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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: lazs2 on August 24, 2003, 09:24:08 AM
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any chance that during the pizza time in the MA you could allways make the CT an early war fun fest? Like BOB? The russian/norweigen mid war thing was pretty cool too with La5 and G6/Fm2 ....
lazs
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PTO early war is the best
f4f vs a6m2 rocks
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One of those, yes please.
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If Lazs is for it .. then I'm entirely against it. Bad suggestion. Boo!
:D
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now why would they want to cater to you or the other occasional toe-dippers? would you stick around (or even come in) when the "bad for k/t" maps are up in MA?
you want to curry favor, you need to build up "credit" with the CT staff.
;)
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Run FinRus when bigisles is on! please...
Or maybe N-Africa setup?
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Naw, lazs, you wouldn't like it, so why would any of us even bother?
In the CT, it would be Axis versus Allied, no FM2 vs FM2, so you'd be complaining about it ten minutes after you logged in. You said some time back that you didn't like that aspect of the CT, and much as I try to put setups in that have something for everyone, what you want in a setup just doesn't jive with what the CT is about.
Sorry, try again.................;)
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obviously, I will never be a CT regular... it is axis vs allied with all the sameness and lack of imagination that involves.. but... I am not the only person who hates the pizza map. If you want to get the numbers... and thereby getting new blood.... exposing new people to the CT.. you need to have some fun set... there are only about 3 fun allied vs axis setups that aren't either totally lopsided or" late war run and hide, worse than pizza" setups sooooo..
it is in your best interest.
it is in my interest because I don't stay long enough to get bored fighting the same ol planes with the same ol planes on my "side" in the short time I am in the CT. The fights are decent for a couple of nights most of the time in the early war sets. Skill levels about the same as the MA some better some worse than average.
lazs
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I've been in the CT lately due to the darkness in the MA DURING PRIMETIME!!!!
f4f vs Zekes is a good matchup...the P-40B is good as well. I really do like the limited planesets that the CT offers...the maps are cool as well...I really like the fire effect there.
The only bad thing about the CT is the lack of players....if 100 players were there I would probably never fly the MA.
You CT kings should do whatever you can to grow the population...just my opinion of course.
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comeon now arlo... you know you follow me around like a puppy in the MA..
lazs
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geeze... gettin a lecture on currying favor and winning over people by.... shane?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
geeze... gettin a lecture on currying favor and winning over people by.... shane?
lazs
Gawd, but that is a hilarious bit of irony! "Mr. Kettle, Mr. Pot calling on line one." Seriously though, since we try to rotate the operational theater every week, it might be hard to synch up with the MA's "bad map" rotation. Let me ask you, Laz: If one of the "America's Most Hated Maps" is up in the CT, wouldn't just about any CT set up we've ever run be better than the MA?
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Originally posted by Sabre
Let me ask you, Laz: If one of the "America's Most Hated Maps" is up in the CT, wouldn't just about any CT set up we've ever run be better than the MA?
just about any CT setup? yep. this particular setup? nope.
and hey, i *don't* suck up, but that doesn't mean i don't know how.
i'd think the current setup would appeal to lazs, f4f's and all.... he'd even be likely to fly with the #'s on allied side.
but..... his k/t would suffer big time, i suppose, with the slow planes and longer flight times. maybe a scrip for ritalin would help him enjoy the CT more?
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Gawd, but that is a hilarious bit of irony! "Mr. Kettle, Mr. Pot calling on line one."
Pull out a pot o' popcorn and enjoy the dream match, m8! :D
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Originally posted by lazs2
it is in my interest because I don't stay long enough to get bored fighting the same ol planes with the same ol planes on my "side" in the short time I am in the CT. The fights are decent for a couple of nights most of the time in the early war sets. Skill levels about the same as the MA some better some worse than average.
Heh heh. Never let it be said that Lazs2 doesn't have a way of working himself into your heart. His underlying point is a good one, though; it never hurts to have more people come into the CT. Many of them will never have seen how much fun the early war planes are when they aren't being b&z'd by P-51s and the like. Some might even enjoy the experience.
- oldman
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Originally posted by lazs2
comeon now arlo... you know you follow me around like a puppy in the MA..
lazs
Only to pee on your leg and watch you make faces. ;)
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you mean..... you're doing that on purpose?
lazs
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what is ma?
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Originally posted by ergRTC
what is ma?
i dunno, but i'm yer daddy! :eek:
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shane... you missed the point entirely. I don't expect anyone to "cater" to me and I don't think they would even if I learned to suck butt as well as you claim to be able to.
I was merely pointing out that it was in their best interest. I have found that most people are suceptible to responding to their own best interest but if butt kissing works for you then.... continue in that vein.
oldman understands... have him explain it to you he is much more patient than I am.
sabre.. guess that was a private joke between you and mr personality?
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
shane... you missed the point entirely. I don't expect anyone to "cater" to me and I don't think they would even if I learned to suck butt as well as you claim to be able to.
then why even bother posting the request, i.e. "cater to meeeeeee, the all-knowing lazs who knows what's best for everyone" ?
those with an interest in CT type setups will gravitate to it. those who merely dabble in CT occasionally, especially when some MA map they don't care for is up, well... i guess you take what's on the menu. that's the good thing about CT the menu is always changing and it takes time to cycle thru all the various setups, not to mention all the potential setups available.
here's an idea, since you don't want to make an MA map that would suit what you deem is in everyone's best interest, why don't you join the CT staff and then you can create all the planeset matchups you desire (and deem in teh best interest of everyone). who know's maybe you'll get lucky and your CT setup will concur with the pizza map (or any other map you don't think is in everyone's best interests).
why not simply create your own little H2H arena so you and 7 other buddies can furball to your heart's content and get outrageous k/t's and stuff? you can even make it easier if you crank up lethality where it takes only 20 .303's to blow up a plane.
it's all about the action, right? or does it actually have to do with beetle-isms of being able to post on the BBS of your exploits?
what oldman is failing to acknowledge is that 99.5% of the MA-type dweebs have zero interest in early war setups, or even CT type setups, early, mid, or late war. otherwise the CT would be pretty populated already. there's no significant increase or decrease in CT #'s that is dependent upon the particular setup in place.
why don't you bring the BK's and maybe suck in the TAS and fly CT regularly? the increase in just these #'s on a steady basis might in turn result to more people stopping by, because, hey, there's #'s in CT!! and it snowballs!!
the above is a much better suggestion than trying to suggest what you *think is in the best interests for everyone* which is actually a shoddily disguised me me me whine.
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lazs, you da man
(big hug)
never thought I would get to see you upset mister tighty pants.
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CT is there for people that dont want to play in the other place. I play 2 hours a week now, and thank god for the CT (more accurately my squad) or I wouldnt even be playing that. If 'those other guys' want to swing by when their map sucks, all power to em. Maybe since I play so little now it doesnt bother me, but every time I log (tues and thurs at 10pm est) there are 60+ in the CT. Seems good to me.
Maybe that is a sign that the community is getting ready for more variety. That other place will always have a big calling, but you need to have some structure sometime, and I think TOD is going to really do that for us. Play around in the 'other place' get warmed up or bored, then head to the TOD and try to do the best flying you have done all week. Fly planes the way they were designed and fly to complete a mission with other like minded individuals. no little generals, no k/d ratio. Ahhh, cant wait.
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we did bring the BK's and some tas guys and we did just fine... plus... we had a real good time.
as for me joining the ct crew and making any map or plane matchup I wanted.... I don't think they would let me do anything but allied vs axis..
The CT is fun if it is early or mid war with close fields and good furballs... if you have to look for action it is a drag... if you fly it tooo often the reality of how simplistic the axis vs allied setup is starts to get to you ... boring..
It is fun once in a while and I am grateful that it is there as an alternative for the bad times in the MA like pizza and night time.
I think a lot of the people that leave the MA during night or pizza are the type who like some action. If the CT offers a fun planeset with close fields it will attract people.... this is much different from "catering" to lazs. But....
let me know how your butt sucking plan works out.
Looks like having an early war set with close fields worked out pretty good tho last night eh guys? everyone had a lot of fun.
lazs
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i don't need to suck butt... there's nothing worthwhile to make such an effort from my perspective.
sure they'd accept you as a CT staffer if they had a slot open (not sure)... yeah you'd be confined to pretty much axis vs allies, altho an occasional "what if" setup pops up.
you're limiting yourself by excluding the late war setups... there are very many decent matchups in any given period, rarely does one side or the other have an overwhelming or significant advantage in planes. nothing simplistic about limted planeset matchups. acm is acm, planes have their own strengths and weaknesses. but that's ok, not everyone can handle all the planes in the AH lineup.
#'s imbalance? .. sure at times, but weenies are as weenies do, i think you'd fit right in on the side that has the occasional 2+:1 advantage.
and most maps have areas with close bases, some maps have a few dead spots with further apart bases. and some maps are used over a variety of periods/setups.
you're really obsessed with "close bases" depsite the fact that on mnay maps bases are pretty "close." how do you define close anyway, within sight of each other?
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last night and the night before were good fights.. the fields were "close" in one case it was a CV and it was indeed "within sight" and the other was about 3/4 of a sector away which I consider about right. with the current PTO setup there has to be a very close field (cv) with a large furball to negate the advantage the zeke has over the f4f. that is what is happening.
I have flown every plane in the set. I do about the same in all of em. I just find the late war ones boring for the most part.
Allied vs axis would keep me from wanting to be on the "staff". I can't see any set that would not be unbalanced and simplistic.
sooo... the CT is fun for a change of pace and if you don't stay to long and if the fights are close and even and if the MA has night or pizza or something allmost as bad and if...
lazs