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Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: SaburoS on August 23, 2003, 04:19:51 PM: Somewhat expected a total anti-gun slant. It wasn't. It was more about how the media protrays our lives here in America that perpetuates an atmosphere of fear which our politicians and corporations help feed into and profit from.
It wasn't a great documentary, wasn't a bad one either.
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: Nash on August 23, 2003, 04:33:56 PM: INCOMING!
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: GRUNHERZ on August 23, 2003, 04:35:03 PM: Away!
Title: Re: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: Mickey1992 on August 23, 2003, 04:48:27 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SaburoS
It wasn't a great documentary....

Nope, not at all. Literally. :D
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: lord dolf vader on August 23, 2003, 04:49:25 PM: he was mean to moses !!!
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: Nilsen on August 23, 2003, 04:58:59 PM: Dont bowl at all so i dont have a clue....

Did Columbine have a good bowlingteam?
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Post by: funkedup on August 23, 2003, 05:04:05 PM: Fox News should sue him!
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: beet1e on August 23, 2003, 05:12:45 PM: I think he could have left out all the Lockheed-Martin stuff. He had enough material without including that.

Other than that, it was a worthy documentary - deserving of its Oscar.
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: Martlet on August 23, 2003, 09:57:55 PM: It was laughable.

Rachel Lucas sums it up pretty good here http://www.rachellucas.com/archives/000785.html#000785
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: MarkVZ on August 23, 2003, 10:23:33 PM: I attended elementary school with Eric Harris. Can't say I remember him though. I might rent it sometime because one of my friends told me that part of that movie doccuments a bit of the small town in Michigan that I grew up in. I guess I will do so despite having to sit through a few hours of BS to see it.
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: Yeager on August 23, 2003, 11:07:04 PM: I was at the vid store last night and actually picked it up (B4C)and read the back cover. Theres just nothing there that would be of any new value to me. Plus, like al franken, moore is a complete moron in the way he projects himself.

Next...............
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: BB Gun on August 24, 2003, 12:13:12 AM: Quote
Originally posted by beet1e
Other than that, it was a worthy documentary - deserving of its Oscar.

Except.....

Half of it was fiction. Can YOU tell which half? It wasn't a documentary - it was an editorial.

BB
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Post by: -tronski- on August 24, 2003, 12:36:30 AM: Quote
Originally posted by beet1e

Other than that, it was a worthy documentary - deserving of its Oscar.

I agree...

Tronsky
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: Hortlund on August 24, 2003, 02:37:00 AM: so what exactly was made up?
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Post by: Fatty on August 24, 2003, 08:51:23 AM: I'm still waiting for Roger and Me II, The SUV.

Unlike the original, in this one Michael Moore questions why car companies can put out cars people want all for the sake of some piddle factory in a nowhere town.
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: Sox62 on August 24, 2003, 09:43:34 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Hortlund
so what exactly was made up?

Here you go Hortlund.

Link (http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html)
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Post by: Otto on August 24, 2003, 04:07:45 PM: My average is about 129.
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Post by: fd ski on August 24, 2003, 04:27:10 PM: It was good as long as he was on track. But later into the movie he sidetracked himself into anti-kmart and anti-hanson stuff and lost very good idea he was pursuing.
He asked why there was so much gun violence in US compared to say Swissland where gun ownership is even higher then US and so forth. He asked about national paranoia of being victimized and lack of support for such. It was good stuff, till he went into activism bit against KMart and chased Hanson down. Remainder was crap.
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: SirLoin on August 24, 2003, 05:16:29 PM: Moore should do a documentary on the music business...Compare how what we used to get(album with readable liner notes,real musicians and recording flubs) to what we now are forced to swallow(CD's that have no packaging,jewel cases that break upon opening,cut and paste production that gives you the exact sampled chorus that you heard the first time around..etc)

Add to that hand held filming of two bands..One that plays bars,makes great music and gets turned down by every record exec they meet...And contrast this to footage of a current BoyBrat/Idol/Rap music wannabe band.

It would be hilarious!
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: Gunthr on August 25, 2003, 09:11:31 AM: Michael Moore's America hating is tiresome.
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Post by: midnight Target on August 25, 2003, 10:06:01 AM: Funny how many of you are up in arms about the documentary when you have never seen it.
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: Saurdaukar on August 25, 2003, 10:52:03 AM: Some of you still take B4C as some sort of factual documentary? Hehe, ok. ;)
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Post by: DiabloTX on August 25, 2003, 01:54:54 PM: Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
Funny how many of you are up in arms about the documentary when you have never seen it.

"up in arms", hehe, good one...
Title: Bowling for Columbine
Post by: MJHerman on September 03, 2003, 04:32:54 PM: I saw it this weekend, and it had its moments. Thanks to the previous poster above who set out a link on some inaccuracies, inconsistencies, etc. in the movie since I found the counterarguments useful as well.

That said, I don't think that Moore's substantial artistic licence and editorializing detracts from what I thought was the main theme of the movie, that being that Americans seem to live in a much more violent society than other Western style democracies, and that they kill each other at a higher rate.

Did it deserve an Oscar? Probably not. Is it one person's "opinion piece"? Probably. I don't think he should be criticised for expression his opinion, but he can certaintly be criticised for using his position and "celebrity" as some form of justification of his point of view. Then again, a lot of people are guilty of that.