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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Texman11 on November 30, 2001, 04:58:00 AM
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Hello All,
I know we are getting the Ki-67, but can (will) you let some hints loose about what other airframes we can start drooling over for 1.09? I am getting a little dry in the
information bottle!
Many Thanks for some excellent work
Texman
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yep, need some more info about 1.09 pls!
Knock our socks off! :eek:
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Four ship bomber formations per player. Redesigned bombsites that are LESS accurate, and redesigned strategic targets that require a severe pounding by lots and lots of bombs to destroy.
AKA, strategic saturation bombing instead of single bomb pinpoint accuracy.
Other than the Ki67, not much else. There are rumors of a Russian bomber and cargo ship/barges as well.
Hans.
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P51H
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woo HOO! 487mph at 25k.
(http://home.att.net/~historyzone/P51h.JPG)
Perk me babay! Perk me :)
Westy
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2 words:
B-29 Superfortress.
Odds? probably pretty long, but damn that Lanc is an ugly freakin plane! I nice silver B-29 is all I want for Christmas.
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Looking at the P-51 H, a question comes into mind. What was the maximum speed a prop driven plane ever reached? Cos 487mph must be near the sound barrier. Has any prop plane ever broken mach 1? Also, anyone know what the limiting factor is in prop planes? Is it aerodynamic, weight or the prop not having enough power??
I think it would be intersting to know... :cool:
BTW, the plane I would really like to see in this game...
(http://www.bilbao681.fsnet.co.uk/Antonov_KT.jpg)
How about it HT? :p
[ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: FlyingDuckSittingSwan ]
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To my knowledge, no prop plane ever broke the sound barrier, which is much higher than 487 mph.
At normal atmospheric pressure and a temperature of 20 degrees Celsius, a sound wave will travel at approximately 343 m/s; this is approximately equal to 750 miles/hour
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Originally posted by Muck:
To my knowledge, no prop plane ever broke the sound barrier, which is much higher than 487 mph.
At normal atmospheric pressure and a temperature of 20 degrees Celsius, a sound wave will travel at approximately 343 m/s; this is approximately equal to 750 miles/hour
You mean "no prop plane ever broke the sound barrier in level flight ..." right?
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Muck Wrote: B-29 Superfortress.
Odds? probably pretty long, but damn that Lanc is an ugly freakin plane! I nice silver B-29 is all I want for Christmas
Oh man... YES!!! B-29's
BOOT < guy who hates Lancs >
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Of course, Rip.
Hell, I've broken the sound barrier several times on AH, in a B-26...no wings, no tail, nose perpendicular to the ground. 750 MPh....No problem. Of course, I was no longer a prop plane at the time. I was more like a meteor.
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Cc, sound barrier alot higher then 480. There were stories about some WW2 planes who broke the sound barrier in dives, the pilots didn't live to tell about it though. RAF did alot of tests after the war, they took Griffon Spitfires, climbed like hell and then dove em straight down, most of the pilots who did this died, without reaching teh sound barrier. Allmost all, if not all planes got wrecked.
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(http://www.nzfpm.co.nz/downloads/yak3-1.jpg)
Rahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
love........
Splotch ...
oups sorry ;)
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another :
(http://www.cals.lib.ar.us/miller/images/YAK_YAK3.jpg)
for the paint job look Normandie Nieman would be great ... ;)
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I would LIVE in a Yak-3!
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I read something about Barges..still no screenies though.
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You guys were talking about props and supersonic flight? I real rec.aviation.homebuilt daily and Corky Scott, a nice guy and very intelligent one at that, touched on that subject yesterday. Here's part of what he said...
"To me, the big monkey wrench would be the prop. During WWII, a handful of fighters nibbled around the edge of the sonic region but never managed to actually go beyond, despite several who thought they had,
for several reasons.
First, the airfoils themselves were all non swept. Not good when you are trying to exceed the speed of sound. Plus the airfoils (with the exception of the P-51B and up series) were not designed for close to
mach flight. This meant that when the airplane approached Mach 1, the airflow over the wing and other appendages began to develop shockwaves long before the airplane itself actually got there. When this
happened, drag went up to the point where more power was needed, which leads us to.
Second, the prop. Props weren't designed to exceed Mach 1 and as the airplane approached that speed, the prop itself began to build up those same shockwaves that the wings and other surfaces had. This increased the drag of the prop to the point where thrust petered out. So no matter how hard the pilot hammered on the throttle (don't really think anyone did, any pilot in a fighter going this fast was REALLY scared and likely wasn't thinking about going faster) the prop just could not develop any more thrust.
So the fighter had flown up against a wall of drag, and so had the prop.
The way around this, in theory, would be to design a scimitar shaped prop blade and sweep the wings back and design them for Mach + flight."
In summary, that prop is the biggest obstacle as the shock waves set in.
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Originally posted by LePaul:
You guys were talking about props and supersonic flight? I real rec.aviation.homebuilt daily and Corky Scott, a nice guy and very intelligent one at that, touched on that subject yesterday. Here's part of what he said...
"To me, the big monkey wrench would be the prop. During WWII, a handful of fighters nibbled around the edge of the sonic region but never managed to actually go beyond, despite several who thought they had,
for several reasons.
First, the airfoils themselves were all non swept. Not good when you are trying to exceed the speed of sound. Plus the airfoils (with the exception of the P-51B and up series) were not designed for close to
mach flight. This meant that when the airplane approached Mach 1, the airflow over the wing and other appendages began to develop shockwaves long before the airplane itself actually got there. When this
happened, drag went up to the point where more power was needed, which leads us to.
Second, the prop. Props weren't designed to exceed Mach 1 and as the airplane approached that speed, the prop itself began to build up those same shockwaves that the wings and other surfaces had. This increased the drag of the prop to the point where thrust petered out. So no matter how hard the pilot hammered on the throttle (don't really think anyone did, any pilot in a fighter going this fast was REALLY scared and likely wasn't thinking about going faster) the prop just could not develop any more thrust.
So the fighter had flown up against a wall of drag, and so had the prop.
The way around this, in theory, would be to design a scimitar shaped prop blade and sweep the wings back and design them for Mach + flight."
In summary, that prop is the biggest obstacle as the shock waves set in.
I read an artilce a couple years ago talking about 2 instances during WWII that prop planes broke the sound barrier. I'm sorry I can't remember the source, but they referred to he first time as "unofficial" where a P47 had supposedly done it diving away from a gaggle of Germans. The other was a Spitfire (model?/pilot?) that actually did it but broke up (pilot survived). Dunno if any of it was true.
Tumor
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i dont know about prop planes breaking the sound barrier but here is a good picture of a F/A-18C breaking the sound barrier. (http://www.rense.com/1.imagesC/boom.jpg)
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Alright you thread hijackers! Back in your holes!
Please send us the Ki-84, Ki-44, Ki.100, or J2M3 Japanese fighter in 1.09! Or the DY4 "Judy" dive bomber.
Aces High needs more Japanese aircraft.
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When you say 'more', you mean 'less', right?