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Title: Ford Forty-Nine
Post by: Dune on August 25, 2003, 12:26:33 PM
Has anyone seen one of these?  Saw one in person this summer in Michigan.  One of the coolest looking cars I've seen in awhile.

(http://supercars.ifn.cx/forty_nine/picture11.jpg)

http://supercars.ifn.cx/forty_nine/gallery.php
Title: Ford Forty-Nine
Post by: funkedup on August 25, 2003, 12:32:53 PM
Wow, maybe there is a future for the US car industry?
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Post by: Ripsnort on August 25, 2003, 12:35:27 PM
That is appealing! Too bad 95% of concept cars never make it into production from what they looked like in the proto-type stage.
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Post by: Mini D on August 25, 2003, 12:35:33 PM
I heard ford was cancelling the Thunderbird line.  I'll have to check into that.

MiniD
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Post by: nuchpatrick on August 25, 2003, 12:51:11 PM
This car reminds me of a the Old 63 Lincon Cont. with the suiside(sp) doors.  I think out of the old rides beside the 59 Caddy Contv. are the most nice looking led sled's.
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Post by: funkedup on August 25, 2003, 01:14:42 PM
If they can build that thing with a DOHC V-8 and IRS I would have to consider buying one.
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Post by: DiabloTX on August 25, 2003, 01:27:19 PM
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Originally posted by nuchpatrick
This car reminds me of a the Old 63 Lincon Cont. with the suiside(sp) doors.  I think out of the old rides beside the 59 Caddy Contv. are the most nice looking led sled's.


Why?  Because it's painted black?  It has no hint of slab sides nor any hint of blading around the headlights.  Looks like a custom '49 Mercury to me.  The REALLY nice details are the flush A and B pilars in the window area.  THAT really hints of a custom.  But the "bling-bling" 18"s blow it for me.  

The problem with cars like this is they get approved for production and wind up being so out of price range for the person who likes em that they wind being cancelled after a couple of years production.  

Here's a '63 L-C
(http://my.net-link.net/~dcline/lp_63.jpg)


Here's another view of the Ford 49:

(http://www.auto.com/photos/gallery/ford49/01ford49.jpg)

All in all its pretty cool.....for a Ford.
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Post by: Ripsnort on August 25, 2003, 01:27:44 PM
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Originally posted by funkedup
If they can build that thing with a DOHC V-8 and IRS I would have to consider buying one.


Drop a 390 hp super-charged Cobra engine (2004) and I'd have a 4-sale sign up in the Bimmer next week. :)
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Post by: DiabloTX on August 25, 2003, 01:29:33 PM
Wow, dig this really nice photo:

(http://moto.trojmiasto.pl/tapety/ford/ford_49_01_800x600.jpg)
Title: Ford Forty-Nine
Post by: Dune on August 25, 2003, 01:33:22 PM
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/naias2001-ford-original49.jpg)

One article I read said the Ford rolled out this '49 just before showing off their new toy.  I guess to show where the inspiration came from.

(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/naias2001-ford49-engine.jpg)
This is the engine for the new Forty-Nine: a 3.9-liter, DOHC, 32-valve, V-8.
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Post by: DiabloTX on August 25, 2003, 01:36:27 PM
Now THERE'S a custom!  Complete with oh-so-correct white wall tires!!  Nice Dune.
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Post by: Ripsnort on August 25, 2003, 01:43:46 PM
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Originally posted by Dune
This is the engine for the new Forty-Nine: a 3.9-liter, DOHC, 32-valve, V-8. [/B]


To quote that old lady from a commercial from yesteryear....
"Wheres the beef!?"
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Post by: funkedup on August 25, 2003, 01:46:54 PM
It's probably got a blower.
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Post by: funkedup on August 25, 2003, 01:47:28 PM
It BETTER have a blower.
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Post by: Ripsnort on August 25, 2003, 01:48:07 PM
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Originally posted by GScholz
What a gorgeous looking machine! If this "going back to once roots" catches on I predict great things for the US car industry. Stunning!


Want to tell that to Ford and the new T-Bird? Flopped big time.
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Post by: Skuzzy on August 25, 2003, 01:49:28 PM
The 49' has been around the show card circuit for several years.  Everytime Ford talks about building it, they say the all-glass roof will not make it, nor the 20" wheels.

But this car is a running prototype.  It has the 4.8 DOHC V-8 from the Mustang in it, tweaked a bit, but not up to the Cobra output.  The car features 4 wheel independent suspension.

It probably will never see production as the Thunderbird cursed any chance of Ford doing a retro looking car.  Ford just does not get it.  The T-Bird would have sold like hot cakes had they kept true to the original sport nature of the T-Bird instead of building a 2-seat luxo-boat.
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Post by: rpm on August 25, 2003, 01:50:41 PM
Ever since Chrysler went forward with their "Production Concept" line every manufacturer has been playing catch up. Hopefully this will lead to cars that are visually appealing instead of the butt ugly versions that are on the road....mainly Chevy's. Even the Chevy SSR misses the target. While it's stylish with a retractable hardtop, it's completely useless as a pickup. If they wanted a 2 seater sportster, why not go with a version of the Camero or a retro Corvette? A retro Vette would sell like the Viper did, and give it some serious competetion.
(http://www.jimrobinsongroup.com/html/newest_car_art/chevy_ssr/ssr2.jpg)
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Post by: Skuzzy on August 25, 2003, 01:57:35 PM
Easy rpm.

Same reason Chevy will not do that, is the same reason the T-Bird turned out to be a luxo-boat.

Ford is afraid of hurting Mustang sales and Chevy will not tread into the Corvettes sales area with another car.

Even Chrysler has made an error or two, but is leagues ahead of the others.  The Viper works and makes money for them as it does exactly what it looks like it does.  The Prowler, on the other hand, looked fast, but was a slug and sales flopped.
The PT looks like a little truck/panel van, so no one expects it to keep up with a Viper.

I don't know who the American card makers use for focus groups, but they need to fire them.
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Post by: rpm on August 25, 2003, 02:04:14 PM
True Skuzzy, GM has always been timid in the sports car arena. I remember them spanking Pontiac for the GTO and Olds for the 442 in the 60's.
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Post by: lazs2 on August 25, 2003, 02:41:45 PM
yeah... a real future for the American auto industry... and foreign auto industry... Nostalgia..  the '49 is suppossed to harken to the old 49-51 shoebox fords.    Fake mini coopers.... modern 53 chevy pickups... baby birds (fake 57 tbirds) little frontg wheel drive sedan deliveries...  Blowers.... everything old is new again.

lazs
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Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on August 25, 2003, 02:44:51 PM
I wish for a big chrome front air intake grid. The rear is sweet. The hood is too squarish, like the new Tbird. Fun interior. I would buy the car, and put some custom chrome grid on the front.

Talking about American car industry choices, those new boxy caddies .... yuk!
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Post by: Skuzzy on August 25, 2003, 03:05:55 PM
You think Cadillac would have learned from the Pontiac Aztec.  Afterall, all the new caddies all look like squished, malformed Aztec's to me.

Cadillac won't be around for too many more years if they keep churning out garbage like they have lately.

I wouldn't mind the Thunderbird, IF Ford had dropped a decent engine in it, with a good 6 speed standard, reworked the suspension system, better brakes, a decent exhaust note and trim about 800 pounds of fat from it.  Then it would be a really nice car.
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Post by: midnight Target on August 25, 2003, 03:06:47 PM
Shoulda hung on to my old '57 Nomad....
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Post by: Ripsnort on August 25, 2003, 03:10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
The T-Bird would have sold like hot cakes had they kept true to the original sport nature of the T-Bird instead of building a 2-seat luxo-boat.


Spot on!  I looked at them in 2001 , and then saw the engine output and 2-seater only option. See ya!
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Post by: Skuzzy on August 25, 2003, 03:10:26 PM
My Dad has one MT, looks like new as well.  He also has a 54 Ford Coupe that is completely mint.
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Post by: nuchpatrick on August 25, 2003, 03:16:42 PM
Outch Diablo.. you found the wrong model Cont. lol!!! Thats UGLY!!

The model I really like is the 62 Continental due to the rear end stlye.

(http://www.americandreamcars.com/1962lincoln4dr.jpg)
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Post by: midnight Target on August 25, 2003, 03:18:39 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
My Dad has one MT, looks like new as well.  He also has a 54 Ford Coupe that is completely mint.


LOL, ours was just the family wagon that I inherited as a kid. At the time I thought it was an ugly POS. Oooops
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Post by: Skuzzy on August 25, 2003, 03:21:53 PM
:)  I think it is a cool looking wagon.  He uses it for hauling engine blocks to/from the machine shop.
He uses his 54 for golf.