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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: najdorf on August 14, 2003, 02:10:58 PM
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I have noticed several threads on whether or not to shoot a chute, but none on the actual techniques involved.
In my experience, I find that it is bad form to open up on the chute from long range, more than D300. It is best to aim at the feet first and let the chute gently fall into your line of fire until you get that delightful "POP."
I think it's important to get close so the chutist has no trouble seeing who it is that is shooting him.
The next thing you want to do is watch the channel 1 text buffer for the indignant rant that follows. Now, it's important to immediately respond on channel 1 that it was a mistake, you didn't mean it. After the victim has calmed down, immediately ridicule him and state openly and to all that you would gladly do it again. That usually makes them mad enough to come onto the BBS and post about it giving you another opportunity to further inflame your victim.
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Ok, here's my opinion:
Frankly, I would love to have people shoot me when I'm slowly falling towards earth (which is several thousand feet below me) when exit in flight is off. I mean, why would you want to wait all that time? Very often I will see players BEGGING to be shot because they can't stand the dreariness of it.
And if exit in flight is turned off, then being shot down while in a parachute just isn't a problem, is it?
And in the occasion of somebody getting mad at you for it, there is no call for you, or anybody, to be aggressive about it. Don't say something like "Haha! I'd do it again anytime!" Just say "Sorry about that." That is almost always enough. And in the rare occasions it isn't, just shoot them down to make them shut up :cool:.
-Ace
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lol najdorf...
ZDS...you can always Alt-F4 out and then jump back into the game if there is no-one handy around to shoot your chute.
;)
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I dont understand why people bail. There is only 1 acceptable time to bail and thats when your plane is falling like a leaf. Then you can bail out and not open your chute. You'll reach the ground alot faster.
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In my opinion, I enjoyed the days back in Air Warrior when it was considered very poor form to kill a guy in a chute. For me it's part of the simulation to try and survive the mission, even when my plane is going down in flames, as is often the case. It was nice to know, even in virtual air, pilots still maintained a chivalrous ethic. As I'm often shot in my chute nowadays, it still ticks me off, but more than that it makes me wonder what happened to those outstanding pilots I shared the skies with years ago, and I can't help but wonder about the underlying causes for it's acceptance now. So shoot me when I'm hanging from my chute if it makes you feel better. I wont say anything to you about it. But I can guarantee that though I may be the last one who subscribes to the honor code of skies past, you will never have to fear the same from me.
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Read the opening of the thread, no one is asking your opinion wether or not it's a good idea to shoot a chute, this is a thread about the proper way to shoot a chute.
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I've never tried shooting the canopy of the chute. Always figured it wouldn't do anything but poke useless little holes. Anyone ever tried something larger, say 30mm?
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a waste of ammo and altitude, go kill a plane.
44MAG
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Most times I pop chute guys when they linger on the ground too long, especially during a potential base capture or in base defense.
Other times (rarely) I do it coz I'm in the mood to shoot any and anything, too bad killshooter is on in MA. :D
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naj, methinks you've been hanging around Arlo too much.
;)
imho, there's no correct way to shoot a pilot hanging in his chute, but then i generally fly planes without a lot of ammo to waste on such foolishness.
A bailed pilot is no threat (the only way a chute is going to get a kill on you is if you're stupid enough to become a lawndart trying to kill him) so it would seem to be pointless in the context of the game.
however, i understand your post to be a wry commentary on the catterwalling chute-shooting is known to elicit.
So ... whatever floats your boat.
Splash1
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Originally posted by SpookII
In my opinion, I enjoyed the days back in Air Warrior when it was considered very poor form to kill a guy in a chute.
I don't know what AW you flew in but the AW I flew in for 8+ years, chute shooting was just as common in there as it is in AH and wasn't frowned upon. Except by those 'I'm a knight in the sky!" types with a false sense of chivalry.
ack-ack
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Shoot the man not the canopy (if you realy have to) and you get a nice pop as they go. Shooting the canopy itself doesn't seem to do much. I don't waste my ammo.
Come and shoot my chute anytime - I get down quicker :)
I bail when I'm falling like a leaf with the stab gone, I can bail, and open the chute very near the ground and still beat the plane down. I also bail in a lead buff if it becomes uncontrollable and hop to the next drone quick before they pop. If someone shoots me -no problem.
The only valid reason for shooting chutes (other than pissing folk off) is when they are hanging near a base and the icon is distracting folk from picking out valid targets, and is a nuisance. Otherwise it's a waste of good ammo.
AW had a command line "/iwanttodie" for those unfortunate souls who bailed very high and left hanging who wanted to get out of the chute. It also had the benefit of a "skydiving setting" in the host where you could control the little man (before opening the chute) steering the x and y axis with the joystick and could travel considerable distances in skydive mode, enough sometimes to avoid the "you have been captured" by skydiving towards and landing in your your own territory providing you were high enough. I miss that little wrinkle. :)
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was thinking about this today,
G-S's ie gunners, dont you get another kill if you shoot them?
and do they have to be still showing G-S or do you still get a kill if you pop thier chute ?
just wondering :)
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chute shooters=poodles who wait for a big dogs scrap.
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bailers = scraps the big dog couldn't fully digest and passed.
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Honestly,
Shooting chutes is great target practice....theres a smaller hit bubble, and even though it is a slow moving target, there is many a great joy in hearing a knit or rook pop from all the excess gas that has been relieved from a few bullet holes. BTW - What are they feeding you guys in the knit/rook camp? Stay away from it whatever it is.....
Anyway, My favorite way to pop a de-planed guy is to get them in free fall.... I find this more challenging than waiting for them to pull the cord. Plus you dont have to blow all your alt :)
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I started shooting chutes after all my chutes were shot, when i made the decision, i deleted my bail command. I shoot every chute I can, since yak MGs are useful for little else.
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Originally posted by SpookII
In my opinion, I enjoyed the days back in Air Warrior when it was considered very poor form to kill a guy in a chute.
Your type made chute shooting very rewarding in AW.
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Originally posted by SpookII
In my opinion, I enjoyed the days back in Air Warrior when it was considered very poor form to kill a guy in a chute.
yeah?, that must have either been before 1990, or in the kids RR arenas.
I remember bailers earnings a special derisive award (silk panties) for their cowardice
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Originally posted by Boozer
I remember bailers earnings a special derisive award (silk panties) for their cowardice
Yup.
- oldman
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My only regret about killing chutes is that chute deaths aren't violent enough. I'd like to saw the enemy pilot in half with my machine guns and see his lower half fall away while his upper half screams with the last gasps of pseudo-life just before he splatters against my canopy glass in a dazzling display of blood, guts, eyeballs, and teeth.
Maybe I should post this in the AH2 forum as a request.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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I WILL NOT SHOOT A BAILED PILOT WHO HAS OPEN A CHUTE
DAM COWARDICE TO THOUGHS WHO DO
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Originally posted by Isatheprophet
I WILL NOT SHOOT A BAILED PILOT WHO HAS OPEN A CHUTE
DAM COWARDICE TO THOUGHS WHO DO
You sound like this guy named Merlin01 in the MA today :). Calling people cowards and skill-less dweebs for killing his goons. :D
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
My only regret about killing chutes is that chute deaths aren't violent enough. I'd like to saw the enemy pilot in half with my machine guns and see his lower half fall away while his upper half screams with the last gasps of pseudo-life just before he splatters against my canopy glass in a dazzling display of blood, guts, eyeballs, and teeth.
Maybe I should post this in the AH2 forum as a request.
-- Todd/Leviathn
I'd like to be able to chop them up with my propellors.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Isatheprophet
I WILL NOT SHOOT A BAILED PILOT WHO HAS OPEN A CHUTE
DAM COWARDICE TO THOUGHS WHO DO
If chutes were not meant to be shot then they wouldn't blow up like they do. And as for the cowardice thing, did you know that parachutes weren't issued to pilots in World War I because bailing out was considered a sign of cowardice?
ack-ack
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Although I do not condone chute shooting, nor do I recommend it,
it was an action that happened in real life; especially in the Pacific Theatre of Operations in WWII. And, it is not an action that one can honestly accuse another side of doing with remorse. Both Axis and Allied, ETO anfd PTO, shot chutes with the purpose of killing the pilots in those chutes so that they might not have to face those same pilots again in combat.
On the other hand, in this WWII Air Combat Simulation where one can re-plane, re-GV, re-bomber, re-boat an extraordinary amount of times, who really needs to shoot chutes except those who have very low self esteem, or are very immature?
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Dear Sigmund Patches:
I'm so glad you've shed the light on why we shoot chutes. It was about to become a real problem. Just shooting helpless chutes didn't do it for me anymore so I started shooting stray cats. Now that the appeal of that has worn off, I was getting ready to shoot some homeless people.
But now I realize that I like taking out my anger on the helpless because I have low self esteem.
Perhaps the trouble began when my mother didn't breast feed me. I saw all the other kids getting plenty of nipple and I just knew there had to be something wrong with me cause I couldn't suck mamas boobs.
Well thanx to this enlightening post, I can get rid of my rubber pants, put away my blowup goat and throw out my lifesize neud poster of mamma I put up over my bed.
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what I'd really like to try is to shoot a bailed pilot while he's free falling. it's a real challange to try kill those who freefall and open the chute right at the last second.
anyone managed to kill a sky-diver?
Bozon
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Originally posted by bozon
what I'd really like to try is to shoot a bailed pilot while he's free falling. it's a real challange to try kill those who freefall and open the chute right at the last second.
anyone managed to kill a sky-diver?
Bozon
A couple of times when the other pilot's zoom climbing and I blow their plane up and he's ejected, but the pilot momentum keeps him from falling (wonderful to get two almost simultaneous explosions).
I've not gotten a pure free floater while they've actually been falling at the speed of simulated gravity. Guess I'll have to work on it. ;)
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I particulary like to hear them screaming as they fall toward the virtual earth.
Just a thought....Chuck Yeagar never met a chute he didnt shoot. :)
Who was it that mentioned "hit bubble".
If I'm not mistaken there AINT ONE in AH.
Ren
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I usally fly bombers and I've shot a chute once (with my tail gun) and that was in spite because if he hadn't been shot down by a friendly P-38 then I would have been on the flaming road to death instead along with 14,000 lbs of 100% Rook made vengence. Anyway he plumeted to his doom, I dropped my payload and ruined someones day:)
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LOL, in answer to the original question of the best way to shoot a chute IMHO the best way is to leave him hanging. :)
It wastes gas, ammo and gets him back up flying quicker. Why would you wanna do that? Especially when he's already shot?
Ren