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Title: BBC - Greatest ever Briton
Post by: Furball on August 10, 2003, 07:10:54 AM: Just read about this in the paper, in the UK version winston churchill won, BBC world are apparently showing the series worldwide and in the world version Sir Isaac Newton is winning

Who would you vote for?

http://www.bbcworld.com/content/template_clickpage.asp?pageid=2376
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Post by: Toad on August 10, 2003, 08:04:07 AM: Sir Winston. The man and the perfect moment clearly met.
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Post by: qts on August 10, 2003, 08:07:51 AM: I'd vote for Wellington. Master strategist, master general, master statesman.
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Post by: Replicant on August 10, 2003, 08:13:27 AM: Nationally I voted for IK Brunel; ever since I studied his work at school I've been totally balled over.

But... I guess most of the world haven't really heard of him, therefore it's bound to be between Newton and Churchill. I'd vote for Newton as he was a local to me! :)
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Post by: Leslie on August 10, 2003, 08:14:27 AM: Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)
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Post by: majic on August 10, 2003, 09:12:49 AM: Mr Bean.
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Post by: vorticon on August 10, 2003, 09:40:41 AM: nelson...or churchill...
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Post by: Curval on August 10, 2003, 10:12:04 AM: Boy..they missed a bunch, and added certain ones that shouldn't even quailify.

Arthur..King of the Britons.
Boudecia (although she was Icenic and not technically a Briton)

There are a bunch more.

How does Diana warrent being on the list...or Lennon, for that matter.

I mean if Lannon's on the list shouldn't Beckham be there too?:rolleyes:
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Post by: rpm on August 10, 2003, 10:40:36 AM: Black Adder
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Post by: Udie on August 10, 2003, 11:16:33 AM: Wilt Chaimberlan!

Pieces of A in our time! :D
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Post by: bounder on August 10, 2003, 04:31:38 PM: Oliver Cromwell or Alexander Fleming,

but Isaac Newton is also a top choice, for being a giant upon whose shoulders all of us stand.
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Post by: Replicant on August 10, 2003, 05:13:30 PM: Quote
Originally posted by bounder
Oliver Cromwell or Alexander Fleming,

but Isaac Newton is also a top choice, for being a giant upon whose shoulders all of us stand.

I'd never vote for Cromwell, since it was mostly General Thomas Fairfax that did most of the work for the Roundheads and not Cromwell. Cromwell came to fore when Fairfax wouldn't sign the execution of Charles 1st, and incidently Cromwell eventually became what he originally despised, a kind of dictator.
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Post by: funkedup on August 10, 2003, 05:18:09 PM: James Bond
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Post by: mietla on August 10, 2003, 05:34:54 PM: Geez, Diana and Lennon vs. Newton, Churchill or Shakespeare?

You are surely jesting my friends!??

Britts are officially as screwed up and us Yanks.
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Post by: Frogm4n on August 10, 2003, 05:41:41 PM: diana is on that list? wtf? her greatest sacrifice was sleeping with prince charles. jeez you brits need to get over her. take more pride in elizibeth hurley.
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Post by: Pei on August 10, 2003, 06:08:58 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Frogm4n
diana is on that list? wtf? her greatest sacrifice was sleeping with prince charles. jeez you brits need to get over her. take more pride in elizibeth hurley.

I couldn't agree more.
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Post by: Animal on August 10, 2003, 06:17:21 PM: Cornwallace
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Post by: Furball on August 10, 2003, 06:25:10 PM: i think most brits agree that diana should not be on that list.
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Post by: funkedup on August 10, 2003, 06:33:04 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Animal
Cornwallace

Sir Cornholio
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Post by: Holden McGroin on August 10, 2003, 06:54:47 PM: My favourite (British spelling) Briton is (was) John Harrison, the clockmaker.

Harrison built the first useful chronometer for solving the problem of longitude. In doing so, a carpenters son from Lincolnshire proved Newton to be a pompous prettythang.
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Post by: ra on August 10, 2003, 06:59:06 PM: Benny Hill.
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Post by: mietla on August 10, 2003, 07:18:51 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
My favourite (British spelling) Briton is (was) John Harrison, the clockmaker.

Harrison built the first useful chronometer for solving the problem of longitude. In doing so, a carpenters son from Lincolnshire proved Newton to be a pompous prettythang.

Now you are talking. He has built at least four iterations. If I remember correctly, the fourth one was it.

Diana and Lennon.. yeah, right...

BTW, Newton was no doubt pompous, but he wasn't prettythang be no means. He actually gave credit to the "giants" before him.

Sure, he had a couple of feuds (Hooke and Leibnitz come to mind), but hey, "it ain't bragging if you can do it". Corpuscular theory of light seems to support this.
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Post by: Curval on August 10, 2003, 07:28:44 PM: Cromwell was a religious nutter in my opinion. Sure glad I didn't live in England when his bunch ruled.
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Post by: Holden McGroin on August 10, 2003, 07:35:55 PM: While I (of course) admire Newton's intellect, he did not seem to have an open mind once his reputation was established. It seems he left science behind in his later years, and let politics rule.

At least that is what seemed to be the case in the longitude problem, and the Leibnitz feud seems to back this up. Looks like reputation and credit became more important than moving the wagon on down the road, no matter who's pulling.
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Post by: Thrawn on August 10, 2003, 11:29:19 PM: Elizabeth I :eek:

"When she ascended the throne in 1558, England was an impoverished country torn apart by religious squabbles. When she died at Richmond Palace on the 24th March 1603, England was one of the most powerful and prosperous countries in the world."

Plus, defeating the Spanish Armada.

I can't believe no one has mentioned her.

http://www.elizabethi.org/
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Post by: Frogm4n on August 11, 2003, 12:21:13 AM: When it comes to england i think they have had to many great people in their past to proclaim one over the other. Just go to Westminster abby and see the people entombed in that place.

well i guess benny hill shines the brightest
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Post by: funkedup on August 11, 2003, 01:48:04 AM: Ozzy
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Post by: eskimo2 on August 11, 2003, 01:52:06 AM: Churhill
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Post by: bigsky on August 11, 2003, 02:00:46 AM: its got to be lord nelson, i like chuchill but but nelson did his own speaches. if he did any. nelson was a real leader in the sence that direct orders are just general guidlines to follow. stupidity is something that should be ignored. i hope mr. rumsfeld is reading this.
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Post by: Dowding on August 11, 2003, 03:28:46 AM: I can't come up with a single choice. These rate highly:

Elizabeth I
Lord Nelson
Sir Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington
Sir Winston Churchill
Isambard Kingdom Brunel

Diana is just a symptom of the Diana-hysteria which seems to afflict mainly British women. Lennon wrote some good music but hardly had the impact the others had.
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Post by: CyranoAH on August 11, 2003, 03:32:48 AM: Newton all the way
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Post by: DiabloTX on August 11, 2003, 05:24:28 AM: You guys are all wrong. Eric Clapton all the way.
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Post by: -dead- on August 11, 2003, 06:10:36 AM: Darwin all the way - none of the others has managed to upset Hortlund as much. ;)
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Post by: SLO on August 11, 2003, 10:32:41 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
My favourite (British spelling) Briton is (was) John Harrison, the clockmaker.

Harrison built the first useful chronometer for solving the problem of longitude. In doing so, a carpenters son from Lincolnshire proved Newton to be a pompous prettythang.

truly an amazing character......
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Post by: midnight Target on August 11, 2003, 10:36:39 AM: Bob Hope

duh!
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Post by: Eagler on August 11, 2003, 10:42:09 AM: Dr. Jekyll
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Post by: mietla on August 11, 2003, 10:55:12 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Eagler
Dr. Jekyll

Mr Hyde
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Post by: DiabloTX on August 11, 2003, 11:10:34 AM: I retract my earlier post. I go with this guy:

(http://www1.mipa-award.de/lifetime.jpg)

If I have to tell you who it is, then you wouldn't understand. Cheers mate!!
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Post by: Charon on August 11, 2003, 11:18:18 AM: Nelson, was an important figure to British history, Newton to science, Shakespear to the arts, but Winston Churchill to the world. Without his determination Britain might (likely might) have agreed to a negoiated peace with Hitler and the world as we know it would have been fouled to this day.

Charon
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Post by: Hortlund on August 11, 2003, 11:37:13 AM: "greatest Briton ever" ..geez

Why anyone outside GB would care is beyond me...
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Post by: Curval on August 11, 2003, 11:44:30 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Hortlund
"greatest Briton ever" ..geez

Why anyone outside GB would care is beyond me...

LOL....well said. :)
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Post by: Dowding on August 11, 2003, 12:31:46 PM: Because Greatest ever Swede would be a much shorter list, probably involving crappy jokes about vegetables.
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Post by: Holden McGroin on August 11, 2003, 12:47:05 PM: Wi n0t trei a h0liday in Sweden thi yer?

See the l0veli lakes

The W0nderful teleph0ne system

And mani interesting furry animals

Including the majestic m00se

A M00se once bit my sister ...
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Post by: Hortlund on August 11, 2003, 01:11:49 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
Because Greatest ever Swede would be a much shorter list, probably involving crappy jokes about vegetables.

FU you know nothing about our history.
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Post by: Dowding on August 11, 2003, 01:23:12 PM: Admittedly I don't. I'm sure there are plenty of great Swedish figures in history...
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Post by: Furball on August 11, 2003, 01:25:31 PM: yeah! like.... ummmm.....

ulrika johnsson!
Sven goran eriksson!
Freddie Ljungberg
err....
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Post by: Eagler on August 11, 2003, 01:40:22 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
Admittedly I don't. I'm sure there are plenty of great Swedish figures in history...

Seka :)
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Post by: Nashwan on August 11, 2003, 03:17:56 PM: .
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Post by: Curval on August 11, 2003, 03:47:54 PM: Dowding and Hazed...how come you guys are jumping on Hortlund? It must be some sort of long standing animosity or something.

The way I see it Hortlund was making that comment based on the US guys here claiming that if anything happens in the US it is none of anyone's business outside that country and non-Americans opinions don't matter.

Dowding, you for one have had this happen numerous times when you have made comments in other threads.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought Hortlund's comment was a "tongue in cheek" one aimed at Americans.

:confused: :confused:
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Post by: Dowding on August 12, 2003, 02:38:50 AM: My post was not meant to be an attack - just a little tongue in cheek jibe. My second post was meant to be an invitation for Hortlund to enlighten me about Swedish history - I genuinely don't anything about it.

Hope that clears it up. ;)
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