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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Shooter on November 29, 2001, 01:12:00 AM
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I don't usualy think we need to over police our members, most of us can have a good time and engage in a little banter but still treat each other like adults, however "Deuso1" comments about airline pilots being rutabagas for letting terrorists take over the controls went way beyond what we should tolerate. we lost thousands of good people that day and I lost 350 FF brothers-I don't appreciate anyone making lite of it-Shooter
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It was good to see Pyro telling him to back off, though.
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hmm
why am i not surprised :eek: :rolleyes:
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the more I think about this the more it aggrevates me.
Personal story:
My older brother's best friend worked as a stock broker in the 2nd tower. When the first plane hit, everyone was evacuated in his building. As he went down the stairs, they called everyone back to their offices since the problem was in the other building. He kept going and that probably saved his life.
Sean's back here on the Cape now, working locally for a firm. He came to our house about 2 weeks after it all happened and I must say that is when the magnitude of what happened hit me. This is a guy that I remember to be the wiseass part of my brother's clique back when they were in high school. (class of 1991) He was always goofing off and the Sean I saw that day was not the one I knew before.
For anyone to be spurting their mouth off like this guy has during his first week here in AH just hurts HTC's business. Like I said before, if our arenas were populated with his type I wouldnt be here. I love the company, I love the squad and 99% of the people, but no way should anyone have to deal with his bull.
HTC, I hope he got a real good warning.
[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: moose ]
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Deus01 was mouthing off all nite. It seemed like it was his mission to piss off as many people as possible. Makes me wish killshooter was off...
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gunman26's brother?
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Concerning Deus01 's behavior tonite...This degenerate..<and i use this term loosely> has gone beyond the bounds of human decency..for him too openly disgrace the memory of our fallen citizens in the WTC tragedy..I spit at thee with my last dying breath..I hope you wind up in a correctional institute callin Bubba ur daddy..Learn some respect towards HTC,your fellow pilots,and your fellow US citizens :eek:
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See Vulcan's thread on cruelty to sheep. Stupidity is alive and well in man. Just think, there are other idiots out there, and some of them drive our roads.
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It took me just 30 seconds to hit the squelch on this bastage last night, and I dont think I can remember ever squelching anyone.
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Apart from if it's offensive or not, which I'm sure it is. Saying "..comments about airline pilots being rutabagas for letting terrorists take over the controls..." is just plain stupid, ANYWAY. Because, for one thing, pilots are supposed to think of the passengers safety first and foremost and I'm sure they never suspected for one minute those terrorists were suicidal. All hijackings up to then weren't. There was no reason to think any different.
Also fighting in the cockpit did happen on one plane, and the results were predictable (the one that crashed in the field).
Also, there was no way the pilots knew they were planning on crashing the planes into the WTC or Pentagon, but I'm sure that if the pilots knew they were gonna die, I'm SURE they WOULD have put up a fight. I mean, what do you have to lose if you know you;re gonna die anyway?
That's just ridiculous what he said. God, some people need to buy a brain or what?
[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: FlyingDuckSittingSwan ]
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I have asked myself often since Sept. 11, what would I have done.
There are many individuals in a free society who believe that a course of passive activity is the best means to a positive end.
Personaly, I don't agree.
I have a great deal of sorrow and respect for those lives that were lost that day, but I also hold some contempt that only 1 of the 4 planes missed it's target.
I am extremely proud of the men and women who stood up for themselves over Penn.
On the 2nd aircraft that hit the WTC, there was a woman who was talking on a cell phone. In an interview with the relation to whom she was speaking for 3 minutes prior to the 2nd crash, it was revealed that she conveyed the knowlege of the first crash and knew that she was going to suffer the same fate.
She feared the knives and believed that they had bombs.
I think it wrong for anyone to call any of them rutabagas! PERIOD
But, lets cut the guy some slack. We all have our own opinions and feelings. Better to teach him respect than to shun him for having a heart.
This ability is what makes us, Americans, GREAT.
Viper
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I stopped in the training arena the other night to see if I could provide some help to anyone that needed questions answered. Deus01 was there using some extremely foul language and verbally attacking all sorts of people. We politely asked him to watch his language and only after we threatened him to start recording his tirades did he stop cussing. This guy has a lot of growing up to do.
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This is the same guy who went off on me after he killshootered himself. According to him I was "blocking his line of fire." I'm pretty sure Deus rides the short yellow bus.
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Saddle up on him, and give him about 100 "Check 6" calls ...or, call out his coordinates to other countries, we have the ability to control some behaviorial types ;)
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or, call out his coordinates to other countries, we have the ability to control some behaviorial types
Yes we do, and I for one would happily do my part to make this guys online experience a near piece of hell :)
There was a guy named B17 who used to fly in one of the AW betas years ago who was about as bad as the way this guy has been described. He used to use several different accounts and would shoot down fellow countrymen for whatever country he flew with, and he had a mouth on him that would embarrass a sailor. Well, everyone in the arena got tired of this guy and one day, wherever he went, on whichever side, he was chastised, called names and humiliated; we never heard from him again. :)
Sounds to me like we have our version of B17 here in AH, can't be helped, its a free country and offers a free 2 week beta. But, we in the community do not have to suffer these ignoramuses, and we can all do something about em. Lemme know if you need my assistance, whenever I am online :) Me and my entire squad, if up will join in on the hunt.
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I don't know what's worse, Dueso1 or the constant text generated by people who refuse to ignore him.
The guy is an idiot, and is obviously doing this stuff to illicit reaction. Basically, there are quite a few people being played by an idiot.
Take screen caps and send them to HTC <quietly>. Squelch him. Ignore him. Get over it. He'll disappear much faster that way.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by Sky Viper:
I have asked myself often since Sept. 11, what would I have done.
There are many individuals in a free society who believe that a course of passive activity is the best means to a positive end.
Personaly, I don't agree.
I have a great deal of sorrow and respect for those lives that were lost that day, but I also hold some contempt that only 1 of the 4 planes missed it's target.
I am extremely proud of the men and women who stood up for themselves over Penn.
On the 2nd aircraft that hit the WTC, there was a woman who was talking on a cell phone. In an interview with the relation to whom she was speaking for 3 minutes prior to the 2nd crash, it was revealed that she conveyed the knowlege of the first crash and knew that she was going to suffer the same fate.
She feared the knives and believed that they had bombs.
I think it wrong for anyone to call any of them rutabagas! PERIOD
But, lets cut the guy some slack. We all have our own opinions and feelings. Better to teach him respect than to shun him for having a heart.
This ability is what makes us, Americans, GREAT.
Viper
It's just nuts trying to speculate what you would have done. The fact is....you have no right to criticize those people on the plane who died.
Just another day....you get on a plane. Plane ride is routine and boring. Plane is nearly empty, 30 odd people. You take off your shoes, you relax.
In a split second all hell breaks loose and half the passengers start shouting hysterically and threatening people with knives and box cutters. They make their way towards the cockpit. 5 armed men enter the cockpit and give the crew the choice of being stabbed to death or to leave their seat immediately.
What do you do?
a) Jump up and take on 8 suicidal armed men with your fists?
b) Co-ordinate with your fellow passengers (if you are lucky enough to have more then a handful of men as fellow passengers) to try and retake control of the hijacked plane.
c) Freeze in utter panic and shock knowing you WILL die?
Now, what choice would you make? It's easy for us talking when we're behind our monitors. The fact is most of those planes didn't have much more then 40 passengers on them and a third were terrorists. The difference between terrorists and passengers is that the terrorists are a team and so are co-ordinated, passengers are not. Terrorists have a cause to die for. Passengers just want to get to destination.
Cut those people who died on Spetember the 11th some slack!
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Couldn't agree more Deja. Still hopin for a permanent squelch list.
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I think a permanent ban is needed for Dueso1
ATC
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Originally posted by FlyingDuckSittingSwan:
It's just nuts trying to speculate what you would have done. The fact is....you have no right to criticize those people on the plane who died.
Just another day....you get on a plane. Plane ride is routine and boring. Plane is nearly empty, 30 odd people. You take off your shoes, you relax.
In a split second all hell breaks loose and half the passengers start shouting hysterically and threatening people with knives and box cutters. They make their way towards the cockpit. 5 armed men enter the cockpit and give the crew the choice of being stabbed to death or to leave their seat immediately.
What do you do?
a) Jump up and take on 8 suicidal armed men with your fists?
b) Co-ordinate with your fellow passengers (if you are lucky enough to have more then a handful of men as fellow passengers) to try and retake control of the hijacked plane.
c) Freeze in utter panic and shock knowing you WILL die?
Now, what choice would you make? It's easy for us talking when we're behind our monitors. The fact is most of those planes didn't have much more then 40 passengers on them and a third were terrorists. The difference between terrorists and passengers is that the terrorists are a team and so are co-ordinated, passengers are not. Terrorists have a cause to die for. Passengers just want to get to destination.
Cut those people who died on Spetember the 11th some slack!
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Sorry FlyingDuckButt, but I think your missing a few things.
For one, you can't give slack to the dead. I do however, hold much respect for them.
Two, yes, I get up and at least try to kick their tulips with my bare hands. I remember a story on the news during the past year where a man went nuts because of a physical condition. The passengers sub dued and eventually killed the man because he was a threat.
Three, if there is time, YES I would plan with my fellow passengers, perhaps even lead them in a charge.
When my destination is no longer reachable due to some terrorist with a knife or bomb, then you think I'm going to close my eyes and accept their destination as my final stop?
Our culture seems to suggest that our governments will/should be able to protect us. No Way!
When your hand is forced, only you get to decide what to do. I for one won't die easy, because bleeding or burning, I know I'm going to die. Might as well do it my way.
The beautiful souls, that died in Penn. that day, are a perfect testiment to this ideal. They probably saved more lives than they lost. I salute them!
We must get rid of this rediculous need to cower into a corner and learn to stand up for ourselves. This is how our country became great. We stood up, held the flag, and kicked the bully where it counts.
To the others...
I'm sorry I haven't see the guy this thread is about, and I have obviously made a mistake in saying to cut the guy some slack.
Kick his ass!
Viper
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I dont think you know what you're talking about SkyViper.
Lets say you're on a plane. Terrorists take over. You lead a "charge" (like you said) and manage to crash the plane.
Fine, you're dead, terrorists dead etc..
Let's say that instead of leading a "charge" you stayed in your seat. The terrorists were not muslim fundamentalists but all they wanted was to protest against the depletion of the rain forest. They forced the plane to land at the nearest airpoprt and after 3 hours of negotiations with the local SWAT team, they decide that they've made their point and give themselves up.
well done genius, you've just killed yourself!
The fact is that prior to September the 11th, practically all hijackings resulted in the plane landing and negotiating with the proper authorities.
Even the infamous TWA hijackings in Lebanon and they were also Islamic Fundamentalists.
How about the Afghan Airlines plane which was hijacked and forced to land at a London airport last year? They were asylum seekers.
So its all fine and dandy talking after the fact.
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Originally posted by Shooter:
I don't usualy think we need to over police our members, most of us can have a good time and engage in a little banter but still treat each other like adults, however "Deuso1" comments about airline pilots being rutabagas for letting terrorists take over the controls went way beyond what we should tolerate. we lost thousands of good people that day and I lost 350 FF brothers-I don't appreciate anyone making lite of it-Shooter
In spite of the "hate all things AW" mentality that some folks here have, this guy is a perfect opportunity for an AW style "hell hunt".
Some of th old guys here will remember Hell and the original Hell Hunt. When someone has reached the point that Hell or this clown Deus01 has they can be made to understand that they are unwanted scum.
All it takes is for his countrymen to vector everyone else to him anytime he's bold enough to leave the tower. Squelch him th rest of th time.
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I thought this might be fitting:
The following is from a letter by a professional friend and her return flight to D.C. this week.
"I just wanted to drop you all a note and let you know that I arrived safe and sound into Dulles Airport tonight [9/15] at about 6:00. It was an interesting flight.
The airport in Denver was almost spooky, it was so empty and quiet. No one was in line for the security check point when I got there so that went fairly quickly, just x-ray of my bags and then a chemical test to be sure nothing explosive was on them. Then I waited 2 1/2 hours to board the plane. What happened after we boarded was interesting and thought I would share it with you.
The pilot/captain came on the loudspeaker after the doors were closed. His speech went like this:
"First I want to thank you for being brave enough to fly today. The doors are now closed and we have no help from the outside for any problems that might occur inside this plane. As you could tell when you checked in, the government has made some changes to increase security in the airports. They have not, however, made any rules about what happens after those doors close. Until they do that, we have made our own rules and I want to share them with you.
Once those doors close, we only have each other. The security has taken care of a threat like guns with all of the increased scanning, etc. Then we have the supposed bomb. If you have a bomb, there is no need to tell me about it, or anyone else on this plane; you are already in control. So, for this flight, there are no bombs that exist on this plane.
Now, the threats that are left are things like plastics, wood, knives, and other weapons that can be made or things like that which can be used as weapons.
Here is our plan and our rules. If someone or several people stand up and say they are hijacking this plane, I want you all to stand up together. Then take whatever you have available to you and throw it at them. Throw it at their faces and heads so they will have to raise their hands to protect themselves.
The very best protection you have against knives are the pillows and blankets. Whoever is close to these people should then try to get a blanket over their head -- then they won't be able to see. Once that is done, get them down and keep them there. Do not let them up. I will then land the plane at the closest place and we WILL take care of them. After all, there are usually only a few of them and we are 200+ strong! We will not allow them to take over this plane.
I find it interesting that the US Constitution begins with the words "We, the people" -- that's who we are, THE people and we will not be defeated."
With that, the passengers on the plane all began to applaud, people had tears in their eyes, and we began the trip toward the runway.
The flight attendant then began the safety speech. One of the things she said is that we are all so busy and live our lives at such a fast pace. She asked that everyone turn to their neighbors on either side and introduce themselves, tell each other something about your families and children, show pictures, whatever. She said "for today, we consider you family. We will treat you as such and ask that you do the same with us."
Throughout the flight we learned that for the crew, this was their first flight since Tuesday's tragedies. It was a day that everyone leaned on each other and together everyone was stronger than any one person alone. It was quite an experience.
You can imagine the feeling when that plane touched down at Dulles and we heard "welcome to Washington Dulles Airport, where the local time is 5:40". Again, the cabin was filled with applause.
Last night I saw a program with college students where one of them said that at their campus there are no more hyphenated titles, i.e., African-American, etc., everyone is just an American. No one will ever be able to take that pride away from us. "
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Very touching and romantic Muck, but I think it's just fiction. Can you imagine the pilot making such a speech? :D I've never heard the pilot say more then two words. Also, when he does say something, I cant even understand him cos those speaker systems are crap.
If a pilot did make that speech, he would have been sanctioned and poissibly sacked. Also I found some things which don't add up.
1)In the "story" the person says the airport was completely empty, yet then says the plane was full to capacity with over 200 people. Hmmm
2)I think the pilot would have known that they have placed air marshals on all internal US flights. So saying "we are alone once those dors are shut" is rubbish anyway.
3)Pilots are expressly forbidden to say things which could cause panic or distress to the passengers. Mentioning a bomb and saying "If you have a bomb, there is no need to tell me about it, or anyone else on this plane; you are already in control..." is just ridiculous. NO pilot would ever say something like that. You can imagine some people would panic if he did.
Nice story though. But that's all it is...a story :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
[ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: FlyingDuckSittingSwan ]
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Sorry Duck, but I'm inclined to believe the Washington Times and the Associated Press, before you. Check out www.snopes2.com, (http://www.snopes2.com,) under the heading Rumors of War, and you will see this is a confirmed event. Read on:
Origins: This piece apparently began its Internet life on 19 September 2001 when it appeared in inboxes as an anonymous e-mail and was posted to a number of newsgroups as an "I received this in e-mail this morning" post. In that textual form (the one most widely circulated within the online community and used as the example text quoted) above, the story appears to have been authored by an unnamed woman ("her return flight"). Some variations refer to her as a "professional friend" of yet another unnamed party who presumably is performing an additional round of forwarding.
On that same day, this tale was incorporated into a larger Washington Times article calling for a more proactive response from passengers in the face of a hijacking. The author of the Washington Times article, Peter Hannaford (identified in the piece as a public affairs consultant) used neutral voice throughout the account, thus avoiding directly stating that he'd either been witness to the events described or that this was someone else's story. Less-than-careful readers, however, would have been left with the impression that he was delivering a first-hand account of events he'd personally experienced.
All questions of authorship aside, did the described events take place? Was this a case of "what should have been said" rather than one of "what was said"? According to Associated Press, it is indeed a true story:
Kathy Rockel was amazed when her United Airlines flight last weekend began with an extraordinary message from the pilot: He informed passengers how to rise up and fend off hijackers . . .
"Everybody on the plane was applauding," said Rockel, a medical transcriptionist traveling from Denver to Washington, D.C., Sept. 15 on United's Flight 564. "People had tears coming down their faces. It was as if we had a choice here, that if something were to happen we're not completely powerless."
Also, Duck, you may want to note this was a domestic flight which took place just after the attacks of 9/11. TO this day, there are not Sky Marshals on every domestic flight.
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For one thing...your link is broken. There is no such web page.
Second thing,
Hmmmm...
When I hear the words:
"anonymous"
"e-mail attachment"
"associated press"
Don't believe everything you read in the newspapers. They write things to sell newspapers. How many people had died at WTC according to the newspapers? 60,000...oh no it's 50,000...oh no, it's 20,000 oh no it's 10,000 etc..
When was the last time you saw a newpaper make a mistake in the death toll of some distater by underestinating the casualties? They sensationalise...they've found it sells more newspaper years ago.
go here....info on sky marshalls (http://www.airdisaster.com/news/0901/wtc0918/news4.shtml)
and add to this I heard on CNN there was a Sky Marshall on every internal flight in the US. Also, why not put a Sky Marshall on every flight? Surely it costs less then repairing the Pentagon. Don;t you think.
I'm surprised though that there are people who are so gullable who would believe that story. :rolleyes:
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I've figured why your link didn't work, Muck. YOu didn;t type it properly.
Here is how it should be here (http://www.snopes2.com/)
The web page is called URBAN LAGENDS!!!!
Do you know what one is????
LOL...just proves my point. Thanks a lot. :rolleyes: :D
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Sorry, FDSS, but the tale of the airline pilot giving instructions on how to combat terrorists is actually true.
First of all, the website provided verifies it. See it here (http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/pilot.htm).
Secondly, NPR ran a wonderful piece about 1 1/2 months ago debunking a bunch of the myths surrounding the WTC attacks, and it was revealed that the pilot's instructions actually did occur. They then interviewed two passengers from the flight in question, and they verified that it happened.
So... don't believe everything you read, sure, but sometimes it's true too.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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You know what Duck, I think you'd garner alot more respect if you were not so condescending in your posts. You got out of your way to be insulting, and argumentative.
Try losing the little "rolling Eyes" icon on your posts.
If you want to belabor this increasingly ridiculous thread, you will see that the person who wrote the account IS NAMED. Try reading the entire post before you jump at it. Try reading the account on the webpage. Your a smart little cookie. Try this link:
http://www.snopes2.com/ (http://www.snopes2.com/)
Yes, the webpage is called Urban legends, and Rumors of War, but if you'd JUST BOTHER to read it through, the objective of this sight is to sift through what is fact and what is fiction.
It was determined that this story was factual, as indicated by the webpage.
Now, was I on that flight? No. Were you? No.
Can we be 100% sure it's true? No. Can we be 100% sure the sun will come up tomarrow? No.
Do I believe a credible source like the AP, and the Washinton Post over you. HELL YES!
I don't believe everything I read, either. That's why I don't believe there are Sky Mashals on every US domestic flight.
Where did these wonderous angels come from? We managed to train, and place several hundred Skymarshals in 2 months? We had about 2 dozen before Sept 11th.
As I said, believe what you want, and I'll do the same, but if your going to be an ass, expect plenty of the same both in game and out.
Oh wait, I forgot, you don't actually play AH, do you?
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It might be true and it might not be true...but so far, I haven't seen anything that proves it is.
That link doesn't prove anything, DMF, because we don't have passenger names, pilot name, flight number so no proof whatsoever. It's a myth. That web site about urban legends you'll find isn't really reliable in proving things.
Too me that story sounds very false, because apart from the discrepencies I've already said, you also have to wonder how that person would remember that long speech so well, and considering she wasn't expecting the pilot to make one, I doubt that the passenger would have a paper and pen ready to write it down or even have the inclination or foresight to do it. Another thing is that I doubt the pilot would risk his job...somehow
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Try reading the posts before you get all excited about debunking, Duck.
As quoted earlier in this thread:
Kathy Rockel was amazed when her United Airlines flight last weekend began with an extraordinary message from the pilot: He informed passengers how to rise up and fend off hijackers . . .
"Everybody on the plane was applauding," said Rockel, a medical transcriptionist traveling from Denver to Washington, D.C., Sept. 15 on United's Flight 564.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Saddle up on him, and give him about 100 "Check 6" calls ...or, call out his coordinates to other countries, we have the ability to control some behaviorial types ;)
Agreed!! It's time to begin Operation S.T.F.U.
This morning he's whining about his 56K dial-up being the reason he gets killed so much. His rank of 3,014th has nothing to do with it I guess <G>
btw S=shut
U=up
DmdMax
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Originally posted by FlyingDuckSittingSwan:
That link doesn't prove anything, DMF, because we don't have passenger names, pilot name, flight number so no proof whatsoever. It's a myth. That web site about urban legends you'll find isn't really reliable in proving things.
Did you miss the part about NPR actually interviewing passengers on this flight? The entire gist of the NPR report 1 1/2 months ago about this was that, surprisingly, it was for real. And they had a number of passengers from the flight corroborate it.
However, you're right about ever-shifting details on the Internet. It's as if the Internet is the worst "through the grapevine" form of communications out there. You can send one e-mail asking someone to buy some milk at the store on the way home from work, and somewhere, 1500 people down the line, it becomes a story of a suspected case of mad cow disease.
This one's for real though.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by FlyingDuckSittingSwan:
Very touching and romantic Muck, but I think it's just fiction. Can you imagine the pilot making such a speech? :D I've never heard the pilot say more then two words. Also, when he does say something, I cant even understand him cos those speaker systems are crap.
If a pilot did make that speech, he would have been sanctioned and poissibly sacked.
[ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: FlyingDuckSittingSwan ]
FlyingDuck, tell me how many planes have you flown on since Sept. 11th? Well I for one have probably been on over 20 different planes since that time. From 9/14-22 I personnally was on 12 different planes. I am not argueing whether this story is true or not, but on a few flights I have been on the pilot has spoken & given instruction as to how the passengers can assist incase an incident arises. Now 200+ people on a plane during that period I find hard to believe. It was spooky how vacant all my flights were & how empty the airports were. But your statement that about pilots note giving any sort of special speeches or comments is Dead Wrong.
Anyway, about the reason of this post, ignore the guy & squelch him & he will go away quicker probably.
BgMAW
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This is in line with that pissant Orel's "Silly Americans" post on 9/11. That jerk hasn't been hunted down, so why start here. Maybe because Orel is such a good stick - he is allowed to get away with it.
At least his squad dumped him....
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Originally posted by FlyingDuckSittingSwan:
The web page is called URBAN LAGENDS!!!!
Do you know what one is????
LOL...just proves my point. Thanks a lot. :rolleyes: :D
welp, you just proved the efficacy of those wonderful English schools. Either that, or morons abound. Which is it?
Tex
reading COMPREHENSION is PHUNdemental
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Wow, you found a typo texter. That must mean I'm totally ignorant, you're right.
Well, let's see. Considering you don't realize that "texter" should be "Texter", if I was you, I would hide myself behind something.
Also, may I add, that I come from the land of Dickens whereas you come from the land of Dixie. My favourite authors are Fyodor Dostoyevsky and Tom Clancy.
To presume someone is dumb just by one typo is pathetic.
:rolleyes:
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I think Duck pretending to be Kung-Fu master = Deus. Either that, or these guys are two of a kind.
Squelch on.
Yes, I can make the party. I'll bring the horse blanket.
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Greetings
Personally I must say i've been having a marvellous time reading FlyingDucks enormously entertaining posts.
I see nothing wrong with reassuring ones passengers and instilling in them the feeling of control over their aircraft and its destination.
In a similiar case in Australia last week:
A passenger jet minutes after takeoff loses its port engine, passengers see sparks and hear a loud bang.
Pilot in Command: "Ladies and Gentleman, we have experienced catastrophic engine failure"
:eek:
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Originally posted by FlyingDuckSittingSwan:
Wow, you found a typo texter. That must mean I'm totally ignorant, you're right.
Well, let's see. Considering you don't realize that "texter" should be "Texter", if I was you, I would hide myself behind something.
Also, may I add, that I come from the land of Dickens whereas you come from the land of Dixie. My favourite authors are Fyodor Dostoyevsky and Tom Clancy.
To presume someone is dumb just by one typo is pathetic.
:rolleyes:
I didn't assume. You proved it. And again, you have proved it. Also, I don't recall saying squat about typos. Are you really that clueless? Guess so. Let me try and explain. No, let me summarize. Reread the links and info posted with the idea that you're wrong and some folks actually know more than you. wow. tough huh?
btw-why lecture me on how to spell a nonexistent word? oh, another case of missing the point, my bad.
Also, you'll have a problem if you go down the "Texans are all stupid" path though I doubt you'll realize that either till it's way too late.
Tex
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Originally posted by texter:
Also, you'll have a problem if you go down the "Texans are all stupid" path though I doubt you'll realize that either till it's way too late.
Tex
You said that, not me. ;)
That there is one darn nasty inferiority complex you have, boy.
The only Texan I ever saw was at a London airport. I noticed he was Texan cos he was chasing his 10 gallon hat down the car park ramp.
It gets quite windy over here. :D
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Originally posted by Sky Viper:
I have asked myself often since Sept. 11, what would I have done.
There are many individuals in a free society who believe that a course of passive activity is the best means to a positive end.
Personaly, I don't agree.
I have a great deal of sorrow and respect for those lives that were lost that day, but I also hold some contempt that only 1 of the 4 planes missed it's target.
I am extremely proud of the men and women who stood up for themselves over Penn.
On the 2nd aircraft that hit the WTC, there was a woman who was talking on a cell phone. In an interview with the relation to whom she was speaking for 3 minutes prior to the 2nd crash, it was revealed that she conveyed the knowlege of the first crash and knew that she was going to suffer the same fate.
She feared the knives and believed that they had bombs.
I think it wrong for anyone to call any of them rutabagas! PERIOD
But, lets cut the guy some slack. We all have our own opinions and feelings. Better to teach him respect than to shun him for having a heart.
This ability is what makes us, Americans, GREAT.
Viper
Huh?
Let me guess, lets put this in perspective. When I got deployed while in the USAF, we were supposed to teach Iraq soldiers kindness and gentleness thru the ultimate belief that teaching them respect was the best way? Yes we do have our own opinions but some just do not know when to shut up. Speaking from the heart is not how you deal with certain individuals they will take it and laugh even more. I had 2 friends end up in the hospital at the Pentagon because of this and for that I am thankful. Social culturing will not help him. I think a good stake roast in the valley would though.
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I hope Deus01 didn't come across in the boat with the rest of us AW'ers. I tried to help this twit out with a question only to get caught up in one if his tantrums.
Don't judge us AW'er by this ass. Sure, we smell and like to raid the sheep pen but we do try to draw the line at such overt dweebism.
Ack-Ack
479th FG - Riddle's Raiders
Originally posted by DamnedATC:
I think a permanent ban is needed for Dueso1
ATC
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The pilot really did make the speech and was then punished for his words by whatever airline he flew for.
Originally posted by FlyingDuckSittingSwan:
Very touching and romantic Muck, but I think it's just fiction. Can you imagine the pilot making such a speech? :D I've never heard the pilot say more then two words. Also, when he does say something, I cant even understand him cos those speaker systems are crap.
If a pilot did make that speech, he would have been sanctioned and poissibly sacked. Also I found some things which don't add up.
1)In the "story" the person says the airport was completely empty, yet then says the plane was full to capacity with over 200 people. Hmmm
2)I think the pilot would have known that they have placed air marshals on all internal US flights. So saying "we are alone once those dors are shut" is rubbish anyway.
3)Pilots are expressly forbidden to say things which could cause panic or distress to the passengers. Mentioning a bomb and saying "If you have a bomb, there is no need to tell me about it, or anyone else on this plane; you are already in control..." is just ridiculous. NO pilot would ever say something like that. You can imagine some people would panic if he did.
Nice story though. But that's all it is...a story :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
[ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: FlyingDuckSittingSwan ]
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Originally posted by FlyingDuckSittingSwan:
You said that, not me.
Yeah, I said it, but I can't understand it for you.
Someone get some better quality minds in here please? Jesus H. Keerist on a crutch these folks are stupid.
Tex