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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Sloppyjo on August 18, 2003, 12:47:49 AM
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Hello everyone
I'm SloppyJo, Im sure some of you have shot me down in the last couple days.
Anyway being newb and trying to learn all there is to about this game has brought me to this message board, and while there is a whole lot of great information being shared on this board. I don't know what it all means or how to apply it simply beacause i dont know what all the short hand stands for.
Could someone please post some definitions here so I know what the heck i'm reading about.
Before I get flamed to heck and back I have checked this board multiple times for this already.
Your help is appreiciated.
Oh yeah any squads out there want to take on a newb pilot/cannon fodder
Thanks
SloppyJo
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vulching = act of shooting planes while they are defenslessly taking off
drunks = troops / paratroops
ias = indicated airspeed
tas = true airspeed (how fast the ground is actully moving under you, shows as a red thing on spedometer)
porked = in bad shape
eggs = bombs
hispano = a british used 20mm
cv = carrier vessel
gv = ground vehicle
goon = c47
vh = vehicle hangar
fh = fighter hangar
bh = bomber hangar, rarely hear that though since fighter hangars are more saught after to distroy
check 6 = someones on you
squelch = act of ignoreing someone, or a channel "/.squech "
ack = anti aircraft artillery
dweeb = me
luftwobbles = a strange breed
sheep = good times
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cant think of any more at the moment, welcometo ah.
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Hi SloppyJo - you can get a very good list of abbreviations here (http://www.netaces.org/ahradio/abbrev.html#title) - in fact lots of excellent information on the whole Netaces.org (http://www.netaces.org/) site. Welcome to Aces High. :)
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thanks guys. it is appreciated
sloppyjp
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luftwobbles = a strange breed
im a strange breed just becuase i only fly LW. btw if you HO someone aim for the engine works evertime :D you pass them look at them see they smoking you know they dead:cool:
skull12
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Sloppy Jo,
If you are interested in flying in a squad, VF-17 is currently recruiting. Your skill level is unimportant and we will be happy to go into the Training Arena or the Dueling Arena to work with you on your acm.
Apply at http://www.geocities.com/arlogu3/VF_17.html
This is a great game, but the learning curve is steep. Try not to get too frustrated.
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sloppyjo
HO = to head on someone, a dweeb move easily countered by a skilled pilot putting him in an advantageous position over someone like skull12 ;)
chog = F4U-c with 20mm cannons
churricane = hurricane IIc with 20mm cannons
arado = ar234 jet bomber
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
im a strange breed just becuase i only fly LW. btw if you HO someone aim for the engine works evertime :D you pass them look at them see they smoking you know they dead:cool:
skull12
You only fly LW but yet you have a USAAF insignia as an avatar, ask for a British bomber in your signature and today saw you land a 2 kill mission in a B-17. LW all the way!!!!
ack-ack
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Sloppyjoe you might want to search the message boards for any films that other players have posted. This is the best way to see ACM in action without the trial by fire.
ack-ack
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download this to your c:/program files/htc/aces high/films
folder open in either the film viewer or the film button on your clipboard. select the film and clic the play button.
Leviathn's crazy fun (http://www.theblueknights.com/files/7_21_03_Crazy_fun.ahf)
This is Leviathn in a spit 5 working his magic... you can learn alot just from this film.
as you watch in the film viewer pay attention to his SA (situation awarness) in other words his head movements thru the views.
now this is adv acm , with excellent gunnery.
you may need to start out with more of a BnZ (boom and zoom )BnZ approach at first ... Good luck
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You only fly LW but yet you have a USAAF insignia as an avatar, ask for a British bomber in your signature and today saw you land a 2 kill mission in a B-17. LW all the way!!!!
first this is my squad noseart.
second im the bomber CO of my squad i fly most of the bomber and my favorite is the boston.
3rd i need to edit avatar a bit.
skull12
(note how i want the HE111 happy?)
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HO = to head on someone, a dweeb move easily countered by a skilled pilot putting him in an advantageous position over someone like skull12
ive killed(let me count) 5 spit9 dweebs.1 p47 fatty.umm 5 la7s.couple of others but if you going to win depend on 3 things.
1.the plane match up.i like to HO them so that if i miss i know what they are so i can decide what do from there.
2.the pilot. if you put me in a spit9 give me same suituation i can promise that i wont get the kill cause i cant fly that plane.
3.your action. what you do next is up to you. you will either screw up and be on fire or you can use your plane and skill right to get the kill.
skull12
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download this to your c:/program files/htc/aces high/films
folder open in either the film viewer or the film button on your clipboard. select the film and clic the play button.
Leviathn's crazy fun
This is Leviathn in a spit 5 working his magic... you can learn alot just from this film.
as you watch in the film viewer pay attention to his SA (situation awarness) in other words his head movements thru the views.
Only in my wet dreams would I be able to pull something like that off... Thanks for the film
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thats what you will achieve after the learning curve in this game.
its getting to know one plane really well . its flight model/its E (energy) recovery, retention, and loss,rate of roll ,ect,then move on to its gunnery ,ect . then move on and try all the planes to learn there fm (flight model).start with the ones u see alot of in the game.
Its also good to go off and practice some 1 vs 1
The big mistake most of those guys did against Lev in that movie was ... they tried to out turn him /or turn with him to soon .
a spit 9 is alittle faster then a spit 5 but it cant out turn it .
I would of extended after the 1st pass(merge) 2.2 away or so and try to leave him low and slow and circle looking for an entry into a second pass.
theres alot of other great films out there to .. we just need to get a fresh link page up.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
You only fly LW but yet you have a USAAF insignia as an avatar, ask for a British bomber in your signature and today saw you land a 2 kill mission in a B-17. LW all the way!!!!
ok new avatar happy :)
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
but if you going to win depend on 3 things.
1.the plane match up.i like to HO them so that if i miss i know what they are so i can decide what do from there.
It takes two to HO, so if the other pilot doesn't play the HO game, you're dead. Remember, the one only maneuvers for the HO shot is the one that usually ends up dead first.
2.the pilot. if you put me in a spit9 give me same suituation i can promise that i wont get the kill cause i cant fly that plane.
While I agree that it's 90% pilot that determines the outcome of a fight but, really...if you have a tough time flying any of the Spitfires, then maybe you should ask for some training by one of the AH trainers or veteran player.
3.your action. what you do next is up to you. you will either screw up and be on fire or you can use your plane and skill right to get the kill.
Good point but if you insist on following your rule #1, you're going to find yourself sitting in a chute and watching your burning plane fall to the earth. Take some time to learn some ACM and improve your SA and you'll have more options at your disposal in a fight. Successful tactics makes for a successful pilot and with a tactic like the HO were at best your chance for success is 50% (or less depending on the plane) doesn't make it the best choice for one to rely on.
Ack-Ack
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Greetings Roscoroo :)
Would u be having any more "Great Films" such as the 1 u posted above? I'm highly motivated in self improvement in AH & such
films are a valuable asset to learning. Pls post more films.
Leviathn's crazy fun is really something !
Cheers,
Happy1 :D
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the blue knights film page (http://www.theblueknights.com/Films.html) give thanks to "Nopoop" for the web site.
Theres one for now w/ several films on it ... i'll add more when im done w/ work. (i had over 50 great training films but i lost those last fall in my house fire) even some 1vs 1's w/ Lev and me (I lost most of the time) .... but I learned alot from them.
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Hello Roscoroo:)
Thx much for ur courtesies & fast response to my queries, the films have been DL'd into my films folder ... u r very kind & helpful
Sorry to hear abt ur house fire, most unpleasant to experience or to contemplate, hope everything's fine now :)
Looking forward to receiving more films when u've the time & pa-
tience.
Gratefully,
Happy1 :D
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heres some more film links for ya ... (im not shure if they all still work )
http://films.aceshigh.furballcentral.com/ (http://films.aceshigh.furballcentral.com/)
http://combatarena.users.btopenworld.com/Films.html (http://combatarena.users.btopenworld.com/Films.html)
http://www.combathanger.com/ (http://www.combathanger.com/)
Some of these are zipped or may be in .mov or a different format
WMP or QT should play them.
you'll just have to hit and miss here ... as for i havent watched all of these ... but ussually the guys try to post the best films .
(the fire was a pain i lost 3 pc's because of it ,,,the brand new 2.4 pent hurt the most ) my darn suped up 500mhz 486 was the only one to survive . The mrs roo is using it currentally... (and she has that I need a new pc look in her eyes )
<----see Avitar (at least she can keep making cool stuff like that on it)
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
ok new avatar happy :)
No offense but having a German Maltese Cross on a USAAF insignia is kind of in bad taste. Might want to rethink that one.
ack-ack
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Roscoroo :D
Thx very much for the 3 film links as I dl'd quite a few films for my edification, now I'll be watching the majority of them. I spent a
lot of time studying Leviathn's SA in his "Spit5 Films", his moves are incredible & his gunnery is fantastic! The man hardly misses,
in fact, he always obtains hits which turn out 2b kills.
I tried to emulate his moves & gunnery skills offline in a Spit5 on
circling drones & found the a/c lacking in firepower, after the cannons are gone the mgs are akin to BBs,ie... the targets were
hit & smoking but didn't go down or blow up.
I learned my lesson that it's the pilot & his skills & NOT the a/c that make the ACE. Wish I had the eyes that Leviathn has to im-
prove my gunnery skills or how he does it ... leading the tgt as ac-
curately as he does. Thx once again for ur assist :)
It's a sad state of affairs that the fire caused the loss of ur property causing so much pain, agony & financial loss plus sentimental value which can never be replaced. :( I wish u well &
a speedy recovery. Take care.
Cheers,
Happy1
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Hi Happy ,
its about time to get ya into the main .. or h2h land ..live targets are best.
one other thing if you open an offline game go to setup/ arena settings/ look for " PlaneGunAmmoMult=1.000000 "
higher adds more ammo to your plane raise this to 5.00000 or so this will give ya more bullits for those nasty drones..
see this post for settings (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=93858&referrerid=4291)
this should explain alot and help you tune your game for offline or h2h hosting, this is the arena settings file.
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Say there Roscoroo :)
Thx 4 the info re Arena settings, I made the necessary chgs per ur
suggestions, now I'm ready for h2h or offline games, for the time being I'll be mostly practising in offline & as I gain confidence in myself @ leading targets I'll be in h2h & DA.
Grateful for ur courtesies & assistance ;)
Cheers,
Happy1 :D
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Happy1 and Sloppyjo, I'm glad to hear that you found the films useful and fun! Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Sloppyjo - welcome!
I'd jump on Leviathon's offer...he's one of the best in the game. If I could fly like that I'd quit my day job
DmdMax
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I've got one Q For the master of spit Leviathn here ... I keep forgetting to ask ....
Ok when you line up for your shots are you starting your lead line up from the tail of the aircraft or do you lead from ahead of the plane ???? (it looks like the tail to me )
(in my FA days we had to lead from ahead "the latency thing here" ,In AH I find my self leading from the tail in most situations.)
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
Ok when you line up for your shots are you starting your lead line up from the tail of the aircraft or do you lead from ahead of the plane ???? (it looks like the tail to me )
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, Roscoroo, but I'll try my best to answer. When lining up on planes, I usually use their wings as my frame of reference (since it's the biggest cross-section). I'll then pull lead accordingly from there with the intent being that my shots hit inbetween the wings into the cockpit area.
Obviously this varies from target to target and situation to situation. If I see someone making a hard break turn while I'm coming in with a slight altitude advantage, I won't line up his tail; I'll angle into an intercept course and fire where I know he's going to be given the geometry of the situation.
Hope that helps!
-- Todd/Leviathn
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I think that ansered my Q...
i'm having alittle trouble explaining it with out pictures.and i know what my one habbit is doing to my % , its not a bad habbit it just wastes ammo as im lining up my shots sometimes.
I might need to find a different convergence setting to improve here to ..
this is in reference to my spit/ E type fighter flying ,Im trying to get my hit %up from 30%avg to 50-60% if possiable,I cant expect much more then that ..(20+ years of welding doesnt help me much )
Thanks
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Greetings Dead Man Flying :)
Thx much 4 ur reply ... appreciate ur films as I learn from them ...
wish I had more in order to benefit from ur expertise, I seem not
to have enuff ammo in the Spit5, because, as I found out after
watching ur films I'm spraying & praying instead of firing CALCU-
LATED shots on tgt .... Lesson # 1 learned.... NO D600 firing, but
get in close ;)
On leading my tgts I lead from the nose plus the size of the a/c
ahead of the nme plane, to wit. where:
X is the nme; L is the Lead. I conjure the nme 2b thusly:
L X then I fire where the L is. Pls note that
there's a space betwix L & X designating a/c bulk.
I'm prolly doing it wrong as I can't seem to determine the correct distance in leading the plane as I overshoot :(
I've read articles on Air to Air Gunnery w/pictures & do understand the principles involved but am unable to put it to prac-
tise, however, I must admit that I've never aimed at the cross section of the wings ... stands to reason, as it's the biggest part of the a/c, hence I'll amend my gunnery accordingly.
Is there a particular gunsight that I may use to learn HOW to properly lead an a/c in order to 2b able to emulate ur gunnery prowess?
Thx for ur help, patience & courtesies.
Happy1 :D
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No offense but having a German Maltese Cross on a USAAF insignia is kind of in bad taste. Might want to rethink that one.
i have bad taste. i thing water taste like lemonade. btw if you going to fly p38 ask ack ack for help. he is the best p38 flyer AH has.
skull12
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Happy,
First turn off your tracers if you havn't already. Tracers warn the enemy that your there, and the arc of them obscures your target.... if your pulling the right lead :)
Practice hitting the drones off line for an hour or so in your favorite plane. Use different angles of approuch, at different speeds. Also you can turn up the settings so you have alot more ammo and fuel so you can do this in one flight. Set up your shot, get close, and fire a burst or two.
After doing this for an hour or so, log into the MA and go hunting! You'll be amazed how much it helps !!! I like to do this before I fly, but time in the real world gets in the way far too often :)
Good luck, and I'll Cya up !!
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Heya, Happy1!
The key to good gunnery, above all else, is practice. Don't think of it so much as an equation or various rules of thumb. Thinking about shooting... computing lead in your head, using gunsight markings, determining relative speeds, etc... can lead to hesitation and inaccuracy.
It's to the point now where I find that I think very little about aiming, and in fact I had to ponder awhile about what little goes through my mind when I responded to Roscoroo. This results from practice and years of experience where I get a "feel" for the correct lead and take it.
That said, there are a few techniques that I'd recommend for improving gunnery. First, turn off your tracers. I can't stress that enough. Too often players, even vets who've been playing for years, fall back on tracers as a crutch. They walk the tracers to the target rather than choosing the correct aiming point initially; this wastes ammo. Turning tracers off forces you to actually aim using the gunsight.
Second, get in close before opening fire. I set my convergence to around 250-275, and I rarely open fire past 300 yards unless I'm trying to pick off someone extending away from me on a failed boom and zoom pass. Firing at your convergence range maximizes lethality, and firing in close increases the lethality of each gun. It's entirely possible, for instance, to nab two, three, or even four kills with a Spit V's .303s once the 20mm cannons run out simply by getting in close and firing the machine guns at convergence.
Last, take good shots and avoid bad ones. I tend to prefer deflection shots rather than straight six shots since they provide me with more of the enemy plane to hit. Very simply, the more area an enemy provides you to hit, the more likely you are to hit it. To that end, I prefer maneuvering so that I have at least some angle while shooting rather than taking pure six shots.
As for gunsights, I just use the default and always have. I've never seen the benefit in custom gunsights, but mileage varies from player to player. You may find a gunsight that helps your aim considerably, so don't rule it out.
Hope this helps!
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Greetings Dead Man Flying :)
Just returned home a couple hours ago from a 2 day business
seminar ...... good 2b home again .... time to rest & recuperate ;)
Thx ever so much for ur quick response to my queries, per ur sug-
gestions I:
(A) Turned off my tracers,
(B) Converged my guns to D275
(C) Open fire at
Likewise when I'm out of cannons in the Spit V, I get in close to
my tgt & burst off a round of .303s, & was surprised to actually get a couple of kills using MGs only!
Also learned the big difference betwix 6 o'clock shots & deflection
shots, the latter presents a far bigger target (tgt) :D U R so rite,
the bigger the tgt the easier the kill.
Thx again for ur worthwhile advice in helping me to become a better marksman & thusly making the game more enjoyable for me. Ur courtesies, help & graciousness are much appreciated :)
Cheers,
Happy1 :D
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Leviathn posted some great stuff here...
I myself have my spit 5 conv set at 325,no tracers, as for thats more in my firing range/timing in the game , (ive tried the 250-275 range it didnt work as well for me )
I also have to do the short 303 burst (feeling for the target ) this is because im currently on 56k again , last year when i was on a steady dsl connect it didnt have to feel for the target as much .
As for gunsites i use the default in everything but the F4u's i have a custom one just for jabo runs. I also have the conv set out at 500 in those planes.
If you ask the other guys your gonna see varied setups all over the place. id suggest that you try to remember the distance that you fire at most and set your conv for that distance, (under 500 hopefully)
Just something else to take into consideration
also when your flying offline theres a target that you can pull up at a set distance to check your ballistics at different ranges.
fly on auto level first ... then type .target 300
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Another tips is when you saddle up on the bandit's six position, saddle up at a slight angle to the bandit instead of his 'dead six' position (directly behind the bandit). By approaching the the bandit's six position at a slight angle, you have more of a target profile to aim at and your shots will likely do more damage since you've got a greater area of the bandit's plane to hit.
Ack-Ack
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A Cheery Good Morning Roscoroo & Ack-Ack :)
Thx 4 ur kind advice re convergence & full utilization of .target XXX
to judge the cone of fire of my guns. I double checked my chosen
convergence of 275 & knocked the bullseye out, well satisfied with
my prowess I tried D300 w/similar results. At D400, the shots were still within the bullseye but a click lower, so far so good,
however I feel more comfortable w/targeting nmes at btw, I've a 56K modem & am using a mouse.
I do realize that flying w/a joystick is far more pleasurable than a mouse, in fact everything in flight becomes easier, ever try taking
off from a CV in a fully loaded F4U-1D &/or landing on a CV with a
mouse? Takes some doing & infinite patience especially w/the a/c yawing from side to side, up & dwn .... LOL :D
This morning I'm going to stop by at Circuit City & purchase a $10.
joystick, "ST50 Lightning Action Stick" by Saitek, no bells or whistles, just the stick & throttle plus 2 seperate guns, for my hat
(views) I'll use the keypads, as my spouse thinks it's totally silly for a Trader to be playing games women, u can't live w/o
them nor would I want to .... LOL!
The gunsight I use & find most helpful to me is the N1K2 & the Z
(zoom) key when I line up for a shot, incidentally Roscoroo, I'm
happy to learn that in the very near future, u'll have Films (Gun-
cams) combat & training on ur website, which website is most colorful & well done ,,, congratulations. Yes, I agree with u that Leviathn is quite something in his expertise w/the SpitV & his gunnery skills prowess, the man deserves kudos.
Ack-Ack thx 4 ur input re the proper angle of attack on an nme's 6, I tried it & was able to see a broader picture of the plane thusly presenting me with a better lead & an easier kill. I, like-
wise DL'd a few of the P38 films from u, u r quite accomplished in
ur own rite, congrats on ur skills in the 38.
Cheers,
Happy1
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A quick suggestion about joysticks ... if you can swing the cash get yourself a twisty type stick 19-45 u.s. you will have alot better rudder control and a hat view set up.
I use a wingman extreme most of the time (19 bucks at target),
The big problem with the wingmans is if you have a heavy hand and wrench the stick alot it breaks a part in the lower spring mount ... I custom welded a part in mine so that doesnt happen anymore.
And i use my old thrustmaster at work(no throttle/4 way hat)w/ rudder peddles.
alot of guys use the ms sw pro , or the saitek, the guys that invest the bucks go with the thrustmaster, hotas cougar, or the saitek throttle/ stick set up.
as for the force feed backs i get enough vibration at work so i dont use them . (this varies with each user)
for the saitek st200 i used one befor but without a good rudder your flying skill is limited somewhat. they seam to lose there calibration alot to as they get older.
Just My opinion on joysticks :)
If your gonna keep mouse flying you need to look up "Sysprobe" either here or in the MA , he was the best mouse flyer ive ever seen.He may give you some pointers.
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Hi Roscoroo :)
Thx 4 ur suggestions ... bot the ST50 joystk prior to coming home
from work, discovered ur email ... tried connecting to my DELL DI-
MENSION 4300 19gigabytes computer, & to my chagrin, noticed that I need a PC Game Card as a PC Game Port is required :(
Seemingly the joystick's plug is too large & should be approx. 60%
smaller ... what a pain. A PC Game Card is prolly costly & reason
dictates that even upon installation it's liable to interfere with the
original Sound Card creating other problems or not working at all.
Cheers,
Happy1 :D
P.S. Thx much 4 all of ur help :)
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i remember my old saitek had a usb/ gameport adaptor with it.
and all my wingmans have one .
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Roscoroo, what's a usb/gameport adaptor, where may I buy 1?
Would it remedy my problems? Thx 4 ur input.
Happy1 :D
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i think you can get them at any local pc store . even freddies.target ,radio shack ,.... ect
I think you saitek should of came with one ...check the side of the box ... if it says usb combatable then it should of had one.
excuse the typo ...http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/st50.htm (http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/st50.htm) it says its usb port so it should have the adaptor with it .
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Greetings Roscoroo:
Thx 4 ur advice, tried several PC Stores downtown, to wit, Comp-
USA, Radio Shack & Circuit City w/o success, none of them have it
& some didn't know what I was talking about :( Same results
in area where I reside.
Shall dble chk the Target stores tomorrow, btw, went to the store I purchased my ST50 from & they don't have the usb adapter in the boxes.
Phoned a cple of smaller PC/Electronics stores inquiring abt an adapter w/15 pin analog (Female) with a (Male) USB @ the other
end & they try to sell u the more expensive stuff... that's the way it is in the Bay Area ... $$$ b4 quality work.
Shall have to rethink my earlier decision. Thx 4 ur help.
Cheers,
Happy1
:D
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Happy1, can you return the $10.00 stick you just bought?
I myself use a wingman extreme 3D and am happy enough with it.
Probably about $20.00.
It has all you will need for now. Twist handle for rudder control, a great button layout, and 8 way hat switch.
The only thing I dont like about it is it is a little on the fragile side (I go through 2 a year). But I am a little heavy handed.
Having a workable stick will improve your control greatly.
This stick is an acceptable solution for those of us on a budget, I think.
Also this stick comes complete with the gameport to USB adapter,
nothing else to hunt for and buy.
Cheers Happy1, and welcome aboard :)
RTR
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Say there RTR :D
Always happy 2 hear from u, thx much 4 ur advice re. Logitech
Wingman Extreme Digital 3D, as a matter of fact, Roscoroo re-
commended it a few days ago likewise, thusly, 2 good positive
inputs. I must admit that the Wingman products @ 1st impres-
sion don't especially bode well for the stick as it's a flacid looking
contraption :(
Further empirical study reveals that approx. 50% of the people
using it applaud it whilst the others are against it due to brea-
kage, however, all are unanimous in applauding ease of operation
. setup, & programming, however, the pendulum swings both ways.
Yes RTR, upon ur advice I DID return the ST50 & recouped my ex-
penditure & ordered "Wingman" from , of all places, http://www.amazon.
com a few minutes ago :p due to the fact that ALL the Target stores, PC stores & CompUSA hardly carry any joysticks, a very limited supply. The $20.00 stick today costs $29.95 & shall arrive @ my domicile by 09/03/2003; presently I'm out $40.00 +
change ... ouch :eek:
Gentlemen, I solicit ur assistance in the very near future to help me obtain optimum performance from this purchase. Thx ;)
Cheers,
Happy1 :D
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wow my compusa store has more sticks, wheels, pads.. then you can shake a joystick at... my 1st wingman cost 24 bucks there ...
P's, when u install it dont plug it in until it tells ya too . (while using the installer cd) ..
the only thing you will/may have to adjust is the deadband/damping in AH just to get the "Do not move stick to fast" out of it... (and it doesnt take much)
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LOL! :D Certainly do like ur CompUSA as it seems to have everything & then some .... that's the way it used 2b 6-10 yrs
ago with a complement of helpful staff in the San Francisco Bay
Area, now it's all chgd 4 the worse :(
The Bay Area is money greedy w/service being down, rude clerks
& prices high, therefore, if u've found a good item take the best
of cares of it or else it'll cost u. I wasn't able to find ANY joystks
for under $49.99 !
Thx 4 ur tips on installing the stk :) ;)
HAPPY1 :D
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actually i very rarely by anything from compusa... blank cd's and a few softwere programs is about it ... id rather spend money down at my little whole in the wall pc store .(that way i get good free advice and killer deals on things) ... oh yea i forgot how the bay area was .... i havent been down there much since baylands raceway closed...
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U r lucky, Roscoroo, there's no hole in the wall, friendly computer
store anywhere here or maybe I just can't find 1, of a certainty they're not listed in the Yellow Pages. Approx 6yrs ago I took my
PC to have more RAM put in @ CompUSA, people were friendly &
helpful then, since then the quality of svc went downhill.
Baylands Raceway? Never heard of it, however, Bay Meadows
Racetrack (Horse-racing track) is open, which I used to visit on
occasion, to augment my income :D I used to handicap horse
races on my calculator & play my choices, made a living for 2.6yrs
until my winnings were gone then I got a job & stopped attend-
ing the races :p
Presently watching the AH films of the experts such as Leviathn & a few others to learn from them & practising my gunnery skills.
Can hardly wait until u have ur own Film Archive so that I'll be able
to obtain more educational films, in the meantime take care :)
Happy1 :D
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i think it closed in 87-88 we used to race there ,sears point , sac ,reading, pomona, and few others back then.
and really no hole in the wall pc store .... hmmmmm perhaps someone should open one...
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Originally posted by Happy1
my spouse thinks it's totally silly for a Trader to be playing games
:D
She does,eh. :D We have all kinds of people that play this game. Military fighter pilots, Commericial pilots, business owners, unemployed, veternarians, soldiers, retired, blue collar, white collar, preachers, ect. from Italy, Japan, Korea, Brazil, Norway, Sweden, Britain, Germany, Hong Kong ect.
So it's a diverse bunch.