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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: daddog on August 22, 2003, 02:25:09 PM
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Unless you going to release AHII this week, then don't bother I know your busy. ;)
I started back to work this week so I need something to make me smile. How is that new P-38 version coming along? ;)
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no kidding. Just give us a sign! A shoe! A gourd! A juniper bush!
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Updating the FAQ seems like it'd be a lot of work - its been neglected since, when, then end of January? That's a lot of questions and posts to sift through.
What I'd love is a short and simple paragraph every week that makes me feel like I'm in on the development of AH2:
"Folks, this week we played around with CD numbers in the flight model. Low speed testing shows the N1K and and Spit will behave much more realistically near the edge of their flight envelope. Artwise, the new plane skins are all done and the artists have started on cockpit artwork. These are going to be tedious, but we'll post screenshots as they are completed. We are still on target for an end of September release, but that could still be affected by a number of factors. We'll keep you posted."
Just seems to me like the benefit to the community would far outweigh the time invested in regular, informal updates...
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I like that idea oboe! :)
A weekly "Fireside Chat" with pyro. ;)
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Gotta send someone to Vegas to bring him back to the office first.......
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well they have done a good job of hiding their updates in messages, wish they could just make a quick note to us. Just some thing like "we are working on it, now leave us alone and send us your checks."
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Regular updates would go a long way toward keeping AH burnouts like me interested enough to stay around to see what AH2 has to offer.
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Yes...Cmon we pay for you, so show us something.
Give us reason to pay :rolleyes:
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I like that idea Oboe, and now that you mention it, I always get renewed vigor for playing whenever there's an update on the progress of AH2.
Once a week, maybe once every two weeks would be more than sufficient IMHO.
Right now IMO it's as if there's no connection to the community. Sure there's been posts from HT but 90% of the time I have no idea what he's talking about due to the technical nature (rockets weather vaning into the wind et al)
I'd like to see more screenshots (HT I think did this) and/or development updates, something along the lines of what Pyro did sometime back.
I'm sure most people would appreciate this as well, especially this close to the release of AH classic if that's what even being released in this 3rd quarter.
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I know some people are gonna start the ole' "Well if they release some news now, you'll all just want more." This really wasn't the case after the convention movies and pictures, because everyone was "OmfG tihs game is gona r0x0r" for another month. :D
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Yeah, and for you guys that didnt go to the convention, did anybody tell you what the new tracers look like?
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Originally posted by ergRTC
Yeah, and for you guys that didnt go to the convention, did anybody tell you what the new tracers look like?
Nope, I'm hoping they look a little bit like the ones in Pearl Harbor. Yeah, yeah, I know :D
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Originally posted by ergRTC
Yeah, and for you guys that didnt go to the convention, did anybody tell you what the new tracers look like?
Like smoke instead of death lasers?
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oh better than that. smoke, and you can see the spiral in the smoke from the spin of the bullet/cannon round. It is beyond description it was so cool.
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Oboe, you're obviously in public affairs. Good idea.
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Does anyone remember the ****storm surrounding the early pics of the pizza map?
Hell, if I was HT I wouldn't even tell us what was coming until after it had been out a few months.
Folks beg for info, then piss about it as soon as they get it.
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Folks beg for info, then piss about it as soon as they get it.
so true...
sailor
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That's true in many cases, but I would hope that wouldn't make HTC decide to shelf community updates. The Pizza map was pretty controversial, as it marked complete break from realistic-looking terrains. I would think even negative feedback is useful to HTC, unless its just from a couple cranky individuals or is just downright nasty and/or baseless.
So far what little info we've gotten about AH2 seems to be very well received...
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All joking aside I think oboe hit it right on.
What I'd love is a short and simple paragraph every week that makes me feel like I'm in on the development of AH2:
Simple informal regular updates would be greatly appreciated by the community. I know I am not speaking for myself, I have heard this from a lot of other players I the last three months. Does not even have to be once a week, but even just once a month would valued.
Pyro please take 30 minutes this week and let us know how things are going.
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Yup, gotta agree with daddog. A simple paragraph would suffice. Waiting for updates never really bothered me but it's been so long since the last one I've almost forgotten about the excitement of AH; trying new planes/terrains etc. Just some news may just rekindle some of that! ;)
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I got it , everyone just stop payment to their AH account & maybe
just maybe, we'll get an update then ..of course we can all walk
away form AH anytime we want to ..right ? right ? r-i-g-h-t ?
oh Gawd ! I got to go fly! the force is too strong ! must kill Rooks
must kill Rooks :eek:
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Originally posted by Furious
...Folks beg for info, then piss about it as soon as they get it.
Err, not really :o . I haven't really seen any huge complaints about AHII itself so far. Most of the info has been pretty well received.
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bump !!! :D
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A regular frieday feed back or update on how AHII is coming alonge had been nice;).
NB: Its smart to use the communety for feedback, can save you some time and maybee help you guys out insted of changing to much things later on ;)
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Stop your whining and let em work, its done when its done. :D
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believe it or not, most other online games, like a good 80%, do that. Like take Star Wars Galaxies. Every week in the forums they do a "Friday Feature" about upcoming features being implemented in the game and bug fixes. like (this is not an actual example)
We understand that there have been many complaints about battlefields being bugged. We are looking into this, and a fix for this should be out by tuesday. As you all know, vehicles are to be implemented in the game soon. Yesterday, we tested a player riding a vehicle for the first time-these should be implemented by next month.
We are fixing many other bugs, but we have also made maintence costs on certain objects and machinery cheaper...(while this is not an actual quote, it usually goes on and on about what changes will be made in the next udpate, and what progress they made this week on major upcoming features)
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PUNT , acepilot2;).
Same goes for the IL2/FB , updates every friedays;)
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*punt*
It seems they think they will be damned if they do and damned if they don't. I can see why but it's the wrong thing. Making a reasonable attempt to keep folks informed and involved in the process would be all thats needed to maintain a sense of community and value.
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Off topic: erg, do you really like Spaceballs and that actor in your avatar?
I don't :)
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
Stop your whining and let em work, its done when its done. :D
I have heard no whines yet, just nice requests for a bone to be cast to the masses (you know the ones that pay for the sim).
I as well as others are into a big time case of burn out and could use the information to help us "hang in there".
I think this is a fair request, IMHO
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Originally posted by acepilot2
believe it or not, most other online games, like a good 80%, do that. Like take Star Wars Galaxies. Every week in the forums they do a "Friday Feature" about upcoming features being implemented in the game and bug fixes. like (this is not an actual example)
Yeah, but comparing a great game like AH to a mess like SWG isn't exactly going to hammer your point home. Who cares how often the SWG devs report on their recent changes when all they do is nerf, nerf, nerf while struggling to find a balance they should have locked down a long time ago, like, say, back in beta. When push comes to shove, the AH guys get the job done.
Patience people.
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Even something simple ...
HT: Been working with the particle effects this week, looking great though its a long process.
Super and Nate: Finishing touches on new la7 model
Pyro: Has he left his oiffice this week?
Doesn't seem like much to ask..
SKurj
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Punt Scootter, no whines here just a bone for us who pays to play this great game and who are realy looking forward to see some pictures or info on the futures for the upcoming AHII;)
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Always happens like this.
Someone will say "but we've had nothing in 8 months."
Then someone else will say "yeah we did, that screenshot of the new hanger."
and yet another will say "yeah but that was pants, full of superimposed pics of the guys and contained no useful information whatsoever."
And a 4th will add "What about that shot of a wing?"
Original will say "So? A shot of a wing in 8 months is good is it?"
Then another will chime in with "There was the interview....."
and the original poster will come back with "Yeah but it's full of simpering crap questions and vague answers that doesnt stave off the hunger for new info, honestly that interviewer must think the sun shines out of HTs backside. We've been promised a FAQ for 6 months with nothing doing, had zero dev updates, zero news, zero details and are expected to get by on 2 screenshots and a crappy movie.....a really crappy movie. Other companies give weekly updates waaah waaaah waaaah whinge, whine, whinge."
And then it'll degenerate into a flame fest with fanboi's on one side and HTC critics on the other until Skuzzy locks it.
Or maybe I'm completely wrong as usual and Pyro will get back from Vegas this morning and post a 10000 word update with more hard and fast details and facts than we could ever want.
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Originally posted by Swoop
Always happens like this.
Someone will say "but we've had nothing in 8 months."
Then someone else will say "yeah we did, that screenshot of the new hanger."
and yet another will say "yeah but that was pants, full of superimposed pics of the guys and contained no useful information whatsoever."
And a 4th will add "What about that shot of a wing?"
Original will say "So? A shot of a wing in 8 months is good is it?"
Then another will chime in with "There was the interview....."
and the original poster will come back with "Yeah but it's full of simpering crap questions and vague answers that doesnt stave off the hunger for new info, honestly that interviewer must think the sun shines out of HTs backside. We've been promised a FAQ for 6 months with nothing doing, had zero dev updates, zero news, zero details and are expected to get by on 2 screenshots and a crappy movie.....a really crappy movie. Other companies give weekly updates waaah waaaah waaaah whinge, whine, whinge."
And then it'll degenerate into a flame fest with fanboi's on one side and HTC critics on the other until Skuzzy locks it.
Or maybe I'm completely wrong as usual and Pyro will get back from Vegas this morning and post a 10000 word update with more hard and fast details and facts than we could ever want.
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looking for a point in here somewhere
:p
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Me? Make a point?
Never. I write for the Daily Mirror don't-cha-know.
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space balls is a great comedy.....
Comb the Desert!!!!!
mAY THE sWARTZ Be with You.....
Love BiGB
xoxox
YES MORE SCREEN SHOTS PLEASE...And F all of you that complain about new maps ect.....
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Not sure punting this one or any other topic will do much of anything. I am positive they are more than aware of the many requests for more info on AH-II. Only they could explain why they choose to remain mum but that would take as much, if not more, effort to post here than an update to AH-II would I imagine.
Sadly, it's as if they borrowed one of the really bad chapters from "How to Run (or not) an Online Venue" by Kesmai. In particular the part where it explains how to culture and grow indifference and non-interest in your player base. I hope they haven't gotten to, or even considered, the section on "How to Drive Your Loyal Player Base to the Desperate, Waiting Arms of Your Competition."
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I would like to think of myself as one of HTC more loyal customers considering the time and effort I put into building special events for about 3 years, but they have seriously dropped the ball on keeping the community informed on the progress of AHII. I think what oboe suggested
What I'd love is a short and simple paragraph every week that makes me feel like I'm in on the development of AH2:
is a excellent idea. Would be a lot less work than updating the FAQ and keep the community happy. Would not even have to be one a week. Once a month would be nice.
Yes I know a “lot” would be left out in the brief updates and they could not possibly cover it all, but that is not what I am asking for.
Better a snippet here and there than nothing for 6 months.
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PUNT DD;).
I started playing AH for about 3 years time And I knew DD is one off the moust loyal supporter and helper for the AH communety.
When I first started AH and when a new patch or update was IB I remember that it was more info and that the guys were more in the MA testing things out and also when releasing a patch or update on a earlyer stage to let us help out with bugg report and they fixed it ASAP when we played;). Maybee things have got more complex . as the above words:
What I'd love is a short and simple paragraph every week that makes me feel like I'm in on the development of AH2:
yep it was great and good to know you were alonge side giving feed back for the development team for a new patch or update. Ok maybee I was not the one that had such good ideas or feedback, but you backed up the guys who had :D
I considering my self for a loyal supporter for the AH game adn realy looking forward to a new big releas. But insted I drifting away to IL2/FB game with there exelent feed back on new updates every frieday and new things to come. But they have not the GREAT Communety the AH have and its multy play and communication via voice and tx it have when playing who makes a big diffrent in game play;).
No real whine but some frustration tho;)
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Well, that does it for me, folks. I’ve never bothered to register with the bulletin board system, but figured that I would do so tonight to post one single message to the HTC staff. (I couldn’t even register under my flying name (already taken), but as you will see, that really doesn’t matter now.)
I’ll not waste much of your time, but I just want the staff and other players to know that when I selected ‘Lost Interest’ as my reason for canceling my account – my feelings can be summed up fairly well by reading through this thread.
Aces High is a good game, and I’ve been looking forward to AHII for quite some time now. Unfortunately, the fact that the staff can’t take five minutes to give us a heads up has bothered me for a while. They’re obviously aware of the growing sentiment (as evidenced by this thread) among the players that /any/ news is better than no news. And yet they still don’t bother to accommodate the very folks that are responsible for their livelihoods.
I could rant and rave, but everything has already been said in this thread. I’m sure a lot of folks will consider this post to be a pathetic whine, and I suppose it is in some ways. Regardless, I just wanted the staff to know that they’ve lost at least one player because of their deliberate ignorance of the community’s desires.
Maybe I’ll venture around in a few weeks to see if things have gotten better, and if they have, I’ll likely fork over my money to play again. But, until then, I don’t think the folks at the helm of HTC deserve my money – regardless of the amount.
Good luck.
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Originally posted by sicko
...Maybe I’ll venture around in a few weeks to see if things have gotten better, and if they have, I’ll likely fork over my money to play again. But, until then, I don’t think the folks at the helm of HTC deserve my money – regardless of the amount...
Did this pouting thing work with your mom at the toy store when you were growing up?
...and why waste a melodramtic goodbye only to, as you say, "venture round in a few weeks"? Its cheeze.
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Every day I read these message boards.
I used to look forward to the discussions but now they just make me sad. :(
Although I really want to believe that threads like this one don't deserve a response from HTC, the absolute silence from HTC is taking its toll on me.
I don't see how a comment from HTC saying something to the effect of "don't worry, we're still seriously working on AH2" would hurt, or maybe someone else can answer that question for me.
Nevertheless, I'll still be holding my breath until September 30th. :)
Regards to all,
Schutz
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I think it's natural to feel a little frustrated if someone intentionally ignores you.
I wonder what would happen if you didn't speak to your spouse, co-workers or clients; answer any questions or even acknowledge they exist for about 6 months? :D
Or, do you think HTC is getting the Microsoft 'We-got-you-pathetic-addicts-by-the-short-hairs' big head?
Or, maybe they just want to create some suspense and surprise everyone with a great new update?
Or, maybe it ain't goin' quite as good as they hoped?
Hey... I have a suggestion, but it will only work if 90%+ of customers participate:
After AH2 is out, say nothing about it here -- good or bad,
- No 'WTG!'
- No 'Great Job!'
- Nothing, nada, zenzen, not a bloody peep about it. Just download as required, play and say nothing at all for about 6 months.
- No bug reports.
- No suggestions for improvement.
- No whines about any part of it.
Now that would be fun. Anyone want to make the pledge?
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Originally posted by Herr Milde
Every day I read these message boards.
I used to look forward to the discussions but now they just make me sad. :(
Although I really want to believe that threads like this one don't deserve a response from HTC, the absolute silence from HTC is taking its toll on me.
I don't see how a comment from HTC saying something to the effect of "don't worry, we're still seriously working on AH2" would hurt, or maybe someone else can answer that question for me.
Nevertheless, I'll still be holding my breath until September 30th. :)
Regards to all,
Schutz
Ya I feel you pain,,
Yet it goes on with nothing, I really don't understand HT was not like this in the past. I think we have asked in a nice way for just an update of "OUR GAME" come on Dale throw us a Darn bone here. !!!!!
Regards
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Simple informal regular updates would be greatly appreciated by the community. I know I am not speaking for myself, I have heard this from a lot of other players I the last three months. Does not even have to be once a week, but even just once a month would valued Yep.
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We all know HTC isn't going to open their mouthes till its time to release. Especially this close. They would be flooded and waste to much time on the bbs.
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Oops,
Before projecting doom and gloom, I should have read the following message from TheFox on Aug 30th:
"Spoke to Skuzzy in the MA yesterday - he confirmed 3rd Qtr release for the Beta version - so at worse, we only have a few weeks before we all know exactly what is going to be in AHII."
That'll do it for me! :)
Cheers,
Schutz
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Bump !
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Good to see you drill! :) How you doing these days?
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daddog... doing as well as i can i guess hehe thx ....just any day im waiting for new's bought AH2 ,... :( >>hint hint .......:D ....have good days and some not so hot ...seems to the norm lately .... look forward to flying ... agin :)
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Thinking about this issue practically, it seems to me that it would be in Pyro's/HTC's best interest to expose us to the new features etc, of AH2 before putting up the download. Otherwise we'll have a blizzard of questions/reactions to the new features the same day we have a blizzard of questions/reactions regarding downloading/installing the new software.
Maybe these two inevitable storms would be best dealt with separately, rather than trying to weather both at the same time?
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PUNT
Still shame that no info is out.
Realy looking forward to AH tho;)
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relax
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Just found out some news for ya GA
its not out yet..lol
hope to see you guys when CAP is back in play
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He he thx for the info Sarge;).
You always welcome to fly with us Sarge SALUTE;)
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bumping for the update vote...
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Aces High 2:TOD will be out within 2 weeks..........its has to be, otherwise it would be late.
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I bet the lack of information is because they don't want the whinning to start until AH2 is actually released.
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The best single piece of info they could provide would be an updated set of system requirements.
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That may not be easy if they havent completed the coding......dunno.
Id like that to tho
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I take the silence to be a good thing. In the past they have seemed to be the most quiet when they are about ready to release. (I don't know why, maybe because they are busy with last minute details?)
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Originally posted by BenDover
Aces High 2:TOD will be out within 2 weeks..........its has to be, otherwise it would be late.
No it won't be late if it isn't released at the end of the month. All it means is that they missed their hoped for target date. They never said it would be released in Q3, they've only said they hope[/b] to get it out by Q3.
ack-ack
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You people kill me ... stamping your feet and demanding some sort of communication from HTC and staff. Yes we pay them ($14.95/month) for our enjoyment and the use of their service, but thats the end of it ... we enjoy ... they get paid. All is even. You people act like they owe us something.
Answer me this ...
When was the last time you had a private or public conversation/email/BBS post with Bill Gates as to the direction of windows and whats in store for the next release of his operating system or any other microsoft product ?
If you haven't heard from him as of late, will you be formatting your hard drive sometime soon and installing linux ?
... I didn't think so.
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Spot on Slapshot..
You pay for the current product, not for the next.
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I posted:
Pyro AH2 FAQ update?
Unless you going to release AHII this week, then don't bother I know your busy. :)
I started back to work this week so I need something to make me smile. How is that new P-38 version coming along? :)
And you replied:
You people kill me ... stamping your feet and demanding some sort of communication from HTC and staff.
You call that stamping feet and demanding ? Get a grip. You think there is something wrong with asking for a FAQ update?
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Yes we pay them ($14.95/month) for our enjoyment and the use of their service, but thats the end of it ... we enjoy ... they get paid. All is even. You people act like they owe us something.
That's a really crapy way to look at as far as customer service is concerned. And HTC prides themselves on their customer service record.
Originally posted by Nilsen10
You pay for the current product, not for the next.[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily.
"It's the most diverse virtual arsenal available to players in this genre and it's constantly growing through frequent updates."
I think you guys are looking at it all wrong. It's not about giving the client the bare minimum, it's about making as many as reasonably happy as possible.
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Well Thrawn..
From what i have understood AH2 is a NEW product, not an "update"
Ergo, if it was an update within AH i would agree with you..
I may be wrong about this, but it would be nice if HTC would clarify if its considered a new product or an update.
SKUZZY !!!!!!! HITECH !!!!! :D
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It's not about giving the client the bare minimum, it's about making as many as reasonably happy as possible.
Think you have a good point there Thrawn.
I think we have to see that we have diffrent views on things and we have to respect that.
But why HTC have not come out with more info regarding the upgrade regarding PC spesification or grapich engine, sound, damage calculation, options on diffrent things etc. regarding the new AHII, will we probely find out when it comes.
But I think its my and others paying coustumors privilegium to think that its a bit odd that no more info on the above have been released. But this is again HTC privilegium to handle as they see fits.
I am just a paying coustemour like 1000 of others who pays these guys and for there future upcoming patches and upgrades for this game. Hmmm I like that line :D
And I have to say that I respect HTC and the team and can understand that it is difficult to pleas every bodye when its come to new patches or upgrades. And that it is werry hard to take when you have spent months on programming and worked your butt off by fine tuning it and finaly relase it and some pilots/people whine on it. I can understand the frustration. But then again this is what it takes to make a game or be a programmer i think.
NB: I just sow a BBS post at IL2/FB regarding some miner changes the Madox team had done when adding the 190 aim marker in the cockpit, it had 987 post on this, so yes I understand it can be tuff some times for the game makers;).
I just see when I work on my squad website and think I have done a great job on some upgrades and I get flammed by my squad mates;).
I can understand HTC :D.
Bottom line this is no whine to HTC, just a pilot point of view and my egeer to realy looking forward to the releas of AHII. And hoping for some candy now and then intil it gets out:).
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I'm as anxious as anyone else to see and try AH-II. As a matter of fact my continued subscription to AH hinges on it being a major step forward for AH.
But supposedly my "rights" as a subscription paying customer are limited to the use of the existing product and nothing else, as it was put so uneloquently above?
Well then, duh! But that's a double edged sword dude. For if that is the way things are then I have to figure into my subscription the value that my time and abilities are worth when the time comes for HTC to ask customers to test and report bugs in the beta. And IMO just how well HTC kept the customer base informed and involved just might effect players eagerness (mine anyway) to help out.
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Do you all suggest HTC not care about us?:D
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"Do you all suggest HTC not care about us?"
Well. I could be wrong and perhaps the reason for the lack of news and updates is that the corporate suits are telling them they should keep thier keyboards quiet and forbid thier discussing AH-II with the community. ;)
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Originally posted by daddog
I posted:
And you replied:
You call that stamping feet and demanding ? Get a grip. You think there is something wrong with asking for a FAQ update?
:rolleyes:
"Get a grip." ... LOL
Nothing wrong with asking ... demanding (actively or passively) or I will quit is a whole other story.
Send a note to Bill Gates either asking or demanding that he tell you what is in store for the next release/patch to "Combat Flight Simulator" or you won't buy it, and when you get the response, please attach it to a post for all to see.
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Send a note to Bill Gates either asking or demanding that he tell you what is in store for the next release/patch to "Combat Flight Simulator" or you won't buy it, and when you get the response, please attach it to a post for all to see.
1. What have Bill gates to do with AHII?
2. And Im quiet sure that Bill Gates did not code "Combat Flight Simulator" and who play that game anyhow, so why bring this guy up every time?
Lets stay in our back yard and disquess our game AHII and not blame it on Bill Gates, or others for that sakes;).
3. Maybee the closet I can think off to compare AHII as a online multi player flightsim regarding the point here on feed back is probely WBII and IL2/FB, and probely some others tho.
But I know IL2/FB rather good on there exelent feed back on updates on new planes, patches or even new game engine in the future releas of the game.
Dont know why I posted this post, but that Bill Gates dude had to be comment on;)
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So you say - HTC not care about us, not update FAQ and not keep good feedback with players, because Bill Gates not care about us too?
Should we feel lucki as Il2/FB players are. If HTC will fix every bug after 6 months, like thay have? And keep good feedback with us for this price?
j/k ;)
Maybe we should send ultimatum to HT?
If HTC not relase AH2 in 6 days i will quit. huh?
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If HTC not relase AH2 in 6 days i will quit. huh?
Give em a couple weeks at least. ;)
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Originally posted by Drunky
I bet the lack of information is because they don't want the whinning to start until AH2 is actually released.
I think that train left the station quite a while ago.
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Originally posted by GA
1. What have Bill gates to do with AHII?
2. And Im quiet sure that Bill Gates did not code "Combat Flight Simulator" and who play that game anyhow, so why bring this guy up every time?
Lets stay in our back yard and disquess our game AHII and not blame it on Bill Gates, or others for that sakes;).
3. Maybee the closet I can think off to compare AHII as a online multi player flightsim regarding the point here on feed back is probely WBII and IL2/FB, and probely some others tho.
But I know IL2/FB rather good on there exelent feed back on updates on new planes, patches or even new game engine in the future releas of the game.
Dont know why I posted this post, but that Bill Gates dude had to be comment on;)
Bill Gates has nothing to do with AH but he owns a company that write and sells software and online services in the same vein as HTC.
Bill Gates doesn't write the software and it really makes no difference that HiTech codes or not ... they both are the owner and CEO of their company.
With that in mind, you are whining, stamping your feet, and threating to quit, because the CEO of a software development company will not divuldge trade secrets before they are released to the general public for use.
Again ... (using the CEO platform) send some emails to Bill Gates and see how far it gets ... threaten to not buy Microsoft products anymore ... I sure that Bill will respond immediately when threatened.
I think the same holds true to HiTech and HTC. Threatening to quit will never garner a response. Those who threaten and stamp their feet demanding something is not really a customer that one would not want. They are the CONSTANT pain in the ass. I'd say ... off with ya then.
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He he, ok Bill Gates it is then :)
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hmmmm i think a ceo that has billions of dollars has a bit more leverage on not caring about what some peole say and can shrug off a guy not wanting to buy a MS product. But a growing company has to be more customer friendly dont have to tell secrets but most just want to see a pic here and there and a few lines of text saying somehting , other than post of people not having a clue of what they are doing in HTC but post anyway, it is too late now to complain it is almost that time for it to come out anyway, i waited months so a few more days wont hurt me
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"hmmmm i think a ceo that has billions of dollars has a bit more leverage on not caring about what some peole say and can shrug off a guy not wanting to buy a MS product."
You have a point there, HiTech is not a billionaire, but after meeting and speaking with HiTech at this years con, my impression would be that he is not the type to bend to these types of demands and if he lost 30 * $14.95 because he and HTC have not been as forthcoming with news as some would want, he would not lose any sleep over it, nor would their bank accounts suffer.
Like I said before, those types really aren't the one that you really want to keep. Nothing but problems.
Also, if you went to the con, HiTech was available the whole time for any and all questions presented. Alot were asked and all were answered.
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BREAKING NEWS!!!! I managed to videotape a top secret conversation between hitech and skuzzy. However, right as it was getting to the juicy stuff, I fell off the balcony of the neighboring house I had been videotaping out and broke 16 bones. However, I still managed to get this video! (http://www.fanta.dk/showmovie.asp?mid=36D3F290-853D-4901-A3F7-E3A5FBE14B7C)
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I remember back when flying AW and FA 1.5 the antisipation was the same about when FA2 would be out.
I hope it comes out soon like everyone else but I also hope that they didn't rush, and it was at least partially debugged upon release.
Some of us got to beta FA2 and that helped alot, both in debugging and releasing progress reports to the 1.5ers.
All said, worrying about the release date only frustrates me, so I try not to think much about it.
Guse
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ROFL Acepilot2 :D
When can we expect the next video? ;)
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lol Acepilot2 ;)
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Hmm.. are there still people that does not understand that HTC will provide the aswers when they feel the time is right? Do you think they do it just to piss off the customers??
If you just signed up then i can understand but if you have been here for a few months you should have figured it out by now.
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I guess I am slow.
Still hoping for some news, any tid bit pyro? :)
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And yet another punt. :)
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punt for your punt, this tweens looks loonly;)
im wonder why Pyro not spend half hour to write couple words
and make one or two screenshots:mad:
strange politics
HT prepare simething "special" , i HOPE
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
are there still people that does not understand that HTC will provide the aswers when they feel the time is right?
Yes, I don`t understand that. Just saw the huge interview on Wargamer and I wonder why this comunity, on this board, is not worth to hear some news first. Even is not worth to hear from HTC that there is some new interview.
That`s very strange politics. :confused:
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I am surprised also, but I am not in their shoes. Who knows what is going on and or being planned.
I just wish we were not in the dark for weeks on end so I keep asking.
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bump !!! would be nice to hear something