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Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Yeager on September 20, 2000, 09:20:00 AM
We've also been working on version 1.05. This version will feature player-controlled carrier groups. New planes we're currently working                   on are the F6F-5 and TBM-3.
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Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Ripsnort on September 20, 2000, 09:23:00 AM
I wonder how they decide who gets to control the CV?  
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: popeye on September 20, 2000, 09:32:00 AM
Time for some hysterical speculation!!!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

popeye
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: bojc on September 20, 2000, 09:57:00 AM
Muhahahaha   Yamamotos worst nightmare returns>   bojc and major HJ in a TBM!!!
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Pyro on September 20, 2000, 10:03:00 AM
Hehe Popeye.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

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Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: dbcooper on September 20, 2000, 08:11:00 PM
   Pyro I'm retired U.S.N. 30 yrs I earned those puppys.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: RAM on September 20, 2000, 08:16:00 PM
Humpf...2 more american planes  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)

oh,well  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Minotaur on September 20, 2000, 08:52:00 PM
Control of the CV is a perk ride!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Naso
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Pongo on September 20, 2000, 09:24:00 PM
By height of course...
only logical way. Tallest gets it.

Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on September 20, 2000, 10:52:00 PM
Player controled CV? hehehe I can't wait for the first CV HO!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Brazos on September 20, 2000, 10:59:00 PM
Er,

They may plan to allow any player to captain a carrier fleet. Each squad would have it's own fleets. In a proper Pac scenario terrain, more than four carriers groups might be needed. The Damned have always named "our" boat the USS Woolen. Now we will finally get to drive it, heheh.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Cya up...Braz
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Minotaur on September 20, 2000, 11:23:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy:
Player controled CV? hehehe I can't wait for the first CV HO!   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

LOL  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

"You CV-Dweeb!"



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Naso
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 21, 2000, 01:28:00 AM
Hi


With the navy coming along in 1.05 will there be a new MA map? I dont see how the current map would lend itself to a useful and interesting naval war.

thanks GRUNHERZ
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: SC-GreyBeard on September 21, 2000, 04:25:00 AM
I can see it now,log in day after 1.05 releases,

shows 110 people on..

Nuthing over land,

100 Carrier groups at sea, doing mass HO's...

while 10 guys are accidently bailling outta their planes they're laffing so hard....

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Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Torque on September 21, 2000, 04:27:00 AM
Hey do we get SUBS???????? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: SC-GreyBeard on September 21, 2000, 04:30:00 AM
Another thing,, sure hope the CV's will have the proper 40mm quad mount guns, player mannable...

would be cool to see some major flak in a sea-air battle...



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Senior Staff Council
"The Skeleton Crew"
"Fly with Honor"[/i]
"Keepin' the Faith"
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Vermillion on September 21, 2000, 06:33:00 AM
Oh Sure RAM.

They're adding a Navy, and Aircraft Carriers in 1.05, so the obvious addition to the planeset was the Me109T.

Damn them for adding that non-representative F6F Hellcat !!!!

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Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Hristo on September 21, 2000, 06:44:00 AM
Verm, they could add a Swordfish or two, you know. Channel dash, with 190s covering the ships against those paperplanes  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif).

And some early US Navy stuff, FM-2 whatever.
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Vermillion on September 21, 2000, 08:25:00 AM
While I agree that the SwordFish would make an interesting aircraft, its use in the game would be solely as a target.

Out of my memory the two largest success's of the Swordfish were not Aircraft Carrier vs Aircraft Carrier, but in CV vs Battleships/Cruisers.

I can think of the Sinking of the Bismark, and the British raid on the Italian port of Taranto.

Anymore I am missing? Was there any Operational use of the Swordfish where it met legitamate airborne opposition?

FM-2. Actually the FM-2, was from the same period as the F6F Hellcat, relatively late in the war. Your probably thinking of the F4F Wildcat.

The FM-2, came about when Grumman started producing the F6F Hellcat, but there was still a need for the older Grumman F4F Wildcat for use on smaller escort carriers. So production was shifted over to General Motors, and they produced a new varient with a more powerful engine and some other changes, and it became the FM2.



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**MOL**, Men of Leisure
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: minus on September 21, 2000, 08:32:00 AM
i the navy will be perked u US uber iron pilots it will take a eternity to get the points to get hand on some ship !!!
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ya i know 190A8 is to god ! need to be tuned down
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: jmccaul on September 21, 2000, 12:33:00 PM
The swordfish was in service for the duration of the war.


P.S. I am reading "to war in a stringbag" at the moment.[edit] and it's brilliant.  I didn't mean to just say that i just stopped and hit submit[edit]

[This message has been edited by jmccaul (edited 09-21-2000).]
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Vermillion on September 21, 2000, 01:34:00 PM
jmmcaul, "in service" and "used effectively in a hostile combat environment" are two totally different things  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Not to take a thing away from the Swordfish crews, they were some really gutsy SOB's !!

But my point was that I can't remember they're being used in a situation where they faced not only with AAA, but determined fighter resistance, and still succeeded.

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Karnak on September 21, 2000, 02:38:00 PM
Fact is, the Stringbag sank more tonnage of Axis shipping than any other Allied torpedo bomber, that includes the Devastator and TBF.

The Stringbag also outlasted its replacement.

It wasn't active at the end because there weren't any Axis ships to sink in the theatres that it operated in.

Sisu
-Karnak
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Vermillion on September 21, 2000, 03:23:00 PM
*GROAN*

Ok, so you guys are telling me that the Swordfish would have been effective in a battle like Coral Sea or Midway?

Karnak, I would love to see those numbers of tonnages sunk, and they're source. But it would also be interesting how much of that tonnage was enemy combat shipping with modern fighter cover, not coastal freighters that were just moving live fire targets.

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: -duma- on September 21, 2000, 03:32:00 PM
I have a 'friend' at school who is one of those people who believes himself to be an expert at anything  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

After showing him WWII Online, there were a few posts about the Swordfish (I'm fairly sure it was on the WWIIOL boards anyway). He commented that it was probably a pretty hard plane to shoot down. When I asked him why, he said that it was because the enemy planes would just overshoot it.

Mind you, this is the same guy that is convinced a Harrier can hover in the middle of a dogfight and swivel around like a helicopter.. sigh  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Swordfish would be fun in WWIIOL, but not here.
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Fatty on September 21, 2000, 03:36:00 PM
Can I have a fishing boat, with lots of cooler space?
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Fatty on September 21, 2000, 03:38:00 PM
aw man, I thought I was in the general 1.05 thread.
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: K-KEN on September 22, 2000, 12:04:00 AM
Oh My....
this threat has gone from good news to which plane sunk the Bismark!  Seems to me, that Yeager was passing on good news.  Of course, the funnies came out....and had their say-
and the earlier ones were very funny.  Carrier HO in AH...Not possible... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (yet)
I think we can say that any upgrade is welcome, and stop picking on the little stuff!  Damn, it's sad to see an 80 message post do nothing more than moan and cry because of the color of the bomb sight!
Let's add more features...like now, and just thank HTC for what they are doing.  No one is perfect, otherwise..we'd be flying YOUR SIM!     (can I have first crack at a carrier command?)   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

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Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Igloo on September 22, 2000, 02:40:00 AM
Question:

Would it be possible to have two main arenas?  One would run European Theatre and the other would run Pacific, with Carriers, etc.

Just adds to the realism...would look funny seeing Spitfires landing on American Carriers.
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: jmccaul on September 22, 2000, 04:30:00 PM
They must of remained fairly succesful due to the fact the swordfish's succesor was taken out of service during the war while the swordfish soldiered on. Frankly i think that any torpedo plane will be totally outclassed by the current planeset to a point where even worse performnace will not have that much effect, also remember the swordfish was increadiably manouvreable so it should be fun to throw around with a 190 BnZing you  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Karnak on September 22, 2000, 04:50:00 PM
Vermillion,

Nah, it would have been slaughtered by the Japanese.  Worse than the Devastator.

It mainly sank merchant shipping.

Taranto was against moored Italian warships and there is of course the Bismark incident.  'Course, her AA guns were mechanically set to lead an aircraft that would be going faster than the Swordfish could.  Bismark's AA guns all had too much lead to hit the dang things.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Sisu
-Karnak
Title: News: Hellcat arrives in 1.05
Post by: Kieren on September 22, 2000, 08:27:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by jmccaul:
They must of remained fairly succesful due to the fact the swordfish's succesor was taken out of service during the war while the swordfish soldiered on. Frankly i think that any torpedo plane will be totally outclassed by the current planeset to a point where even worse performnace will not have that much effect, also remember the swordfish was increadiably manouvreable so it should be fun to throw around with a 190 BnZing you   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)


Like the Me110, the Swordfish was forced to soldier on not so much because of its sparkling performance (which it didn't possess) but because its replacement offered only a marginal increase in speed with less maneuverability.

Remember, the Stuka remained in service throughout the war despite being proven woefully inadequate against enemy fighters, even as early as the Battle of Britain. The Swordfish could turn all day, but anything in the game would bring it down eventually- it simply couldn't run or climb away.