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Title: Could this have been done in real life?
Post by: Nath-BDP on August 09, 2000, 09:00:00 AM
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Title: Could this have been done in real life?
Post by: Jochen on August 09, 2000, 09:09:00 AM
Yes.

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Title: Could this have been done in real life?
Post by: Udie on August 09, 2000, 09:38:00 AM
There's a story in the book "Baa Baa Blacksheep" when the 214 was making an attack on I think Raboul airfield. One of the f4u's flew too low between 2 trees and got something like the1st 3ft of each wing torn off.  I believe he RTB'd just fine  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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Title: Could this have been done in real life?
Post by: Dnil on August 09, 2000, 09:42:00 AM
also, the image looks worse then it really is.  I thought it was said that the graphic shows wing tip gone but really is wing tip damage.  So it may look half gone it really isnt.  Although that may be way off now that I think about it.   Hmmm.

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Title: Could this have been done in real life?
Post by: Nath-BDP on August 09, 2000, 09:52:00 AM
Well, I was in a high speed dive and pulled up... I doubt its more than just wingtips.
Title: Could this have been done in real life?
Post by: CRASH on August 09, 2000, 09:52:00 AM
A word about the ah flight model.  I had always thought that the ability to trim out of a dive while i was compressed was an ah bug.  If I was traveling so fast that my elevators weren't functional, how could the little trim tabs have any effect, right?  Well, after reading bud anderson's "to fly and fight", where he recalls that thats how they would get control back in the early model f86's when they compressed in a dive,  I dont think I'll be doubting ht's flight model again  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

From what I understand though, it was a bad connect that allowed some players to fly around with no wings showing on your front end.  
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Title: Could this have been done in real life?
Post by: Udie on August 09, 2000, 10:04:00 AM
 I think what we see is just a graphical representation of the actual damage that could be more or less dammage than we actualy see.

 Of course I could be full of ca-ca  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Udie
Title: Could this have been done in real life?
Post by: Fishu on August 09, 2000, 10:23:00 AM
You should see screenshots of me flying in B-26 without wingtips and n1k2 burning next to me in the same view  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (shot him down while flying without tips)

I also have ditched B-17 without one wingtip, which is pretty tough when that missing large wing area unbalances so much with the intact one. (I wonder if THAT would be possible)

Almost every plane in AH flies without wingtips (Bf109 is probably only one that doesnt)
C.205 does it just and just as well as spitfrie.

What heavier your plane is, that more guarantees you have that you will make home without wingtips  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Could this have been done in real life?
Post by: popeye on August 09, 2000, 10:29:00 AM
The F8F had wingtips that were DESIGNED to break off when overstressed, to save the rest of the wing and allow the pilot to RTB.  Apparently, there was some initial disagreement between pilots and designers over the definition of "overstressed".   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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[This message has been edited by popeye (edited 08-09-2000).]
Title: Could this have been done in real life?
Post by: -towd_ on August 09, 2000, 11:03:00 AM
pappy had it wrong the corsair lost one wing tip and diched on the way home.
Title: Could this have been done in real life?
Post by: Pyro on August 09, 2000, 11:25:00 AM
The pilot of this Claude had this happen during a fight when he collided with another plane.  Although he made it back to base, the plane flipped upon landing.  However, he walked away unscathed.

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Title: Could this have been done in real life?
Post by: ra on August 09, 2000, 11:36:00 AM
The outer 3 feet of the Bearcat's wings were designed to blow off if the plane exceeded 7 G's.  The test pilot had to show that a carrier landing could be made if only one of the 3 foot sections blew off.  He did it.

ra