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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on August 25, 2003, 07:18:32 AM
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we used to hear the bmw guys but we just pretended we didn't.
lazs
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what BMW guys ? :)
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Wow... now there's one hell of a "chip on the shoulder".
MiniD
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Funny, I was thinking that.
BMW's marketing dept has too small a budget in the US obviously.
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You guys didn't get the joke? Guess one needs to be an optimist to see the humor...
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Yeah I get it, I just dont think it's very funny. In fact I'll say I think it's a very poor advertising gimmick that won't win BMW any sales. It's (almost) instantly forgettable. :) Compare it to the Honda advert....you know the one I mean. ;)
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I don't think its intended to sell BMW's to Harley Drivers ;) I think its a corporation that recognizes the importance of 100 years in business.
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I always liked the one that said
"95 percent of all Harleys are still on the road. The other 5 percent made it home"
:)
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Hehe, nice Krusher.
Tenuous link here, have a friend from Zimbabwe who explained BMW was shorthand for Bob Mugabe and the Wailers due to Bob's fondness for huge motorcades with 20 + outriders. Not sure if they were HD's or BMW's though ;)
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Typically BMW riders and Harley riders don't mix much. The beemer riders don't like waiting for the hogs to be fixed every 50 to 100 miles.
:D
BMW K75RT rider here. :p ;)
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Harley riding gear:
- T-shirt. $5
- Old Pair of Levis. Free
- White tube socks. $1.
- Used leather Chaps. $40
- Used leather Jacket. $50
- Friends old brain bucket. Free
- Leather gloves. $20
- Leather Elvis boots. $50
- Sunglasses. $15
Total: $ 181.
BMW riding gear:
- Polo t-shirt $25
- Ralph Lauren Long sleve. Salmon color. $100
- Dockers pants. Strain resistant. $50
- FirstGear Kevlar Armored Bomber Riding Jacket. $350
- Nolan Rapid Full-face helmet. $400
- Frank Thomas Kevlar Pants $250
- Frank Thomas Boots $200
- Northface Gortex socks: $20
- Bolle Spiral sunglasses: $150
Total: $1545
:D
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Originally posted by Maverick
BMW K75RT rider here. :p ;)
Schweeet!
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Originally posted by Mister Fork
Harley riding gear:
- T-shirt. $5
- Old Pair of Levis. Free
- White tube socks. $1.
- Used leather Chaps. $40
- Used leather Jacket. $50
- Friends old brain bucket. Free
- Leather gloves. $20
- Leather Elvis boots. $50
- Sunglasses. $15
Total: $ 181.
BMW riding gear:
- Polo t-shirt $25
- Ralph Lauren Long sleve. Salmon color. $100
- Dockers pants. Strain resistant. $50
- FirstGear Kevlar Armored Bomber Riding Jacket. $350
- Nolan Rapid Full-face helmet. $400
- Frank Thomas Kevlar Pants $250
- Frank Thomas Boots $200
- Northface Gortex socks: $20
- Bolle Spiral sunglasses: $150
Total: $1545
:D
LOL, my old co-worker and neighbor 3 houses down has 3 Harleys...he'd laugh at this assessment above...Harley Paraphenalia is twice the cost of BMW stuff these days. He says 'Since the yuppies started buying Hogs, everythings expensive now!" (Uhhh, Roger, you're making 6 digits, and live in a $350,000 house....yuppie who? ;) )
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Originally posted by Trikky
Hehe, nice Krusher.
Tenuous link here, have a friend from Zimbabwe who explained BMW was shorthand for Bob Mugabe and the Wailers due to Bob's fondness for huge motorcades with 20 + outriders. Not sure if they were HD's or BMW's though ;)
One mechanic told me once that BMW stands for -
"Bring money withya"
or
"Bring more wallets"
Course, taking your Harley to the local dealer for any kind of service will cost ya plenty too - but the local dealer has been servicing mine since new (what maintenance I don't perform) so I keep going back. 39,500 miles and still going :)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
LOL, my old co-worker and neighbor 3 houses down has 3 Harleys...he'd laugh at this assessment above...Harley Paraphenalia is twice the cost of BMW stuff these days. He says 'Since the yuppies started buying Hogs, everythings expensive now!" (Uhhh, Roger, you're making 6 digits, and live in a $350,000 house....yuppie who? ;) )
Rip thats only if you buy Harley brand stuff. You can tell a yuppy harley rider cause every thing he is wearing is harley brand. The rest of us look just like that list. Cept the smart ones who spend a little extra on the brain bucket. I have a simpson shorty kevlar. The novelty helmets are only good for scraping your brains of the road after your dead.
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Speaking of Harley's 100th, Milwaukee is going nuts this week with the celebration. They've got streets blocked off, harley commercials left and right, and of course thousands of bikes roaming around. Event planners are expecting 100,000 riders to enter the city next week.
Four interstate highways head into the city and there's four HUGE organized groups coming from the south, west, southwest, and north. Apparently the riders that met up in Las Vegas totals 30,000+ ! Thats gotta feel like an earthquake flying by.
Gonna be a crazy week.
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Originally posted by Octavius
Speaking of Harley's 100th, Milwaukee is going nuts this week with the celebration. They've got streets blocked off, harley commercials left and right, and of course thousands of bikes roaming around. Event planners are expecting 100,000 riders to enter the city next week.
Four interstate highways head into the city and there's four HUGE organized groups coming from the south, west, southwest, and north. Apparently the riders that met up in Las Vegas totals 30,000+ ! Thats gotta feel like an earthquake flying by.
Gonna be a crazy week.
Depends on how many make it to Milwaukee. It could look like a harley used bike lot along the highway........... :p
Of course there might be the majority of them trucking their bikes there.
Ever see the new cruising deal on Harley?? For $35,000 you get a new Harley and a used pick up to haul it in....... ;)
Just kiddin....................... ..........NOT! :D
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I rode a R75 that belonged to a friend of mine once. It was an interesting motorcycle, about 75 vintage if I recal. I was riding a four cylinder rice burner at the time and the BMW felt buzzy and rough to me.
Since I bought my Harley I have had to relearn to ride. Some of that comes from not having ridden in 23 years, the rest comes from the unique experience of a large displacement vertical twin. There are all kinds of new noises to get used to. One of it's endearing aspects is the massive amounts of torque it produces at rediculously low rpm's. A lot like what I imagine driving a tractor is like :D.
So far it has been worth every penny I am paying for it.
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Different stokes for different folks...I see brand new boots, HD vest, gloves, leather do-rag, $200 shades, and a brand new shiny Harley, and no old lady...hehe... on the yuppy scum. Kinda looks gay to me. :D
Thorns
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Saw a Harley man's worst nightmare this past Saturday. Was out for a walk and, as I approached a really nasty, accident prone intersection I heard a tire screech followed by the sound of metal grinding away on pavement. Through the intersection ahead of me spun a shiny aluminum V-Rod spinning on it's side to the median and a rider flippety flipping to the curb. I did the 9-1-1 thing on my cell phone and, along with some bystanders lifted the hog and wheeled it to the curb, while others helped the rider.
He had only pavement rash, along with a seriously scraped up helmet. Seems some lady in a new Cadillac left turned him on his 4 month old ride. He dropped it, but didn't hit the Caddy. Two lessons here. One, always wear a helmet. Two, always assume the cage drivers are out to get you.
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Snork,
Don't assume they are out to get you. They ARE out to get you. That is from long experiance riding a motor in heavy town traffic. They will always claim they didn't see you but the results still are painful.
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and a rider flippety flipping to the curb.
ahhh, concrete ballet
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, beeeeeeeeeeemmeeeerrrrrrrrr
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love that bike.
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"95 percent of all Harleys are still on the road. The other 5 percent made it home"
LOL
dago
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Originally posted by Maverick
Depends on how many make it to Milwaukee. It could look like a harley used bike lot along the highway........... :p
Of course there might be the majority of them trucking their bikes there.
Ever see the new cruising deal on Harley?? For $35,000 you get a new Harley and a used pick up to haul it in....... ;)
Just kiddin....................... ..........NOT! :D
I really don't want to get into a peeing contest about Harley's reliability, I believe it to be quite adequate these days with all the changes they have made. All motorcycles are great fun. There are different kinds for different riding styles. Most all are pretty reliable with the Japanese probably making the most reliable ones on the market. We each dream of our "perfect scooter". I finally got my dream. A big displacement designed and manufactured and built in the USA scooter.
It's interesting though... years ago I was always bashing Harleys too, I grew up finally :D.
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i have owned jap bikes,,bsa's, triumph's,,harley's,,even a harley davidson 250 dirt bike<~~what a blast it was for a old beast,,,,400 2 stroke huskavarna dirt bike i still ride to this day,,,,street and dirt i like them all,,i use to own a triumph 930 pucker factor bike,,very fast,,speedo went up too 180,,i never took it that far.,.but with the six speed it had,,im sure it would have,,first gear did allmost 75 miles a hour maxed out at 11,000rpm,,,,i like them all for diffrent reasons,,but for strait out riding and having fun,,give me my old harley anyday,,,im part owner of a 1990 springer heritage,,been a great bike,,evo moto has never give us a lick of proublems,,sold my old harley, to go part owner of the springer<~~bigger ,,badder,,and worth alot more than my sporty
I really don't want to get into a peeing contest about Harley's reliability,
todays harley evo motor very reliable and easy to work on i guess,we never had to work on mine yet,,my triumph was a nightmare just to reach the clutch,,let alone rebuild it,,honda and yamaha,,same way,,reliable,,but hard to work on,,honda was allways good at making somthing simple complicated,,but they do last a long time,,good and bads with all of them
my old harley was a 77 iron head sporty,,never broke down,,and the guy i sold it too,,still hasnt put nothing but new tires on it in 3 years,,been a wonderfull bike, he rides it all the time,,all bikes break down,,just counts how you treat them,,but for just cruzing i like a harley,,,my triumph would kill ya on a long ride,,,bent over that gas tank for 500 miles is not too fun,,lol,,would rather stand tall with some apes:),,lol<~~but i like them all,,,found good and bad in both bikes,,,just ride what you like i guess,,,as for me,,ill like them all,,,i havent road a bmw yet,,but i think they make some good lookin bikes now days
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People are nutz if they think Harleys are not reliable. I never had problem with my 78 Sporty ( AMA years even) until someone in a lifted 4x4 tried to run me over from behind.
I now drive a 2003 Honda VTX 1800, which is an increadible bike IMO.
I also used to have a Kawasaki LTD 750 and a Honda 650 Nighthawk. I enjoyed them all.
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I'm not a bike rider except for little whiney shreckers in my youth so I cant really comment on reliability etc. What's guaranteed to whet my whistle though is hearing either a Harley or a Ducati growling their way through traffic....can send a grown man weak at the knees.
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I took the baffles outta my Vance & Hines short shots last week - good fun but the power curve changes a bit and, I gotta admit it's a bit obnoxious. Ill put em back in one of these days....... :)
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Originally posted by Bonden
I took the baffles outta my Vance & Hines short shots last week - good fun but the power curve changes a bit and, I gotta admit it's a bit obnoxious. Ill put em back in one of these days....... :)
That's what Harleys are for! Make lots of noise, just like as if you were a man! You need to practice a lot to get the "Harley Sneer" going.
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Hehe - the sneer cracks me up sometimes. You can watch someones expression change as soon as the helmet goes on.
Goes from this :D to :mad: in an instant.
As far as the noise goes, Im quite comfortable with myself thank you very much.
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When I quit ridin.... you would come out of the bare and maybe 4-20 of you would all try to start your 10-40 year old bikes... you didn't have to try your key (what key?) in ten black bikes that all looked alike cause no bike there looked like any other. If you could start the damn thing you were probly sober enough to ride it. Real Harleys have kick starters.
Harley shops would call the cops if you came around.
cops wouldn't pull you over even if you didn't have lights mufflers or even plates if you were in a group of a dozen or so...
People came out of their houses (or peeked out the curtains)to look when they heard a Harley or 10 go by...
Harleys broke down... most of em,95% were 20 years old or older with maybe 50 thousand hard miles on em and repaired with used or stolen parts. If mine didn't start in 3 kicks I was shocked... either I was too loaded or the there was something really badly wrong.
Girls on honda 50's wore helmets and so did guys at the track. No one else did. Girls and accountants didn't ride Harleys. Black guys had their own clubs with dresser Hogs.
not sure if those were the good ol days or not... they just were.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
When I quit ridin.... you would come out of the bare and maybe 4-20 of you would all try to start your 10-40 year old bikes... you didn't have to try your key (what key?) in ten black bikes that all looked alike cause no bike there looked like any other. If you could start the damn thing you were probly sober enough to ride it. Real Harleys have kick starters.
Harley shops would call the cops if you came around.
cops wouldn't pull you over even if you didn't have lights mufflers or even plates if you were in a group of a dozen or so...
People came out of their houses (or peeked out the curtains)to look when they heard a Harley or 10 go by...
Harleys broke down... most of em,95% were 20 years old or older with maybe 50 thousand hard miles on em and repaired with used or stolen parts. If mine didn't start in 3 kicks I was shocked... either I was too loaded or the there was something really badly wrong.
Girls on honda 50's wore helmets and so did guys at the track. No one else did. Girls and accountants didn't ride Harleys. Black guys had their own clubs with dresser Hogs.
not sure if those were the good ol days or not... they just were.
lazs
Lazs if I recall you don't drink but if you make FunkedUps suare and so do I I'll bring you to one of the last real biker bars in the S.F. Bay Area. It's swamped by accountants and such on weekend nights (well it was 4+ years ago - the last time I was there/in the area/etc.) but on weekday afternoons it was home to some 'interesting' characters doing some heavy drinking. I guess it makes sense - on a weekend night they are probably at their own place with their own women. :)
Another question for you (or anyone who can answer) - I saw 'Easy Rider' for the first time ever a few months back. At the beginning of the movie they throw their watches away. Is this a 'biker' thing? If so, what is the significance?
Mike/wulfie
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My dad used to take off his watch the first day of vacation and put it in the glove compartment of the car for the entire vacation.... probly something like that in the movie but..... I never seen any of the guys I was with that owned a wrist watch... seen a pocket watch once. The bikes in easy rider were pretty much what you seen back then (minus the flag paint)... krylon black was the hot color cause you could touch up easy enough.
Lots of little stuff was done back then like "trust no one" tatoo in chinnese (how the hell did they know what it said if they didn't read chinnese?) 1% FTW... Had to get a kinda large dragon put on to cover up some of that old sh** recently. Of the dozen guys I grew up with and then rode with..... all are dead... President of the banshees died 3 months ago. I even was in the boy scouts with him. He was the last of the old crowd.
I don't drink or do drugs anymore, rarely have a reason to be in a bar but have no problem with going with other people... long as they don't want to homestead the place.
I can bore you to tears with stories of the old days given half a chance.
lazs
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Ever frequent the "Sweet Springs Saloon" Lazs?
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Originally posted by wulfie
Lazs if I recall you don't drink but if you make FunkedUps suare and so do I I'll bring you to one of the last real biker bars in the S.F. Bay Area. It's swamped by accountants and such on weekend nights (well it was 4+ years ago - the last time I was there/in the area/etc.) but on weekday afternoons it was home to some 'interesting' characters doing some heavy drinking. I guess it makes sense - on a weekend night they are probably at their own place with their own women. :)
Another question for you (or anyone who can answer) - I saw 'Easy Rider' for the first time ever a few months back. At the beginning of the movie they throw their watches away. Is this a 'biker' thing? If so, what is the significance?
Mike/wulfie
The Steel Horse Saloon in Phoenix is a true biker bar to this day.... it's a Hells Angels bar but "normal" people are still safe there.
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I can bore you to tears with stories of the old days given half a chance.
Tell some Laz, would be interesting.
How old are you anyway? :)
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one story I still like is... one day we were all sitting around... er... every day... and some guy was showing his new Tat with it's string of chinese letters. I noticed that most of the guys tats were slightly different. I told the guy that he was pretty brave to put that on his arm seeing as how he was going to court soon and facing 5 years min hard time. He asked why and I told him "cause of what you had tattooed on your arm" He said "trust no one?" I said.... "you think that is what it says?" "what do you mean?" .... welll says I... I only read mandarin (I don't but I read books so they thought I knew everything) but in mandarin it says "I like to take it up the butt."
much howling and knashing of teeth... still makes me chuckle... kinda feel sorry for that chinaman tho... last I seen was 3 or four of the guys with the same tats all piling into the lincoln (after putting on long sleeved shirts) and heading for the tato parlor..
Hard as this is to believe... lot's of bikers considered me to be mean spirited.
I was an "independent" and would take off by myself for weeks... some good times on that bike. Still.... growing up with the clubbers let me ride with em when I wanted and that had it's moments.
lazs
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It's the NOISE issue. If other motor vehicles were allowed the same decibels the nation would be deaf.
I asked an HD dealer about that. He said their stock bikes are within noise limits. It's the mods that do the thunder.
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lets face it Harley Has a large share Of the market so they must be doing something right:D
Happy B day Harley Davidson:cool:
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Originally posted by rc51
lets face it Harley Has a large share Of the market so they must be doing something right:D
Happy B day Harley Davidson:cool:
Proving that no one has ever gone broke underestimating the taste of the American buying public.
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Originally posted by Snork
Proving that no one has ever gone broke underestimating the taste of the American buying public.
That doesn't make any sense.
And... if it means what I think you're trying to say... I wonder if you've ever seen the reaction a Harley Davidson gets in virtually any foreign country.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Halo
It's the NOISE issue. If other motor vehicles were allowed the same decibels the nation would be deaf.
I asked an HD dealer about that. He said their stock bikes are within noise limits. It's the mods that do the thunder.
What that Harley dealer told you is true, I don't care for the loud pipes either. Sure, they sound cool for about 2 or 3 minutes but sure would get tiresome after a bit. The loud pipes also begets sour looks from the populace too. I prefer the quieter pipes myself, especially since I come home anywhere from midnight to 2:30 in the morning.
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Originally posted by Mini D
That doesn't make any sense.
And... if it means what I think you're trying to say... I wonder if you've ever seen the reaction a Harley Davidson gets in virtually any foreign country.
MiniD
Yeah, there's a lot of folks that succumb to the "Harley Mystique" all around the world. My apologies for implying that Americans were the only ones with poor taste in scooters.
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
The loud pipes also begets sour looks from the populace too. .
Thats the whole purpose thought right? "Look at me! look at me!"
;)
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LOL Snork! The statement you made has gone from not making sense to being so stupid that it's difficult to comprehend.
MiniD
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I think snork is saying that the only legitimate fun to be had on a motorcycle is when you are pushing it to it's limits and that if it's limits aren't about 6 times the legal road limits then you have poor taste in a poor motorcycle. If you use half the capabilities of any motorcycle built today you will shortly end up under the wheels of a very large sedan driven by someone who never even seen yu or over a cliff after hitting that icy, wet, gravely patch that no motorcycle in the world will rescue yu from and then.....
you will have the humiliating death of being killed on a day glow melted plastic looking peice of crap while wearing multi colored fake race clothing.
lazs
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I thought they were talking about BMWs and Harleys in this thread lazs? What's all this talk about pushing to the limits?
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mini D
LOL Snork! The statement you made has gone from not making sense to being so stupid that it's difficult to comprehend.
MiniD
Read your above statement once more and tell me about "not making sense". If you didn't understand my comment, then you just didn't understand it. Doesn't mean it's "too stupid" or, for that matter, that you are.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Thats the whole purpose thought right? "Look at me! look at me!"
;)
I don't ride to get attention. I ride to enjoy it. I do wear bright cloths to make me more visible, but being a fairly shy person I don't go out of my way to draw attention to myself.
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Originally posted by lazs2
I think snork is saying that the only legitimate fun to be had on a motorcycle is when you are pushing it to it's limits and that if it's limits aren't about 6 times the legal road limits then you have poor taste in a poor motorcycle. If you use half the capabilities of any motorcycle built today you will shortly end up under the wheels of a very large sedan driven by someone who never even seen yu or over a cliff after hitting that icy, wet, gravely patch that no motorcycle in the world will rescue yu from and then.....
you will have the humiliating death of being killed on a day glow melted plastic looking peice of crap while wearing multi colored fake race clothing.
lazs
My apologies for making you waste your valuable time and finger flexes to respond to what I didn't say, imply, or mean.
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Snork,
A lot of people don't care for Harleys. That is cool. I used to not care for them either. We each have our own preferences in just about anything in life. I think it would be wrong for me to say that your choice in women is sad because I would choose differently. That is very personal to you and very much a part of you. I think the same applies to your taste in motorcycles. If it floats your boat then go for it.
I suppose what I don't fully understand is why come in here in this thread and rain on OUR parade? What's the point?
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You clarified the statement snork. I just couldn't believe you would be saying something that stupid. From vitually every aspect. It's funny in a way. You obviously said it just to be insulting, but it was just so stupid and so wrong that it just came off as... well... stupid.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
Snork,
A lot of people don't care for Harleys. That is cool. I used to not care for them either. We each have our own preferences in just about anything in life. I think it would be wrong for me to say that your choice in women is sad because I would choose differently. That is very personal to you and very much a part of you. I think the same applies to your taste in motorcycles. If it floats your boat then go for it.
I suppose what I don't fully understand is why come in here in this thread and rain on OUR parade? What's the point?
WHOA! Let's not get into my taste in women! I was married once, and my taste (judgement) was soooo bad I never considered it again.
Why did I enter this thread? I started riding a Yamaha 80 38 years ago and progressed through a series of Yamahas, Hondas and a BMW since. My present ride is a 27 year old Yamaha multi I saved from the scrap heap and have kept alive for 4 years now. It's all been good fun, except for the run-ins I've had with Harley attitude. I just can't pass up the opportunity to poke holes in it. So when I send a friendly wave as we pass on the road, just flip me off. Most Harley riders do, so I'll not even know it's you.
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Originally posted by Mini D
You clarified the statement snork. I just couldn't believe you would be saying something that stupid. From vitually every aspect. It's funny in a way. You obviously said it just to be insulting, but it was just so stupid and so wrong that it just came off as... well... stupid.
MiniD
Note to self: In future don't bother replying to one who considers anything he disagrees with or doesn't understand "Stupid and Wrong".
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worked a wreck on a guy that wiped out a sprty 1200 custom today. missed an exit looking at signs, wound up with a compound fracture in his lower arm and upper leg. he also had on one of thos novelty helmets, it did fairly well.
i hear of these guys wanting to drive their m/c 200mph and it scares me to death. all it takes is a moment of inattention by you or aunt ethel in the 85 coup de ville and its all over or worse. your fediddleed up the rest of your life, like that guy today.
i guess i'm like the rest of the guys here, i'll just keep riding on borrowed time.
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Originally posted by Snork
WHOA! Let's not get into my taste in women! I was married once, and my taste (judgement) was soooo bad I never considered it again.
Why did I enter this thread? I started riding a Yamaha 80 38 years ago and progressed through a series of Yamahas, Hondas and a BMW since. My present ride is a 27 year old Yamaha multi I saved from the scrap heap and have kept alive for 4 years now. It's all been good fun, except for the run-ins I've had with Harley attitude. I just can't pass up the opportunity to poke holes in it. So when I send a friendly wave as we pass on the road, just flip me off. Most Harley riders do, so I'll not even know it's you.
It's unfortunate that you have had run ins with "Harley attitude". I always rode yammers too. Last one was a 78 XS11. I don't care what other people ride, I really don't. I feel part of a fraternity, not limited to any particular brand of scooter.
Only time I flip anyone off is if they try to run me off the road...
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Snork... you're one of those guys that would walk into a bar with a bunch of harleys parked out front, stop and say "Harley's aint worth ****". You'd be instantly ***** slapped and thrown out only to tell everyone about that damn harley attitude.
Either that or you're airhead and you're bored with the trolling at AGW.
MiniD
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Leave the poor guy alone Mini. He's obviously got Harley-envy. He feels inadequate about his choice in motorcycles, and needs to compensate by "poking holes" in others' opinions of Harleys.
SOB
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Originally posted by Mini D
Snork... you're one of those guys that would walk into a bar with a bunch of harleys parked out front, stop and say "Harley's aint worth ****". You'd be instantly ***** slapped and thrown out only to tell everyone about that damn harley attitude.
Either that or you're airhead and you're bored with the trolling at AGW.
MiniD
So there's this biker bar on a state highway just outside of town. A state trooper is sitting in his cruiser off the road on the other side from the bar. A "typical" biker staggers out, stumbles down the stairs, mostly crawls across the parking lot, tries his key in two Harleys before he finds the right one and starts it. He pulls on to the highway and proceeds to roar away. The state cop catches him and pulls him over. After giving him the whole battery of dwi tests, he says, "What gives? I saw you drunk as a skunk 5 minutes ago and now you're sober as a judge!"
The biker replies, "I'm the designated decoy!"
Airhead is a state of mind. I haven't been on AGW since I joined AH.
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Originally posted by SOB
Leave the poor guy alone Mini. He's obviously got Harley-envy. He feels inadequate about his choice in motorcycles, and needs to compensate by "poking holes" in others' opinions of Harleys.
SOB
Pretty astute, considering that part of the male anatomy the Harley represents to the owners thereof. ;)
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so snork... you never have owned a Harley then. No one will let you ride theirs? Maybe if yu dropped the attitude someone might let you ride theirs... heck... they let chicks ride Harleys these days... you could probly manage a modern Harley. They are close to the real ones (the ones with kick starters).
lazs
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Originally posted by Snork
Airhead is a state of mind. I haven't been on AGW since I joined AH.
Welcome back airhead. How long till you have another meltdown? How's the new divorce going? Been bungi jumping lately?
Here's the question: Do you hop from one community to another because you get bored with them or they just get used to you?
MiniD
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I wish I could afford a Harley..Those Japanese V twins are nice but not the same sound or mechanical vibe...Funny how HD riders seem so "bad" when they pull up beside you doing the speed limit,yet the guy in a GSXR who lane split you doing 120 seems so non threatening when you catch up to him at a gas bar.
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I remember when a friend took the baffels out of the pipe on his Kz750 in the early 1980's. It was in front of his house on a narrow street lined with contiuous two story row houses. The noise was painfull when he revved it and people soon came out to complain. It was great! Harleys always sounded like a powerful fart to me - not good. They are actually pretty quite with the factory pipes, and they sound much better that way.
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Originally posted by lazs2
so snork... you never have owned a Harley then. No one will let you ride theirs? Maybe if yu dropped the attitude someone might let you ride theirs... heck... they let chicks ride Harleys these days... you could probly manage a modern Harley. They are close to the real ones (the ones with kick starters).
lazs
Hehe Laz,
I can always tell a "real" Harley rider, their right leg always seems to be shorter than the other :D
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Originally posted by Mini D
Welcome back airhead. How long till you have another meltdown? How's the new divorce going? Been bungi jumping lately?
Here's the question: Do you hop from one community to another because you get bored with them or they just get used to you?
MiniD
Off we go, eh? I haven't been on AGW since I joined AH IN EARLY BETA . Nice try, but you're totally off the mark. Hehe, I seriously thought you were using "airhead" as a description, not a nom de plume.
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Originally posted by lazs2
so snork... you never have owned a Harley then. No one will let you ride theirs? Maybe if yu dropped the attitude someone might let you ride theirs... heck... they let chicks ride Harleys these days... you could probly manage a modern Harley. They are close to the real ones (the ones with kick starters).
lazs
I've spent time in Harley saddles. Everything from fully chopped oldies to modern belt drive. They aren't horrible bikes. Actually, they're quite easy to start and ride, other than getting used to the geometry (or lack thereof) with a super extended front fork. It's just the mystique/attitude thing that puts me off and makes me dis the fans of the marque.
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I make my home in Milwaukee and I'll tell you: I cannot wait for the whole friggin thing to be over. I've never seen the city this hampered before. My normally 20 minute commute has turned into a 45 min ordeal, and more than ever I'm hearing people roar past my apartment at *all* hours of the night. Any benefit from the extra revenue will probably be lost to OT for the cops(who are out in force), prep and clean up, and other "incidentals".
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Originally posted by Snork
Off we go, eh? I haven't been on AGW since I joined AH IN EARLY BETA . Nice try, but you're totally off the mark. Hehe, I seriously thought you were using "airhead" as a description, not a nom de plume.
Ah... my mistake then. So what handle is it you had prior to this one?
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mini D
Ah... my mistake then. So what handle is it you had prior to this one?
MiniD
Sorry, but Snork is all you get. I primarily lurked until recently, just to keep up with what's happening in the game. I prefer to keep my arena name separate from this rowdiness.
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Yah.. that's pretty much what I expected. If you don't want to be associated with what you're saying... it's probably a good idea to not say it. Lurking trolls are so cliche.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mini D
Yah.. that's pretty much what I expected. If you don't want to be associated with what you're saying... it's probably a good idea to not say it. Lurking trolls are so cliche.
MiniD
No it isn't! You expected I was somebody named "airhead" who left AGW to come here and troll.
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you weren't airhead.. the rest is pretty much spot on.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Snork
No it isn't! You expected I was somebody named "airhead" who left AGW to come here and troll.
Airhead played Airwarrior and Aces High. He has one hell of a sense of humor and I wonder where he has been lately.
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Originally posted by Mini D
you weren't airhead.. the rest is pretty much spot on.
MiniD
Heck, after Nuke's nice comments I wish I was airhead. sounds like a funny guy.
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Harleys are dangerous as are all motorcycles.
:D
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Harleys and motorcycles in general are just as dangerous as guns. We all know "guns" are what kill people, not the individual pulling the trigger...:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Mini D
Welcome back airhead. How long till you have another meltdown? How's the new divorce going? Been bungi jumping lately?
Here's the question: Do you hop from one community to another because you get bored with them or they just get used to you?
MiniD
Hi MiniD. I'm having a meltdown right now or I wouldn't be here. Wife and I have worked out our differences and now that the kid is off to college our marriage is better than ever, thanks for asking. I never went bungee jumping, I just thought the irony of someone claiming to be four hundred pounds and bouncing like a paddleball trying to bungee jump was funny, but instead it's been embarassing. Thanks for the reminder. You are truly a Watch Goose of the AW BBS.
Now, here's the answer: I don't have time to post anymore, I'm much too busy hopping from community to community trying to reel in those who hear Airhead footsteps and have Airhead dreams. Sheeeesh, MiniD- you need to get over me. I'm retired.:D
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I never posted on the AW BBS airhead.
Did you forget what board you were spamming again?
MiniD
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Originally posted by Airhead
Hi MiniD. I'm having a meltdown right now or I wouldn't be here. Wife and I have worked out our differences and now that the kid is off to college our marriage is better than ever, thanks for asking. I never went bungee jumping, I just thought the irony of someone claiming to be four hundred pounds and bouncing like a paddleball trying to bungee jump was funny, but instead it's been embarassing. Thanks for the reminder. You are truly a Watch Goose of the AW BBS.
Now, here's the answer: I don't have time to post anymore, I'm much too busy hopping from community to community trying to reel in those who hear Airhead footsteps and have Airhead dreams. Sheeeesh, MiniD- you need to get over me. I'm retired.:D
Well heck! If I'm not you, then who the heck am I? (The sound you hear in the background is 100 magic ISP checkers firing up at the same time to see if I am, in fact, you). You should be so lucky! :cool:
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snork... I can't imagine anyone caring who you are... you obviously are just another timid poster who thinks that people will beat him up in the arena if he says his stupid stuff here.
Your blaming your deformities on a Harley rider scaring your mother when she was pregnant with you is just pitiful.
lazs
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This thread is pretty long not to have yet mentioned bikini babes wrestling in chocolate syrup.:)
H-D sure can through a party.
>edit: spelling
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Originally posted by lazs2
snork... I can't imagine anyone caring who you are
You mean other than mini?
you obviously are just another timid poster who thinks that people will beat him up in the arena if he says his stupid stuff here.
You are sooooo correct. Mr Timid. That's me!!
Your blaming your deformities on a Harley rider scaring your mother when she was pregnant with you is just pitiful.
lazs
That's right, scared the bejeezus out of her. She never saw anyone suck-start a v twin before.
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Originally posted by Mini D
I never posted on the AW BBS airhead.
Did you forget what board you were spamming again?
MiniD
LOL Spamming?
MiniD- 6.84 posts per day
Airhead-0.92 posts per day
And with this post I will slide back into the shadows, somewhat pleased that the worst insult MiniD could hit me with was calling me a "spammer"- coming from him that's almost a compliment.
:D
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Sorry airhead... am I supposed to take this post seriously or not? I know how pissed you get when someone takes one of your serious posts the same way they take the other 99% of them.
When you just show up to post for reaction airhead... you are a spammer.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Mini D
When you just show up to post for reaction airhead... you are a spammer.
MiniD
And when you show up just to post an insult towards me, in light of the fact I quit posting here weeks ago, what does that make you?
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Dang guys! Lighten up! This is a thread about Harleys...isn't it? Of course it could include other scooters as well :) I think it would be cool to post pics of your favorite scooter if you are so inclined. I just finished putting a couple of chrome baubles on mine.
BTW Snork, if you ever get an opportunity, ride one of the Super Glides or the Dyna sport model, the FXDX I think. Though they won't perform handlingwise like one of the better crotch rockets out there they do have a "quickness" about their handling that makes them fun, at least compared to the long tubed stretched front end customs and touring models.
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wideglides and super glides are nice bikes:) my dad and his freind just got back from a bike ride up in the mountains,,his buddy hit a deer!!! at 50mph,,lucky it didnt flip him,,lucky his bike was nice and heavy,,,it broke the blinkers and had light out,,and ruined the front forks,,,just lucky it wasnt worse,,the deer was not so lucky,,,,but the harley lived to drive home with leaking fork seals,,lol
if you want fast harley's you sure can build them,,,most evo's can be punched out too 115 cubic inches and more,,,seen a few with blowers and nitro at the last bike event here,,,was calld the crawdad run,,,they had cooked crawdads,,i dared every one to suck the head,,and one guy did!! he said,,its the best part if you do it right,,suck slow,,,if ya suck too hard,,,it will taste like ear wax!! ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww sick,,lol
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
This thread is pretty long not to have yet mentioned bikini babes wrestling in chocolate syrup.:)
H-D sure can through a party.
>edit: spelling
Throw?
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Sport bike rider here . Yall can kep them overpriced, oil leaking, teeth-rattling monsters.
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Originally posted by -ammo-
Sport bike rider here . Yall can kep them overpriced, oil leaking, teeth-rattling monsters.
Hehe Trey,
I know that was a troll, I'll have to let you ride mine someday if we can ever hook up for a ride. Maybe I can make it down there to San Antonio sometime this fall.
I will agree with you on the overpriced part though. I bought a $10 chrome battery cover that I had to pay $35 for, a chrome electrical box cover that should have sold for $25 for $80. Would have bought elsewhere but no one else offers those two particular items to fit my scooter.
As far as teeth rattling... these newer Harleys are amazingly smooth, have nice ride qualities and are generaly comfortable. Also, havn't seen any oil leaking or oil consumtion yet. Granted, I only have 500 miles on it right now.
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they put in rubber motor mounts in Harleys some time ago. got rid of the kicker.
one of my guys at work has a dresser looking Harley with a lot of engine work done... cnc ported heads, cam big bore etc. he also has a suzuki hai... whatever... takes turns riding em. The Harley is no slouch. The suzuki is faster but it sounds like crap and has a laughable seating position. I doubt I will ever notice one going by or in a parking lot... not even worth a glance. esthetically unpleasing. The Harley sounds great and looks great. I can tell from a block away that it has a nice little cam in it.
Riding is more than being the fastest but you can be very fast with a Harley if that is what you want. If I was ponly concerned with that I would by the BossHog in 502/502.
lazs
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
Hehe Trey,
I know that was a troll, I'll have to let you ride mine someday if we can ever hook up for a ride. Maybe I can make it down there to San Antonio sometime this fall.
I will agree with you on the overpriced part though. I bought a $10 chrome battery cover that I had to pay $35 for, a chrome electrical box cover that should have sold for $25 for $80. Would have bought elsewhere but no one else offers those two particular items to fit my scooter.
As far as teeth rattling... these newer Harleys are amazingly smooth, have nice ride qualities and are generaly comfortable. Also, havn't seen any oil leaking or oil consumtion yet. Granted, I only have 500 miles on it right now.
Looking forward to it Mark. Yup, I was trolling, and I am disappointed:D
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Originally posted by lazs2
they put in rubber motor mounts in Harleys some time ago. got rid of the kicker.
one of my guys at work has a dresser looking Harley with a lot of engine work done... cnc ported heads, cam big bore etc. he also has a suzuki hai... whatever... takes turns riding em. The Harley is no slouch. The suzuki is faster but it sounds like crap and has a laughable seating position. I doubt I will ever notice one going by or in a parking lot... not even worth a glance. esthetically unpleasing. The Harley sounds great and looks great. I can tell from a block away that it has a nice little cam in it.
Riding is more than being the fastest but you can be very fast with a Harley if that is what you want. If I was only concerned with that I would by the BossHog in 502/502.
lazs
Lazs-
Thats a Hayabusa. Yea its slightly faster. I think it is actually capable of 200+MPH, hopwever Suzuki has limited the speed on it to 183 MPH for safety reasons...LOL. The seating position is rather aggressive, but it seems comfortable and those that I have spoke with that own one testify to that. It all boils down to what the individual wants.
Here is my bike. It has a good seating position, 142 HP, 10.5 second 1/4 mile, 45 mpg, and it fits my needs for giving me the fun factor I require. The acceleration on this thing is exillerating.
(http://home.satx.rr.com/pointblank/films/Blue%20Fizzy.jpg)
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Originally posted by lazs2
they put in rubber motor mounts in Harleys some time ago. got rid of the kicker.
one of my guys at work has a dresser looking Harley with a lot of engine work done... cnc ported heads, cam big bore etc. he also has a suzuki hai... whatever... takes turns riding em. The Harley is no slouch. The suzuki is faster but it sounds like crap and has a laughable seating position. I doubt I will ever notice one going by or in a parking lot... not even worth a glance. esthetically unpleasing. The Harley sounds great and looks great. I can tell from a block away that it has a nice little cam in it.
Riding is more than being the fastest but you can be very fast with a Harley if that is what you want. If I was ponly concerned with that I would by the BossHog in 502/502.
lazs
in 2001 or 2002 they started counter-balancing the pistons with a weight on the flywheel to cancel out engine vibrations. they call it the twin cam 88B.
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Originally posted by lazs2
If I was only concerned with that I would by the BossHog in 502/502.
lazs
I just that BossHoss on the History channel. Holy HP Batman!. I am impressed:)
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Yep, The Boss Hoss is the fastest production bike in the world.
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here's my V-Twin...... a Harley wanna be, but still respectable IMO.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87002&highlight=gonna+take+this+out+tomorrow
PS, can you ID the car in the pic?
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
Dang guys! Lighten up! This is a thread about Harleys...isn't
Mark, I never would have even responded to MiniD if it weren't for the fact my wife and I are attending the West Coast Mini Con. Like I said, I've retired from posting, but my concern is that we'll be sitting down to eat dinner and MiniD will start in on me over my marriage or whatever from the next table.
I really don't want to have to take MiniD on a long walk on the beach to try and calm him down while my wife enjoys herself at the banquet.
Not with all those FDBs that will be there.
Now leave me alone and let me rest in peace.
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LOL Airhead.
I miss your posts.
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Originally posted by NUKE
here's my V-Twin...... a Harley wanna be, but still respectable IMO.
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87002&highlight=gonna+take+this+out+tomorrow
PS, can you ID the car in the pic?
Never did find the car Nuke. Cool bike and great color! Is that a Honda Shadow?
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ammo... I rode both bikes. The suzuki is faster. Not world of difference faster but faster... the Harley sounds better and the suzuki is horrible to ride. You feel like the doctor has told yu to assume the position for your rectal. You look like a fool riding those sport bikes and I couldn't tell yours from his in a parking lot except for color, and I see his allmost every day.
I wouldn't ride the suzuki where people might see me. I would ride the late model Harley but... I would just as soon ride an old troublehead or pan... even a knuck. Something with a kick starter.
I have ridden/driven a lot of very fast things. It's not everything. It's important to have the capability but for the street... I can get by with a little less than 200 mph capability if I don't have to give up.... attitude? Feel? I don't know... It't just that with the sport bikes... the only fun you can have on em is edge of death. cruising on em is pointless and not very fun. And... I am not very sensitive but... people look like dorks on em.
Might buy a boss hog just for chuckles.. waiting for one with a clutch tho.
lazs
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Mark, I never would have even responded to MiniD if it weren't for the fact my wife and I are attending the West Coast Mini Con. Like I said, I've retired from posting, but my concern is that we'll be sitting down to eat dinner and MiniD will start in on me over my marriage or whatever from the next table.
I really don't want to have to take MiniD on a long walk on the beach to try and calm him down while my wife enjoys herself at the banquet.
Not with all those FDBs that will be there.
Now leave me alone and let me rest in peace.
lol Airhead :D
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Originally posted by lazs2
ammo... I rode both bikes. The suzuki is faster. Not world of difference faster but faster
The Hayabusa is over three seconds faster in the 1/4 mile, which as you know, is a world of difference faster
Originally posted by lazs2
the Harley sounds better
No way! That thing is obnoxious sounding.
Originally posted by lazs2
I have ridden/driven a lot of very fast things. It's not everything. It's important to have the capability but for the street... I can get by with a little less than 200 mph capability if I don't have to give up.... attitude? Feel? I don't know... It't just that with the sport bikes... the only fun you can have on em is edge of death. cruising on em is pointless and not very fun. And... I am not very sensitive but... people look like dorks on em.
lazs
I dunno lazs, I am glad we live in this great country where I can know your wrong and disagree freely. You are right about speed isnt everything though, but it sure is fun when you happen to have it around.
later
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The Boss Hoss is way faster any which way you look at it, 0-30 0-60, 0-100, 1/4 mile plus top end ( around 240mph) :)
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
Never did find the car Nuke. Cool bike and great color! Is that a Honda Shadow?
oh lol, I just caught your post ...hehhe Look real hard for the car in the pic, it's in at least 2 places in shiny areas :)
My bike is the Honda VTX 1800cc v twin
Sir, you have a really sweet bike!
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ammo... you didn't read what i wrote... the Harley dresser he ownbs is far from stock... it is about 2 sec faster in the quarter than stock. this puts it within a sec or less of the suzukui... I would say that "faster but not a world of difference faster" is an apt description for the suzuki in question. He rides both bikes.
lazs
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So Laz, what cam does he have in the dresser? I put an SE4 in my Heritage Softail, along with the ignition, jet kit, etc. etc - good grunt low range but am thinking about changing it out for an SE1 or some other.
You didnt, by chance, ever hear of a guy named Len Soares did you?
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Ya know bonden... he doesn't even know! It all came as a "performance package" and he didn't even install it himself. The "pamplet" that he showed me didn't even give valve timoing specs.... refering to the cam as "a performance cam" what the hell is that? No CFM numbers on the heads.... nothing. still... it does perform well.
soames.... nope... what else did he go by?
lazs
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Originally posted by NUKE
The Boss Hoss is way faster any which way you look at it, 0-30 0-60, 0-100, 1/4 mile plus top end ( around 240mph) :)
I would love to see the FOOL that would even consider trying to go 240MPH on a boss hog! Forget if the power to weight ratio says it can do it I doubt the frame geometry could handle over 150mph. My bet is it would shake its head so bad it would pitch the rider right off the bike.
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Originally posted by NUKE
oh lol, I just caught your post ...hehhe Look real hard for the car in the pic, it's in at least 2 places in shiny areas :)
My bike is the Honda VTX 1800cc v twin
Sir, you have a really sweet bike!
Finally found the car :) I am guessing either a Taurus SHO or one of the Hundays.
Thank you, I am really enjoying it.
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Laz - dunno what he went by. Last time I saw him he said he was ill - next thing I know his muffler shop is closed so ,,,,,, don't know any more than that right now.
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Sorry I mised it lazs, I am getting old I guess. Even so, a second at the strip would be considerable. In terms of car lengths, that would be about 15. I would call that getting "whipped".
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Ammo... I know what a second at the strip is. It is more like 6 car lengths tho. Still... you wouldn't notice that much. when you get down past about the 11's it's all way fast. I don't hink that most of the guys here that ride these sport bikes could handle a 10 sec quarter mile run. It really isn't that easy.
ice... I know only one guy with a Bosshog and he said that at about 120 the bike feels like it is on rails... no real sensation of speed at all... solid as a rock. the low rpm of the engine adds to the illusion. I don't think I would take one to 240 either tho. Or any motorcycle except at bonniville maybe.
lazs
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Hi Lazs-
Not that I really care, but I ran the numbers anyway. Lets take a camaro, or corvette, or similar style. The car is running in the 10-11 secod range, and rolls through the traps at 125 MPH. That translates to 183 FPS, divided by 14.5 feet for the car length, we get around 13 car lengths. I was off by a couple.
ammo
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I guess different people ride for different reasons. If someone's scooter outran mine by 20 lengths at a drag strip it would not matter a whit to me. I don't race my scooter nor do I intend ever to do so. Especially not on a public street, road, or freeway. I bought mine so I could "cruise", heavy accent on the "Cruise". Maybe even "cruise" my way down the highway to another town. Life is too short to begin with, why tempt fate with an ultra fast scooter? If your not going to use it's capabilities, why bother having em.?
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Good analogy Mark, different stroke for different folks.
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ammo... I did drag race quite a bit... your numbers are spot on but..... you are wrong. in fact... it is possible for two cars to cross the line at about the same time with a difference of a second in et. Most of you are not capable of winning races at the drags when you have a second advantage in potential over your opponent when the times we are talking about are below the 10's. If you don't belive me I would suggest that you take your 9 second sport bikes to the drags during the "run what ya brung' "grudge nite" or whatever your local track calls the time open for the public to run.
lazs
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The truth is, I dont have any experience racing my scooter, or any other scooter. However, I have alot of experience racing 4 wheelers. I enjoy it immensely, but my checking account and curent obligations don't support it.
I suppose you are talking about bracket racing, which is what I have experience in. The race is over in the first 60 feet , as you know.
So lets summarize. I am stubborn, you are stubborn, I like you, you like me, you dont like sport bikes (and possibly their owners?), I don't like harleys ( I do like other cruisers however), and we both like really hot furballs. I can live with that
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well..... yeah.
Be careful out there buddy. One minute you are a handsome well formed lad and the next.... 5 surgeons are trying to keep you alive and figure out what parts they can save.
lazs
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I was on my way home from the Lakes, and about 8 miles from home I made history. I saw a couple of HDs in my rearview mirror, so I let them pass me. History was made when, for the first time I can remember, I saw a Harley exceed 30mph. They did all of 65 along the Fair Mile coming into Henley-on-Thames. I had to change down into 5th to avoid overrunning them.
My question is: Why do HD engines always sound like crap? Listen to European or Japanese bike engines, and you can tell you're listening to a well tuned machine. A Harley sounds like a bag of nails, or at best a Briggs & Stratton lawnmower engine with a blown head gasket.
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uh-oh......let the shelling begin :D
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Originally posted by -ammo-
I don't like harleys ( I do like other cruisers however)
What is it in particular you don't like about Harleys? How many have you ridden Trey? You like "other" cruisers, is there a stigma about Harley Davidson motorcycles that turns you off? Reason I question you is because I have always thought of you as an intelligent and reasonable person. I used to have less than positive view of them myself but since they have improved the manufacturing and design of these scooters I was finally able to appreciate them for what they were meant to be.
Are you associating the machinery with some of the individuals that ride them? I find it puzzling. As I said before, different strokes for different folks. :)
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Originally posted by beet1e
My question is: Why do HD engines always sound like crap? Listen to European or Japanese bike engines, and you can tell you're listening to a well tuned machine. A Harley sounds like a bag of nails, or at best a Briggs & Stratton lawnmower engine with a blown head gasket.
Well...( I just considered the source of these comments ) I suppose we all have different tastes not only in what we percieve to be beautifull but what sounds good to us. I like the sound of a well tuned engine. Ducatis, Harleys, and other V twins sound different than inline 4s and two strokes. I like the sound of each. I also like the sound of big block auto engines and high revving multivalved F1 engines. If I had to listen to one for an extended period of time though I would prefer something with a low frequency sound such as a V-twin or big block.
My new Harley has the factory installed exhaust system on it. I prefer it to the louder versions available from aftermarket companies. It still has that great low frequency throb to it inherent in the design and I don't find it intrusive.
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
What is it in particular you don't like about Harleys? How many have you ridden Trey? You like "other" cruisers, is there a stigma about Harley Davidson motorcycles that turns you off? Reason I question you is because I have always thought of you as an intelligent and reasonable person. I used to have less than positive view of them myself but since they have improved the manufacturing and design of these scooters I was finally able to appreciate them for what they were meant to be.
Are you associating the machinery with some of the individuals that ride them? I find it puzzling. As I said before, different strokes for different folks. :)
I guess its the price thing for me, and that, IMO, the Japanese and the Triumph bikes give more for the dollar. There is a huge Harley following, but I don't get it. No, I have not road one, so I cant comment on that. I think simply because of their storied history, the only really competitive American scooter company, they demand a high price. But hey, people are paying for it so the market is definately there. Do you think that Harley owners cheerfully wave at me on my sportbike as we pass ways? I certainly wave at them, as a rider you know that is the standard behavior.
I hope you will still consider me an intelligent and reasonable person, I have not changed. Hope to see you either here or in Ft. Worth.
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I can certainly understand the price thing. The main criteria I used when I decided to purchase a new scooter was that it be designed, manufactured, and owned by an US company. There is not a lot of choices there unless you like V twins. Harleys, Indians, and a gaggle of Harley type custom clones are the only choices out there matching my criteria.
P.S. I have found it interesting that most sport bike riders or Japanese cruiser riders won't return a wave. I'm getting to the point I wonder if it's worth it. (the waving I mean :) )
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beetle... you would probly say that the small block in my Healey sounds like it is not in tune or has a blown head gasket or something.... at least at idle. I don't think we would hear much out of you tho at 6500 rpm shifting into third.
believe me.... your girfriend thinks they sound great.
When I first rode jap bikes... I had only rode Harleys and british 40 inchers.... I thought... either the Harley and the brit bikes are motorcyes and these jap bikes are something else or vice versa... the Harleys and brit bikes were around longer so I went with the former idea... Never rode any jap bike no matter how fast.... that I would like to actually own.
lazs
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Lazs! I would love to hear the engines in both your Healey and your Elk. Hoping you'll bring one of those cars to the con. I always loved the sound of American V8 engines... I also love the sound of high performance German engines - VW V6 and BMW 6/V8 etc. I'll want to go for a ride in Ripsnort's Bimmer...
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Originally posted by Mark Luper
P.S. I have found it interesting that most sport bike riders or Japanese cruiser riders won't return a wave. I'm getting to the point I wonder if it's worth it. (the waving I mean :) )
I suspect they are so surprised to get a wave from a Harley rider they're too stunned to wave back. I'm surprised they don't fall right out of the saddle.