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Title: Internet geeks (help)
Post by: Chaos68 on August 27, 2003, 07:50:01 PM
I have a PC and a friend is moving into the basement and she has a Mac (yuck).  I only have one internet line running into my house.

My question is:  If my PC was hooked up upstairs and i hooked her mac up downstairs could we get online at the same time? This is with out routers or a hub. Just both computers hooked up to one internet line. I would think it could work but i might see a slow down in speed but im not really sure.

Its been a long time since i worked at the cable company and i forgot most of the crap dealing with upload speed and download speed with dual computers.
Title: Internet geeks (help)
Post by: vorticon on August 27, 2003, 09:02:35 PM
id suggest using a router...there not to expensive


since you dont want to use one you would have to ask you provider about it they all have different policies and such
Title: Internet geeks (help)
Post by: Martlet on August 27, 2003, 09:09:44 PM
Yeah, it completely depends on whether they will provide you with another IP.  A router would be the way to go.  Wireless, if you are going to be far apart.
Title: Internet geeks (help)
Post by: Maniac on August 28, 2003, 06:37:20 AM
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Wireless, if you are going to be far apart.


I always smile when people suggest wireless routers :) , I wish all my neihbours had Wireless hehe!
Title: Internet geeks (help)
Post by: takeda on August 28, 2003, 06:50:16 AM
If you are dealing just with two machines and both have a free ethernet interface, you could just get a crossed ethernet cable and hook up both machines with it and do NAT through your box. No need for more IPs from your ISP or a router or a hub. That's what I do at home, I have more than two computers, but never need more than two online at the same time.

WinXP does the internet sharing thingie off the box pretty well, for other versions I think you would need some routing software.
Title: Internet geeks (help)
Post by: T0J0 on August 28, 2003, 11:06:47 AM
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Originally posted by Maniac
I always smile when people suggest wireless routers :) , I wish all my neihbours had Wireless hehe!


I have to wonder why, nevermind dont tell us!
Title: Internet geeks (help)
Post by: Mini D on August 28, 2003, 11:13:13 AM
Hooking a PC and a mac up to the same network will cause the mac to explode.  Just a heads up.

MiniD
Title: Internet geeks (help)
Post by: Martlet on August 28, 2003, 07:08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Maniac
I always smile when people suggest wireless routers :) , I wish all my neihbours had Wireless hehe!


I always smile when people think they can tap my wireless router.  I wish all my neiGhbors tried.
Title: Internet geeks (help)
Post by: Chairboy on August 28, 2003, 08:08:15 PM
I think he wants the simple answer.

It's easy, just install a ventilation fan in a convenient closet and put a GFCI outlet in on its own circuit.  Simply put a computer in there running Linux w/ snort & a good firewall setup and configure it as a DHCP server.  A good old fashioned Xeon will do good as your router, and any old LCD monitor will be fine for controlling it when you can't administer it remotely.  BTW, I suggest you use standard rack mounts for everything.  A 1U server will fit fine.  Then, you just put two network cards in, one to your cable modem/dsl and the other to a a Cisco 8 port 10/100 switch (also 1U, easy to screw into the rack).  All you need to do then is just punch a couple small holes in the wall around your house, thread some Cat-6 cable (or better yet, run conduit, THEN put in the Cat-6, that way you're planning for the future) through the walls to the holes and install some RJ-45 female jacks.  At that point, it's childs play for your friend to hook her mac up to the network.

Easy as cake.
Title: Internet geeks (help)
Post by: Chaos68 on August 29, 2003, 04:15:41 AM
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Originally posted by Mini D
Hooking a PC and a mac up to the same network will cause the mac to explode.  Just a heads up.

MiniD



oh man i wish! :D


thanks guys i'll pick up a router.
Title: Internet geeks (help)
Post by: Nash on August 29, 2003, 05:28:10 AM
I've got a G4 sitting right beside this PC. They connect easily using a router... and they're pretty cheap. I surf the net on my Mac while flying on the PC (both sharing one ADSL connection). All in all it works out very well.