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Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: MAJ KONIG on August 25, 2003, 03:33:34 PM
I have found that when I drink Gentleman Jack when I am flying I have a much prosperous outcome. But, when I drink tequilla I tend to get all pissed off and try to run over people in my tiger tank(which usually fails). Does anyone else out there experience anything like this?



BUZZED AND BEFUDELED:)
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: JB73 on August 25, 2003, 04:23:19 PM
i can not name the certain thing that does it but...

there is a substance in tequila that come from the plant it is distilled from. this chemical reacts with your natural chemicals in your brain and makes you prone towards violent or confrontational thinking.

there have been scientific studies about this but the one i read was in a magazine (IIRC readers digest).

stay away from the evil drink designed ta-kill-ya :D


BTW wrong forum.. this will prolly get moved.
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: ccvi on August 25, 2003, 05:28:20 PM
This isn't a thread about Tequ vs. Jack.

It's about the influence of drugs while flying.


Who might consider that offtopic? :confused:
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: Tumor on August 25, 2003, 07:48:05 PM
HEY RUDE!!

.....This thread "should" help explain why some folks fly over ya at ungodly alt and never attempt to engage.  Think about it.  :D
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: airbumba on August 26, 2003, 04:40:46 PM
If you're gunna do the wobbly mexican, ya gotta drink MEZCAL! Not Tequila. Monte Alban does it for me.

If ya feel must drink Tequila, stay away from any white tequila, that's total crap. Try Del Dueno.

cheers

bumba
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: AcId on August 27, 2003, 08:25:27 AM
Jb73 if thats true.....that explains why I don't allow myself to drink Tequila anymore :rolleyes:

I always just end up drunk & pissed off....not a good combo.
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: Sandman on August 27, 2003, 05:18:49 PM
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Originally posted by airbumba
If you're gunna do the wobbly mexican, ya gotta drink MEZCAL! Not Tequila. Monte Alban does it for me.

If ya feel must drink Tequila, stay away from any white tequila, that's total crap. Try Del Dueno.

cheers

bumba


Blanco is fine. Just stay away from the mixtos.
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: vorticon on August 27, 2003, 11:07:35 PM
a few shots of jack before flying usually helps...
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: trolla on August 28, 2003, 08:33:33 AM
tequila is the devils mouthwater, and we ackt like it when drinking to much of it lol :D

whiskey/cognac you can go slow and enjoy, guess that is the difference (for me)
Title: drink up!
Post by: Eagler on August 28, 2003, 09:08:39 AM
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Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: airbumba on August 28, 2003, 12:39:13 PM
..pass the beans and quiante sauce...mmmmm.



Bumba
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: CornGiveAway on August 28, 2003, 09:55:53 PM
Wild Turkey 101:)

  I think the second pass on the filtering with the Gent Jack is
the key to its mellow buzz,man that **** is smooth.
 But also,if your buying the good jack,you probly had a good
day,lookin to treat yourself good,and you will perform better due
to your state of mind.
But if ya buyin the takillya,you likly feeling alittle like raising hell
and kickin some ass,which produces more stupid choices.

My 2 cents Corn
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: hyena426 on August 29, 2003, 12:59:41 AM
if i drink tequila i make sure its 100% agava,,,taste tons better,,hehe,,i like makers mark better than jack,,,it goes down alot smoother,,,but jack is twice as cheap,,,i even like some scotch,,but it has to be the good stuff,,cutty shark is pure nasty,,but a good 12 or 15 year old glenfidish goes down like water and messes you up very fast:),,lol
Title: Re: drink up!
Post by: trolla on August 29, 2003, 01:20:46 AM
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Originally posted by Eagler
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this liver musta had some tequila shots my god !!
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: Sandman on August 29, 2003, 01:21:29 AM
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Originally posted by hyena426
if i drink tequila i make sure its 100% agava,,,taste tons better,,hehe,,i like makers mark better than jack,,,it goes down alot smoother,,,but jack is twice as cheap,,,i even like some scotch,,but it has to be the good stuff,,cutty shark is pure nasty,,but a good 12 or 15 year old glenfidish goes down like water and messes you up very fast:),,lol


Can't really compare scotch to tequila though... there's one really big difference. Generally, all tequilas taste fairly similar, but scotch... there can be a vast difference in the taste of scotch. I'm willing to bet that if you try a nice 100% blue agave anejo and you don't like it, you won't like any other tequila either.

I'll agree. Glen Fiddich is some tasty stuff.
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: hyena426 on August 29, 2003, 01:29:00 AM
i wasnt comparing the 2 against each othere,,,,just mentioning alcohalls that i like:),,i had tarantula blue tequila,,but i didnt like it as much as the 100% clear agava juice,,,that stuff just has a great taste,,atleast the few kinds i have tried,,as for scotch i just been breaking into the good brands and nice single malts,,,but so far i enjoy it,,and i notice more ya spend in scotch the better it gets,,,i got a bottle of laphroaig 10 year,,costed 40bucks,,but i dont think i like it as much as glenfiddich<~~forgot how it was spelled,,lol
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: tapakeg on August 29, 2003, 06:22:01 AM
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glenfidish goes down like water



you don't know Glen Fiddich from Glen Campbell  !!!!!!
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 29, 2003, 07:13:39 AM
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Originally posted by hyena426
if i drink tequila i make sure its 100% agava




By Mexican law, all tequila has to be 100% agave, blue agave to be exact.  In case you guys didn't know either, tequila is the same thing as Mezcal, both are made from agave plants.  Only reason why tequila is called tequila is that it's made in the town of Tequila in the Mexican state of Jalisco.  



ack-ack
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: Shiva on August 29, 2003, 08:55:10 AM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
By Mexican law, all tequila has to be 100% agave, blue agave to be exact.  In case you guys didn't know either, tequila is the same thing as Mezcal, both are made from agave plants.


Close, but no cigar.

There are two basic types of tequila, 100% blue agave (cien por ciento de agave) tequila and mixto. The 100% blue agave tequilas are distilled entirely from the fermented juice of the agave. All 100% agave tequilas have to be distilled and bottled in Mexico. If the bottle does not say 100% blue agave, the tequila is mixto and may have been distilled from as little as 60% agave juice with other sugars (the term 'mixto', however, rarely appears on bottle labels; look for '100% agave' to tell whether or not it's mixto). Mezcal, on the other hand, can be made from any of the eight other varieties of agave. All tequilas are mezcal, but not all mezcals are tequila. Tequila and mezcal are similar, however in the amount of alcohol in the bottle (around 38-40%), although mezcals tend to be a little stronger.

Mezcal piñas - the sugar-rich heart of the agave - are baked in a conical, rock-lined pit oven over charcoal, and covered with layers of palm-fiber mats and earth, giving mezcal a strong, smoky flavour. Tequila piñas are baked or steamed in above-ground ovens or autoclaves. Most mezcal is produced around the city of Oaxaca (and can officially be produced in the states of Guerrero, Durango, San Luis Potosi and Zacatecas). Tequila comes from the northwestern state of Jalisco (and a few nearby areas).

There are four varieties of tequila -- blanco, the freshly-distilled young tequila, gold, which is just blanco tequila with caramel coloring added (most gold tequilas are mixtos), reposado, which has been 'rested' in oak barrels from two months to a year, long enough to acquire a golden color and a more peppery flavor, and añejo, which is reposado that has been aged more than a year (but few are aged more than three or four years), and has a smoother, more woody aroma. Both 100% agave and mixto tequilas can be found in all three varieties above

There are regional drinks and local homebrews distilled from agave sap. These include  sotol, bacanora  and raicilla, as well as some simply referred to by the traditional name of  'mezcal.'  Many of these regional drinks have only recently been legalized for production in Mexico, although distribution is still very limited. Pulque is also made from agave, but it is fermented without being distilled, so has a low alcohol content.

'Pulque' is a Spanish corruption of the Nahuatl 'octili poliqhui'. The Spaniards brewed pulque, but the woody taste wasn't attractive; they tried distillation, but what came out was akin to the roughest 'shine. They discovered that cooking the agave pulp before fermentation produced a sweeter juice; the fermented cooked pulp was called 'mezcal wine', which was then distilled into mezcal. Spanish brandy producers tried to shut down mezcal production with about the same success that English brandy distillers had trying to shut down rum production in the British colonies (i.e., none).

In 1656 the village of Tequila (named for the local Ticuilas Indians) was granted a charter by the governor of New Galicia. Tax records of the time show that mezcal was already being produced in the area. This mezcal, made from the local blue agave, established a reputation for having a superior taste, and barrels of the "Mezcal wine from Tequila" were soon being shipped to nearby Guadalajara and more distant cities such as the silver-mining boomtowns of San Luis Potosí and Aguascalientes.

The oldest of the still-existing distilleries in Tequila dates back to 1795, when the Spanish Crown granted a distiller’s license to a local padrone by the name of José Cuervo. In 1805 a distillery was established that would ultimately come under the control of the Sauza family. By the mid 1800s there were dozens of distilleries and millions of agave plants under cultivation around Tequila in what had become the state of Jalisco. Gradually, the locally-produced Mezcal came to be known as Tequila (just as the grape brandy from the Cognac region in France came to be known simply as Cognac).

In the 1930s the practice of adding non-agave sugars to the aguamiel, or "honey water," was introduced and quickly adopted by many Tequila producers. These mixto (mixed) Tequilas had a less intense taste than 100% blue agave Tequilas, but this relative blandness also made them more appealing to non-native consumers, particularly those in the United States.
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: airbumba on August 29, 2003, 09:57:40 AM
Great info. It's odd, since this thread came up, I seen a little segment of the dudes making the Mezcal. Them plants are huge !

That's it , I'm gettin a bottle. UNFORTUNATLY all i can get up here is Jose Cuevro :(

Check this bottle out, must be some smoooooth stuff.

http://www.bevmo.com/productinfo.asp?sku=00000020093&area=spirits&category=&sid=03&find_spec=&leftmenu=



Bumba
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: nuchpatrick on August 29, 2003, 11:37:55 AM
I find I get more kills while drinking Jack.  I never drink Te-Kill-ya while flying.  It makes the room spin..lol
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 29, 2003, 11:56:54 AM
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Originally posted by Shiva
Close, but no cigar.

There are two basic types of tequila, 100% blue agave (cien por ciento de agave) tequila and mixto.  



 Mixto is just a watered down version of tequila to make it more appealing to those 'North of the border' and no rightful Mexican would consider 'Mixto' true tequila.


Ack-Ack
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: Shiva on August 29, 2003, 01:06:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Mixto is just a watered down version of tequila to make it more appealing to those 'North of the border' and no rightful Mexican would consider 'Mixto' true tequila.


You either didn't read all the way down my posting or just had to put up  a rejoinder:

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In the 1930s the practice of adding non-agave sugars to the aguamiel, or "honey water," was introduced and quickly adopted by many Tequila producers. These mixto (mixed) Tequilas had a less intense taste than 100% blue agave Tequilas, but this relative blandness also made them more appealing to non-native consumers, particularly those in the United States.


Even though I live in SoCal, I still know people who've never had any tequila but the mixtos; for many of them, it's an acknowledged cheapness -- and the mixtos are cheaper than the 100% agave tequilas. The same kind of people who drink jug wines...
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 29, 2003, 01:10:11 PM
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Originally posted by Shiva
You either didn't read all the way down my posting


Nope, just the Mexican blood in me :)

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Even though I live in SoCal, I still know people who've never had any tequila but the mixtos; for many of them, it's an acknowledged cheapness -- and the mixtos are cheaper than the 100% agave tequilas.



Unfortunately, most of the tequila sold throughout the world is of the mixto variety, so it's not surprising that is all some people get to taste.  If you really want to taste an excellent pure 100% blue agave tequila, I highly recommend Tequila Herradura.  There's nothing like sipping a fine tequila after a hard days work.


What part of San Diego are you in?  I'm down in the South Bay in Chulajuana...err Chula Vista.

ack-ack
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: MAJ KONIG on August 29, 2003, 01:54:05 PM
whooooo, just tried some "Single Barrel Jack Daniels" man the stuff is awesome, but it's running about $30 a pint. I guess I'll go to the class 6 and see what they got it listed for. I will say this those Tennessee boys can make some good straight whiskey.
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: hyena426 on August 29, 2003, 03:37:48 PM
wow good info,,i just know i was told when buying tequila to make sure the bottle said 100% agave,,,and i notice it taste tons better than old jose,,,and i notice it allways cost more too,,anywere from 30 too 100 bucks a 5th,,lol,,i stick to the 40 too 50 dollar range,,,still taste good with out busting my wallet too bad,,good alcohall allways cost,,just like glenfiddich,,it cost,,but its so much smoother than cheap old scotch,,cheap scotch taste like drinking a wet cigar,,ewwwwwwwwwwwww,,lol
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: hyena426 on August 29, 2003, 03:52:50 PM
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whooooo, just tried some "Single Barrel Jack Daniels" man the stuff is awesome, but it's running about $30 a pint. I guess I'll go to the class 6 and see what they got it listed for. I will say this those Tennessee boys can make some good straight whiskey.
i havent had the single barrel jack,,is it pretty smooth? you ever drink makers mark? i really like that stuff so far for whiskey,,,its only about 25bucks a 5th and its pretty smooth
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: tapakeg on August 29, 2003, 05:35:10 PM
By Mexican Law ALL Tequila must be at least 51% blue agave.  

Also, if they mix 99% Anejo with 1% Repasado, it must be called a Repasado.
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: airbumba on August 29, 2003, 05:40:32 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
If you really want to taste an excellent pure 100% blue agave tequila, I highly recommend Tequila Herradura.
ack-ack


Which one Ack-Ack, this one:

http://www.bevmo.com/productinfo.asp?area=spirits&find_spec=&catname=Tequila

Cause i'll have to order it thru a special site due to customs problems.

Bumba
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 29, 2003, 05:53:52 PM
This one.

Tequila Herradura (http://www.beerliquors.com/buy/liquors/herradura.htm)

It's easy to identify, it's the one with the horse shoe on the label.


ack-ack
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: guttboy on September 02, 2003, 07:07:59 PM
You guys need to look down in some of the planes you are flying in.....

Jack Daniels, Vodka...etc.....just hit that view down button!

Me personally I fly drinking BEER!  If I were to hit the hard stuff on a squad night for 6 hours or so I would be dead! LOL!


:D
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: troxel on September 02, 2003, 07:31:10 PM
No can do on the beer while flying.  The constant purping screws up my already bad aim, not to mention the inevitable piss break.  That just makes me an AFK flaming ball 9 out of 10 times.

I tend to drink quite a bit of vodka while flying though.  Belvedere is the best.  The only bad side effect is that I get a bit blabby on ch 1 :eek:

Whiskey, particularly scotch, is my 2nd choice - Islay and Speyside malts.  I haven't found a highland that I've fallen for yet.  If I venture into the tequila, I usually only touch Patrone (I'm not much of a tequila drinker, but know well enough to "Stay away from Jose").

J.D is pretty far down my list.  Jack is a friend to noone.  Anyway, how good can a whiskey be that is distilled in a dry county?  ...I can take a hint ;)
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: Sandman on September 02, 2003, 08:29:38 PM
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Originally posted by Shiva
Even though I live in SoCal, I still know people who've never had any tequila but the mixtos; for many of them, it's an acknowledged cheapness -- and the mixtos are cheaper than the 100% agave tequilas. The same kind of people who drink jug wines...


In other words... Jose Cuervo is not your friend.
Title: Jack Daniels vs Tequilla
Post by: Sandman on September 02, 2003, 08:31:05 PM
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Originally posted by airbumba
Which one Ack-Ack, this one:

http://www.bevmo.com/productinfo.asp?area=spirits&find_spec=&catname=Tequila

Cause i'll have to order it thru a special site due to customs problems.

Bumba


Just try some Cazadores Reposado... It's difficult to do any better without spending far too much.