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Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Frogm4n on August 16, 2003, 11:28:44 PM

poor Vick, broke a bone. Out 6-8 weeks.

And i was predicting he wouldnt be out with an injury untill after his first game against the bucs this year. I hope im not the only one who is tired of hearing how great this guy is even though he hasnt done a damn thing except get beat down by top 10 defence's.

That'll teach EA for putting mike vick on the cover of madden 2004, ignoreing the best team in the nfl. (the buccaneers of course)

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: jamusta on August 16, 2003, 11:43:55 PM

The hype is well deserved. If he stays away from getting to many injuries he will get alot better as time passes. Hes extremely fast and has a cannon for an arm. When his reads get better he will be close to a Bret Farve with wheels. I hate the falcons tho.

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Lance on August 17, 2003, 12:21:02 AM

Heh, I don't believe I have ever heard anyone whine about players from their prefered team not making a video game box before.  You go, girl!

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Sandman on August 17, 2003, 12:26:55 AM

Vick is good but he's not ready for the most overrated list just yet...

Gale Sayers
Lynn Swann
Deion Sanders

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Furball on August 17, 2003, 05:11:36 AM

i had to think twice before clicking on this thread - because i was worried what i might see from the title.......

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Sixpence on August 17, 2003, 07:30:19 AM

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Vick is good but he's not ready for the most overrated list just yet...

Can you say...Bosworth?

BTW, I have peerless price on a couple of fantasy teams, and I am worried. But I heard he is being replaced by a guy named "sling" johnson? Maybe i'll get more production out of price cause the QB isn't going to run with the ball?

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Creamo on August 17, 2003, 07:51:44 AM

Its a loss for NFL fans. Any Falcons game would be worth watching with Vick no matter who they play. At least he should be back for their MNF game.

6 weeks isn't that long, but man, what a bummer.

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: midnight Target on August 17, 2003, 08:24:28 AM

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Vick is good but he's not ready for the most overrated list just yet...

Gale Sayers
Lynn Swann
Deion Sanders

Now THAT is bait.

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Creamo on August 17, 2003, 09:18:46 AM

Agreed.

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Pfunk on August 17, 2003, 10:47:04 AM

This and other injuries is why there is no need for "Preseason" football.

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Sandman on August 17, 2003, 11:22:43 AM

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Now THAT is bait.

Here's some more...

Gale Sayers is not in the all-time top 50 in any major category.

Lynn Swann isn't either.

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Pollock on August 17, 2003, 11:55:10 AM

I blame astro turf.  Not sure if it was related to his injury but so many have been caused by it.  I am a Giant fan at heart but get to watch Vick regurlarly I predict, if he survives that Vick will be one of the best quarterbacks ever.

Right now besides Shockey he is the biggest target for defense.

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Creamo on August 17, 2003, 11:59:24 AM

Come on, Deion was the most explosive player the league has ever seen.

I hated him in a Cowboy uniform, but to discount him is the worst case of understanding the NFL I have ever seen posted. He was a Monster. Great for the league.

I actually like him as a broadcaster, his suits are too much and he promotes himself as fast as he carried the ball.

Was he Chuck Cecil and as brutalizing to the receivers? Nope. But who could match Chuck anyway.

Deion isn’t overrated, just hated.

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: majic on August 17, 2003, 01:42:21 PM

As a defensive player, Deion was one dimensional.  He was one of the best ever at cover but couldn't tackle worth a crap.  I saw Tom Waddle juke him and outrun him to the endzone.  he wasn't that good a baseball player either.  For 2 sport stars give me Bo anyday.


Hmm, can't imagine why Gale Sayers isn't in the top 50 in any category.  Ohh, wait, perhaps it was the devastating knee injury that shortened his career to just a few years.  Maybe that was it.  (good bait.)


Had some guy tell me last night that the Bradshaw to Swann connection was the best ever QB WR pair ever.  I had a good chuckle with that.

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: rpm on August 17, 2003, 03:21:01 PM

There is a reason all those "shuck & jive" running College QB's don't make it long in the NFL. Defense.

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Dune on August 17, 2003, 06:53:44 PM

Deon's next tackle will be his first.  However, he made pass offenses one-sided.  Offenses would change everything they did to keep from passing the ball to his side of the field.  He was also a threat to return every punt he caught to the endzone.

And I don't think we'll ever know if Swan was overrated.  Think of the offense he played on.  There was only one ball and it had to be spread around for Swann, Stalworth, Blier and Harris.  The Steelers were a running team with a fantastic possession receiver (Stalworth).  I bet Swann could've carried a team's passing game if he'd had to.

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Raubvogel on August 17, 2003, 07:50:42 PM

Heath Shuler

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: rc51 on August 17, 2003, 08:59:20 PM

LOL Take the IQs of all the Pro football players and add them up.
And you might have the IQ of you're family pet.
:D

In other words they aint worth near as much as they pay the little whiny prettythang cry babies.

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Ripsnort on August 18, 2003, 07:47:47 AM

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Originally posted by Sixpence
Can you say...Bosworth?
 

Or Rick Mirer.  Hey, if you want top draft choices that wash out and  become bench warmers in the NFL, Seattle is IT>>>

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: myelo on August 18, 2003, 08:40:54 AM

Ryan Leaf

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Eagler on August 18, 2003, 08:46:35 AM

Vick is cryin all the way to the bank

now if he lost his salary as you or I would if we could not perform our job, it'd be a big deal - sounds like a vacation to me

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Mini D on August 18, 2003, 09:15:11 AM

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Originally posted by rc51
LOL Take the IQs of all the Pro football players and add them up.
And you might have the IQ of you're family pet.
:D

In other words they aint worth near as much as they pay the little whiny prettythang cry babies.

Trivia: The lowest average IQs in sports - Golfers.  The highest average IQs in sports - Bowlers.

Vick the most over-rated in the NFL?  Nah.  And I don't think the Falcons think so either.  He's a great QB and he will definately be missed.... but only for 6 weeks.  Its a good thing it was only 1 bone that broke.

And... the most overated player ever: Todd Marinovich.  Nothing else even comes close.

MiniD

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Mini D on August 18, 2003, 09:15:50 AM

Well.... maybe Brian Bosworth.

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Ripsnort on August 18, 2003, 09:23:15 AM

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Originally posted by Mini D
Trivia: The lowest average IQs in sports - Golfers.  The highest average IQs in sports - Bowlers.



MiniD

Source?  I'd like to use this for another forum. :)

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Eagler on August 18, 2003, 10:11:11 AM

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Originally posted by Mini D
Trivia: The lowest average IQs in sports - Golfers.  The highest average IQs in sports - Bowlers.....  Nothing else even comes close.

MiniD

not at the golf courses and bowling alleys around here

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Mini D on August 18, 2003, 10:38:46 AM

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Originally posted by Eagler
not at the golf courses and bowling alleys around here

You bet.  Another bit of trivia:  All golfers think they have the highest average IQ in the sporting world.

MiniD

Title: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: Mini D on August 18, 2003, 10:47:13 AM

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Source?  I'd like to use this for another forum. :)

Don't have a source... I've heard it on the radio a few times and I've seen it referenced in articles like this (http://lse.lps.org/publications99/issue4/sports4.pdf) a few times... but haven't seen the actual study.

BTW... that article is about a high school that tried to see if they could duplicate the results with a very simple comparison... it's not how the original data was collected.

MiniD

Title: Re: Most overrated player in the NFL goes down
Post by: anonymous on November 10, 2003, 04:26:50 PM

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
poor Vick, broke a bone. Out 6-8 weeks.

And i was predicting he wouldnt be out with an injury untill after his first game against the bucs this year. I hope im not the only one who is tired of hearing how great this guy is even though he hasnt done a damn thing except get beat down by top 10 defence's.

That'll teach EA for putting mike vick on the cover of madden 2004, ignoreing the best team in the nfl. (the buccaneers of course)

i guess they losing games to keep nfl interesting. bucs can claim to have won four times as many games as falcons tho. be proud.