be merrily shooting planes down in your early plane scenarios.
-SW
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Damn!!! Another self-proclaimed "expert" mistaking opinion for "fact". When are you AH fans going to stop posting such drivel as this???
Cabby, they seem to be everywhere. What ya gonna do?
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<<<but marijuana is illegal(damages lungs...>>>
Not here and if u eat biscuits no lungs problems (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
<<<I'll bet you that in one year you would of forgotten all about the "limited" planeset and will be merrily shooting planes down in your early plane scenarios.>>>
I really hope that, but in one year we have more than 1 game to choice. Just give us a clear signal.
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You euros are wierdos!! marijuana biscuits?? sheesh!
BROWNIES are the way to go man!!!! :-)
Of course nothings like hitting the good ol' bong! ;-)
Yeah in a year we should have more choices. I hope so.. competition is good and means more and better things down the road.
Which is the way I look at it. Great now.. gets better a little later. Just take a lil' time.
-SW
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AKSeaWulfe wrote:
*development from 6 people(2 of which don't code the game mind you)*
Actually, that's backwards. There's only 2 coders here, HT and Ronni.
Yeager wrote:
*HTC would triple their monthly subscriptions at $19 and quadruple X2 subscription at $9*
Well that would make it an easy decision.
*The bigger question for me is how will it change the community.*
That's a double-edged sword in some ways. Change with growth is inevitable, and while you can lose a lot of the small town feeling, it does open up a lot of other possibilities. One of the challenges we face working with a smaller community of players is the communal approach we have to take with the main arena or even with the concept of a main arena. It would be nice to work with a larger group where different arena flavors can be viable and populated. That leads to more interest which leads to more growth which leads to more options. In that way it's certainly appealing and alleviates some problems.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
[This message has been edited by Pyro (edited 10-26-2000).]
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This argument is about as hopeless as arguing with a woman. Your not going to win anyway.
I remember once, in the heat of an argument with a girl. I called her a c---sucker. She beamed with pride, and decided I was trying to make up. How can you deal with such people?
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Visconti, to be an Italian player who claims to know so much about the historic Mediterannean theater, you seem to lack some really critical information.
The B-26 was an extremely common US bomber in that theater, and the units names we are using in Afrika Korps are actual units that flew the B-26 and participated in that campaign. Would you like me to provide you some photo's of them in that theater?
And no your correct, Typhoon did not serve in the Med during that period, but they did serve in the ETO during the exact same time, so they are period.
They're there to substitute for the Allied ground attack capability that we don't have. For instance the P-40, an early P-38, the Hurricane IIc, and many others.
It seems to me that you are constantly critical of what other players do for Scenario's and what they contribute to the community.
So why haven't you stepped forward and offered to do your own Historical Events? It obvious that your events will be quite superior to everything that has been done to date.
Its real easy to sit on the sidelines and continously nitpick everyone else, so step up and show us what you've got.
{This post represents my own opinons as an individual and my own only. They have nothing to do with any other CM or connection to HTC}
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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"They're there to substitute for the Allied ground attack capability that we don't have. For instance the P-40, an early P-38, the Hurricane IIc, and many others.
It seems to me that you are constantly critical of what other players do for Scenario's and what they contribute to the community."
VERM,
Dont you understand that he aint criticizing the scenarios, hes criticizing HTC for doing "perk planes" instead of filling out the early war plane set for scenarios etc.
Regards
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AH : Maniac
WB : -nr-1-
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You guys have perverted my beautiful flame thread!!!! I got up this morning and couldn't wait to rekindle my anger to those that closed their accounts over the pricing survey thingy. But instead I find myself wanting to fight for the legalization of marijuana!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) heheheh SW I think we went to the same "school" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) thank God I graduated!
I wish I had my freakin CPU here!!!!! I want to fly realy bad and I can't (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) So I have become a UBB lurker.
udie
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Maniac, I'm basically replying to a general stream of comments from Visconti about scenarios from over the past several weeks.
He can make any comment he wants about perk planes, but enough is enough on the Scenario issue.
I try not to take such things personally, and let them pass. But he has kept pounding on the issue over and over, so I felt it was time to respond.
All I'm saying is that if he thinks he can do a better job, step up and do it.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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I think the criticizm are directed the wrong way here.
Everyone should know that being an CM in AH is an very hard job (in WB´s to for that matter).
The CM´s got an to small plane set to play with, wich results in strange scenarios. Once the early war plane set gets filled out and when the CM´s gets some good CM tools to play with, then scenarios in AH will be excellent.
Regards.
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I realy don't see any diference in AH's early senario's than there were in WB's early senario's. How many times did I attack b25 formations over Europe in the Point Blank Senario and that was 2 years into WB's senario developement. We didn't have b24's or B26's so we substitued b25's, I still had fun shooting at them.
The CM group has been here since July, I think we've come a long way since then and are improving still with each event run. We're starting something new here and sometimes it may fall apart around us, then others will run smooth as silk. That's the nature of the beast and we have to live with it. Since 1.04 HTC has been working with us alot finding out what kind of tools we need and tailoring them to our needs. That blows my mind and is very cool of them to do.
This time next year I bet we have more planes than WB2 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) and 10 times as many terrains. We CM's should be old pro's by then and event's will run very smooth. We have some serious grognards on the CM staff so I know we'll be running historical events with the exact numbers of exact models of planes that flew in the actual battles. It will just take some time to get there.
the mission editor alone is sooooo powerful in this regard. It opens up many many possibilities that don't exist in WB or any other online flight sim. Stick with us we're getting better at this (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Udie
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Vermillion,
That was not a critic about your scenario.
I appreciate the work u put in that job.
About scenarios I have a mate working for these things is Busc. I give him all the help he need when he ask me, so in a certein manner i'm working for scenarios too.
Here my contribution i give you for Afrika
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/002670.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/002670.html)
Here a proposal on the early days of AH
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/002206.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum1/HTML/002206.html)
Thx to Maniac u get the right point.
Vermillion please explein me where i have done that:
<<<I'm basically replying to a general stream of comments from Visconti about scenarios from over the past several weeks.>>>
If u thake offence on what i have postet i have to say sorry, but i think i have never done an anty Vermillion campaign.
aaa i was missing that:
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arena/8245/stormo54/index.html (http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arena/8245/stormo54/index.html)
I have prepared that Homepage for a more in deep experience for the players of your scenarios.
[This message has been edited by VISCONTI (edited 10-27-2000).]