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Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Ike 2K# on August 20, 2003, 10:11:34 PM
Before I buy IL-2 "Forgotten Battles", I need to ask a question... What do you think about IL-2 FB?
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Karnak on August 21, 2003, 12:10:56 AM
I like it, but I wish it was easier to configure joysticks for it and that I could figure out how to get it out of the 60hz refresh rate on Windows XP Pro.

Its fun to doodle around mindlessly against an AI now and then.  Less stressfull than AH, but also less rewarding when you succeed.

Oh yeah, it doesn't have a Mosquito Mk VI.  That is its biggest failing.
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: capt. apathy on August 21, 2003, 12:13:23 AM
it's a great game.

you need lots of ram (512mb minimum for xp, a gig is better)  you won't be able to run at full graphics without a top of the line vid-card, but even the mid range graphics I get on my 7200 radeon are breathtaking.

the multi-player is kind of a pain unless you have it pre-aranged with a group before hand.

the attention to detail is amazing and you will find more small things almost every time you fly.
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Siaf__csf on August 21, 2003, 12:52:55 AM
It's unplayable with 512Mb. It can take 1-2 second pauses in the middle of a turnfight (loading textures..)

I played it a dozen times after I got it, it's not good enough to validate another 512mb of ram (insert WW2OL joke here.)

And finally, it's made by russians so the historical aspect is how should I say, 'jilted' a little bit.
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on August 21, 2003, 01:11:29 AM
Runs fine here:

AMD XP 2000+ (~1.6Ghz)
GeForce 4 Ti4200 64MB (45.23 drivers)
768MB PC133 SDRAM
Win98

If you have a GeForce card, you need to disable Texture Precache and enable Texture Directload via Rivatuner. This only matters on the Finland map though.

As far as the jilted Russian POV... tards come in all shapes and sizes, German planes perform very well. If you can't beat down a human controlled Russian plane, I'd venture a guess its because you have no idea what you are doing.

Its a good game, FM and DM are real nice. Sound is a little buggy right now, but there is a patch on the way to fix it up.

It all depends on what you expect from it Ike. AH online playability? Only one server I've found that offers that, but its more like the CT and probably has just as many players in it (max 29). A new front, several new types of planes very few games have modelled...

I'd recommend it, the only boxed air combat games I haven't bought are jets or the CFS series.
-SW
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: capt. apathy on August 21, 2003, 01:29:12 AM
one thing I forgot to add.  

damage model is great,  20+ hit zones on the engine alone
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Staga on August 21, 2003, 02:30:08 AM
Dust and mist (http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/grab0011.jpg) after the plane when it's flying low is neat :)
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Dowding on August 21, 2003, 04:22:20 AM
Is that the nurse doing her med rounds I hear? Not long now Joe.

It's a game, you fool.
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: -tronski- on August 21, 2003, 06:39:37 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
Is that the nurse doing her med rounds I hear? Not long now Joe.

It's a game, you fool.


lol

 I have FB and it's alot of fun, the eye candy is the best around bar none...

 Tronsky
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Pooh21 on August 21, 2003, 06:49:17 AM
How long til they put in a flyable Ju-88a4, and 87G?
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Westy on August 21, 2003, 06:56:07 AM
Joesmoe,

 


 Babushka!

 Let me tell you what I seeee...


     Sometime in the not too distant future ...  


....before your ...  ..it's cloudy.  I'm trying to make it out...
 

....It's coming clear.  Ahhh yes!  It' will be on your 15th birthday.


...you're unwrapping a present. Yesssss...



 OH MY :(


.... It's "WWIIOnline: Eastern Front"


....and you suddenly fall to the floor stricken with a massive aneurism!
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Dowding on August 21, 2003, 07:07:05 AM
lol

Not the Eastern Front!!! Anything but that!!!
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Dowding on August 21, 2003, 07:08:35 AM
Aww shucks. He deleted it or had it deleted for him. It was quite funny in a 'One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest' sort of way.
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Blank on August 21, 2003, 10:40:01 AM
Karnak

try this if you haven't:

for ex say you want to play FB at 1600x1200@85htz res

make sure fb res set to 1600x1200 can do this in game. then exit to desktop

1:set destop res to 1600x1200@85htz
2:then start  fb again
and hopefullt fb will be running at 85htz

this works for me, if I dont set my desktop res first It defaults to 60htz  

eukk! headache city :)

asus a7n delux mobo
512mb pc3200 400mhz
asus XP 2400+
Hercules radeon 9700pro 128mb vid card

get around 60fps in dx
get 25-50 opengl with perfect settings
Title: Re: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Hristo on August 21, 2003, 10:46:33 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ike 2K#
Before I buy IL-2 "Forgotten Battles", I need to ask a question... What do you think about IL-2 FB?



just buy it
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Batz on August 21, 2003, 10:49:16 AM
Ju 87g is flyable.

If you cant beat a russian plane flying a 109 in Fb you just suck.

Its fun game. I avoid DF servers with the scripts running. Those are the only ones that real give me "pauses".

The online wars are fun.

Fb still has some issues after the last patch, none are game killers.

Il2/Fb isnt necesarily an online game. Its a box sim with an online aspect. Like any box game that you play online you need to find servers and groups of people to fly with. I believe Oleg said only about 10% of those who bought IL2/Fb did so to play online.

90% of the problems folks have online is because of a crappy host.

I guess i missed joes post :p
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Siaf__csf on August 21, 2003, 10:51:34 AM
Akswulf: It's jilted because the A.I. doesnt give any challenge whatsoever they fly mostly passive even with max difficulty settings.

It's jilted because I saw half of wartime FAF go down in a single battle.. If the casualties would have been that bad airwar would have ended in 3 days. The wingmen are total cannonfood. The wingmen are the only thing flying worse than a.i. enemy.

"If you can't beat down a human controlled Russian plane, I'd venture a guess its because you have no idea what you are doing. "

I guess I have an idea with a few thousand kills on AH under my belt, one tour ranked 1 on both fighter and jabo.
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on August 21, 2003, 11:52:07 AM
Historic aspect being jilted has nothing to do with AI, in fact the two are not mutual... especially since the AI is a global construct. Saying the historic aspect being jilted indicates you believe there is a bias, which you have yet to actually prove... or anyone who has claimed that anywhere has yet to prove.

Hate to break it to ya, but there is no bias with the AI... all AI sucks, regardless of the game. FBv1.0 they were too hard, now they are too soft. You win some, you lose some.

I guess I have an idea with a few thousand kills on AH under my belt, one tour ranked 1 on both fighter and jabo.

Good for you! I mean it, maybe with that you can go out and get a high paying job someday... but it still doesn't mean you know what you are doing, except that you know how to play the scores to your favor. Ranking means nothing.
-SW
Title: Re: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: udet on August 21, 2003, 11:58:43 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ike 2K#
Before I buy IL-2 "Forgotten Battles", I need to ask a question... What do you think about IL-2 FB?



if your system is not top-notch, I suggest you buy the original Il2 Sturmovik. If you haven't played either, there's some pretty good demos to download for Il2, it'll give an idea what FB will look and feel like.
In fact, the demos have a bunch of aircraft and the option to set up dogfights so u might not need to buy the game after all.
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Ike 2K# on August 21, 2003, 12:09:25 PM
Does it take too much effort to operate a plane in IL-2 FB? I heard that you have to set up the supercharger to the next stage manualy.
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on August 21, 2003, 12:12:39 PM
You can turn that option off if you don't want to mess with it, or you can fly German which has everything automatic.
-SW
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Batz on August 21, 2003, 12:45:11 PM
Ai isnt possive except on the lower settings. Even so this is new since the patch. Vet and higher AI flies exactly the same as before the patch.

Ai would ho you quicker then a chog pilot in the main.  And snipe you off with incredible shots. That was a huge complaint after FB  1st was released.

Either you are flying IL2 original or the demo.

I guess you could make us a track of you of killing one of the aces.
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on August 21, 2003, 01:22:02 PM
Just for the heck of it, I ran a QMB setup at 2000 meters on the Smolensk map. Me in 109G2 vs Ace level Pokryshkin (or however thats spelled) in his P39N-1.

You may have to copy the link below into the Address bar to download the file. Its about 40kb zipped.
http://www.geocities.com/weissdr1/QMB109G2vsP39.zip
-SW
Title: Re: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: SunKing on August 21, 2003, 02:21:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ike 2K#
Before I buy IL-2 "Forgotten Battles", I need to ask a question... What do you think about IL-2 FB?


All the threads posted on Il-2 and you still have to ask this question?
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Bartok on August 21, 2003, 04:53:02 PM
Athlon XP 1700
Radeon 9500 pro
512mb RAM

The game runs well at the highest settings in 1024x768.  It can run with "perfect" setting (that was added in a recent patch) easily, but ground textures get all screwed up, so I just have it on excellent.
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: SKurj on August 21, 2003, 05:21:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Siaf__csf
It's unplayable with 512Mb. It can take 1-2 second pauses in the middle of a turnfight (loading textures..)

I played it a dozen times after I got it, it's not good enough to validate another 512mb of ram (insert WW2OL joke here.)

And finally, it's made by russians so the historical aspect is how should I say, 'jilted' a little bit.


Hmm runs lovely for me with 512mb...

Ran great with XP1900+ 512mb SDRam and a gf4 mx, runs even better with a GF4ti 4200


SKurj
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Bluedog on August 22, 2003, 03:27:20 AM
Runs pretty good on my crappy geforce2 32 meg and 256meg of ram, 1800 Athlon.
Everything set on maximum flashiness except terain on excellant, not perfect.

Cool game, best boxed sim out there to date, bar none.IMHO
Loads of planes, heaps of differant loadouts, and LOTS of stuff to shoot at on the ground, in the water, and in the air.
Great sound, awesome damage model and graphics, realistic cockpits. SEARCHLIGHTS :) and a reasonably good mission builder/ editor (the FMB that is, the QMB is about as good as there has ever been for whacking up a quick fight to order)
More planes OTW too.

Try the demo for IL2 if you like what you find, you will love FB.
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Dowding on August 22, 2003, 03:38:18 AM
Il-2 FB bored me after a couple of days, as most boxed sims do. Shame it isn't massively multiplayer.
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Pei on August 22, 2003, 05:08:15 AM
Il2:FB is a great game. The attention to detail is amazing.
I especially like the damage model: it feals very "real" to me.
It has it's dodgy points of course and it is difficult to find a good online game unless you get involved in the online wars. A lot of people find gunnery difficult, and it is harder than AH, but you need to remeber to trim your a/c correclty (no combat trim): that makes shooting amuch easier.

Generally speaking I play il2:FB when I feel like flying but don't feel up to the effort of playing AH :)
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Pooh21 on August 22, 2003, 06:06:20 AM
What about that funky gyration? I cant hit anything past 500 cause of it. But when I jump in the tail position of my Il-2 or Stuka, I can track the bad guy all they way in from 600.
Title: questions on IL-2 "Forgotten Battles"
Post by: Chaos68 on August 22, 2003, 07:34:57 AM
I just bought the game last week, i updated the game with the new patch and now have nothing but PROBLEMS!

my esc key wouldnt work, my desktop mouse now shows through the game which wont let me look 360 degrees.  The patch really screwed up my game.


Other then that its fun.

only thing i dont like is how long it takes to fly to the action.