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Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Creamo on August 10, 2003, 08:10:33 AM
With Uzi's (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/05/national/main517526.shtml)


"Police said breath tests revealed the two pilots had blood-alcohol levels above 0.08 percent."

A spokesman for Cloyd's family, Steve Hicks said, "We're saddened by the occurrences and the allegations made against them."

LOL!

They should have shot it out with the coppers, the allegations were so sad.

Listen up Americans. Homeland Security = Insanity.
Title: Re: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Martlet on August 10, 2003, 09:56:03 AM
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Originally posted by Creamo
With Uzi's (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/05/national/main517526.shtml)


"Police said breath tests revealed the two pilots had blood-alcohol levels above 0.08 percent."

A spokesman for Cloyd's family, Steve Hicks said, "We're saddened by the occurrences and the allegations made against them."

LOL!

They should have shot it out with the coppers, the allegations were so sad.

Listen up Americans. Homeland Security = Insanity.


What has this got to do with Homeland Security?
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: lazs2 on August 10, 2003, 09:57:15 AM
probly there should be a law that says pilots can't fly drunk.   At least we don't have to worry about drunk cops or soldiers or fbi, batf etc. going around with guns.

the airports are so depressing and inconvienient that I will do anything rather than fly these days.
lazs
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: vorticon on August 10, 2003, 10:08:43 AM
trains a good...
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: lazs2 on August 10, 2003, 10:18:53 AM
trains are fine and I will take em before I fly but mostly drive.   no good over water routes yert tho.
lazs
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Creamo on August 10, 2003, 10:22:09 AM
id take atrain if they had bar cars

cremo
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Holden McGroin on August 10, 2003, 02:26:31 PM
There was an Amtrak accident a few years ago on the northeast corridor.  Engineer was drunk.

There was a oil tanker, exxon valdez, where the captain was drunk.

Happy travelling....
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: john9001 on August 10, 2003, 03:08:15 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin

There was a oil tanker, exxon valdez, where the captain was drunk.


the captain was in his cabin, a junior officer was in command when the ship went aground.
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: udet on August 10, 2003, 04:28:54 PM
well, if being drunk makes them more aggressive and they shoot the terrorists full of holes, I say arm them.
anyways, jets nowdays fly themselves, no need for pilots to be sober:D
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Holden McGroin on August 10, 2003, 05:43:58 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
the captain was in his cabin, a junior officer was in command when the ship went aground.


He was in his cabin sleeping one off.  He is still in charge.
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Martlet on August 10, 2003, 06:51:01 PM
Hijack:

On a side note, did anyone see on the news about the passengers that taped their pilot sleeping?
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Maverick on August 10, 2003, 09:28:41 PM
FAA regs prohibited flying with alcohol in their systems LONG before 9/11 was even thought of. Of course that little bit of truth will likely spoil the mindless rant that started this thread. oh well. :rolleyes:
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Creamo on August 10, 2003, 10:25:24 PM
No sh*t Sherlock? I bet you were a detective, not a traffic cop.

Wait. Actually they aren’t prohibited from flying with alcohol in their systems, it’s how much, but I’m not going to explain the truth to you in detail.

Don’t worry, I don’t think you spoiled anything other than having to explain the post to you. The homeland overreaction act arming pilots is easy to goof on when pilots keep making the news for trying to fly drunk. It has nothing to do with regs by the FAA telling them they can’t fly plastered pre- or post-9/11, geez. It's them ignoring them, drinking, and soon they will be armed.  Dry humor but whoopee how could you miss it so completely?

Martlet- The Homeland Security Act of 2002 is what address deputizing pilots and giving them guns, that’s what.
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Golfer on August 11, 2003, 02:56:09 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
Hijack:

On a side note, did anyone see on the news about the passengers that taped their pilot sleeping?


Did they somehow miss the ATP rated first officer in the right seat staring out the window while the 3 autopilots dutifully steered their airplane on a GPS-Direct route to some far off fix?
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Martlet on August 11, 2003, 10:00:48 PM
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Originally posted by Golfer
Did they somehow miss the ATP rated first officer in the right seat staring out the window while the 3 autopilots dutifully steered their airplane on a GPS-Direct route to some far off fix?


Nope, they caught that, too.  It didn't keep the guy from losing his job and his license, though.
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Golfer on August 11, 2003, 10:25:03 PM
give me a break...what sort of flight was it?  was it a 300 mile RJ hop?  New York to LA in a 767?  Chicago to Tokyo in a 777?  And why was a passenger allowed with a video camera on the flight deck?
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Martlet on August 11, 2003, 10:55:15 PM
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Originally posted by Golfer
give me a break...what sort of flight was it?  was it a 300 mile RJ hop?  New York to LA in a 767?  Chicago to Tokyo in a 777?  And why was a passenger allowed with a video camera on the flight deck?


It was a small plane from Bahamas to Ft Lauderdale.

An interview with the person who taped it can be found here:

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0307/18/ltm.10.html
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Golfer on August 11, 2003, 11:00:09 PM
17 passengers onboard isnt too small.

Still an ATP rated pilot onboard, but a short hop like that...oy.  Somtimes i wonder...then there are other times i just wonder.
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Martlet on August 11, 2003, 11:02:34 PM
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Originally posted by Golfer
17 passengers onboard isnt too small.

Still an ATP rated pilot onboard, but a short hop like that...oy.  Somtimes i wonder...then there are other times i just wonder.


I don't know squat about flying or the laws that go with it.  I DO know that I wouldn't want my pilot sleeping, though, regardless of the regulations.
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Golfer on August 11, 2003, 11:15:07 PM
my apologies for a misunderstanding...but i was being critical of the pilot.  an hour hop is no excuse nor any time for a quick catnap.
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Martlet on August 12, 2003, 01:02:59 AM
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Originally posted by Golfer
my apologies for a misunderstanding...but i was being critical of the pilot.  an hour hop is no excuse nor any time for a quick catnap.


No apology necessary.  

Like I said, I don't know anything about flying.  I assume they have 2 pilots onboard for a reason, and the reason isn't so one can sleep.

I've flown quite a bit, too, on many size planes.  On an hour long flight, it seems much of that time is spent actually "flying" the plane (ie: climbing, then getting ready to land), and not just traveling to your destination.
Title: Arm the Drunk Pilots
Post by: Arlo on August 12, 2003, 01:18:56 AM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
He was in his cabin sleeping one off.  He is still in charge.


Well ... me and the family were thinking of vacationing on an oil tanker next summer ... but after your post we may reconsider. ;)