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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Joc on September 02, 2003, 03:20:59 PM
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Will there be a WW2 arena apart from this TOD thing? as squads are not catered for in TOD,none of us will be flying there,but we also dont want to fly in a 3 sided war setup,my squad was really looking forward to a WW2 arena,and would like to know if there WILL be one for squads to take part in (NOT a CT type arena)
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Pyro has said that TOD doesn't necessarily mean the end of the Combat Theater, so I assume there will be an AH2 MA and CT in addition (and preceding) the TOD server.
Doesn't sound like that's what your wanting, but I've heard nothing about a AH2 WW2 arena....
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I dont want to fly CT at all because of the limited plane sets that come with each map/scenario rotation,what Id like to see is a WW2 arena,2 sides Axis/Allies with all their respective aircraft available with Euro/Pac maps in rotation,I think they have to think carefully about the arenas we are going to have,CT has never been a big hit,I dont think there should be this AH 'classic' arena,time to dump the old,go with the new,the arena 'second' to TOD should be a WW2 arena for squads.To me,squads have always been THE big attraction of online air combat,I gotta admit to being very angry to squads being left out of TOD,and feel we're being 'dumped' with a graphicly improved AH1 arena,at least gives the squads a WW2 arena of their own,DONT name it CT,name it WW2 Squad arena or something that might atually attract guys to fly in it.Just my opinion.:mad:
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The FAQ (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77265) is a good place to start. It may not provide the answers you want to hear. But it will provide answers.
Thank you.
Carry on.
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Originally posted by Arlo
Read the FAQ!!!!!!!!!!! (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77265)
Fourth question down if you want to skip to it due to attention deficiency problems.
You're welcome. Glad I could help.
Ohhhhh Canadaaaaaaaaa ........
He's looking for a two sided arena, axis vs allies. Which unlike the current maps makes sense.
He's not looking for the three sided arena in the MA now or in it's re-incarnation as AH2 Classic.
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Originally posted by NHawk
He's looking for a two sided arena, axis vs allies. Which unlike the current maps makes sense.
He's not looking for the three sided arena in the MA now or in it's re-incarnation as AH2 Classic.
Right ... he's not. AHII:TOD will be a two-sided Axis vs. Allied arena.
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Originally posted by Arlo
Right ... he's not. AHII:TOD will be a two-sided Axis vs. Allied arena.
Ah, but TOD will not support squads. Thus eliminating existing squads, some of which have been together for nearly 9 years.
His whole point is to make the MA 2 sided where squads can participate as a squad.
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Whats wrong with flying as a squad in a 3 country arena like we have now? Sure things get a bit lop-sided now and then, I know, I'm a bishop and those rooks and knights love to gang us !!!:D
But our squad has no trouble flying together and running good operations. Even on non-squad times we find ourselves getting together, and winging up, or getting missions together to capture territory.
If ya can't work with what ya got, what kind of squad are ya!
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AH2:Tour of Duty
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AH2:Classic ----> everything what we have now
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AH2:Mission Arena (ToD) -----> mission arena axis vs allies (rps)
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Originally posted by MaddogJoe
Whats wrong with flying as a squad in a 3 country arena like we have now? Sure things get a bit lop-sided now and then, I know, I'm a bishop and those rooks and knights love to gang us !!!:D
But our squad has no trouble flying together and running good operations. Even on non-squad times we find ourselves getting together, and winging up, or getting missions together to capture territory.
If ya can't work with what ya got, what kind of squad are ya!
My feelings/squad feelings are that its a bit stupid flying WW2 aircraft for a made up country over made up maps,in a stupid made up 3 sided war thats been done before in many other sims.
If I fly a Spitfire I want it to be for the Allies against the Axis forces,but since TOD has screwed this for squads,we need a seperate arena,set up for Axis/Allies thats squads CAN take part in,NOT run like the CT,although I salute the guys who make the maps etc for CT,all thats needed is a simple arena,2 sides,Axis/Allies,with their respective aircraft available,totally sick to death of the 3 sided war:mad:
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Joc, sounds to me like the CT is very close to what you want. If you can just get used to taking weeklong turns in settings you may not be particularly crazy about, it can be a real blast when your favorite setting rolls around.
I find the reduced radar/icon settings aren't as big an issue as one might think from the BB discussions; its easy to find a fight and you get used to the more restricted icon settings in time.
One problem with Axis/Allies settings usually is side-balancing, but the guys in the CT generally will switch sides to keep the balance reasonable. Its not perfect, but this group of guys makes more of an effort to keep the sides balanced than I've seen elsewhere.
As far as the restricted planeset, its up to you to decide whether that disadvantage outweighs all the other things the CT offers that you want. I don't think the plan for AH2 includes the exact kind of arena you're hoping for, but the CT isn't far off the mark, IMO.
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Hold on I thought TOD was a AXIS vs ALLIEs theatre!!???
are you saying its going to be a 3 sided war?? on made up maps?????
Please say it isnt sooo
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I really hope they dont remove CT...
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CT will bo not removed beucose:
CT have no career, TOD will have it
CT is change theatre every week, TOD is same theatre for weeks like in RL
CT "jump" over all war years, TOD wil be "small rps"
CT fun mostly base on furball/dogfight without consequences, in TOD you must fly with head all the time ;), and fullfill duty/missions
enough?;)
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Originally posted by hazed-
Hold on I thought TOD was a AXIS vs ALLIEs theatre!!???
are you saying its going to be a 3 sided war?? on made up maps?????
Please say it isnt sooo
It will be, but your squad won't be recognized in TOD. It will be in Classic.
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Im just getting frustrated because,here we are,very close to release(apparently) and we're all still very much in the dark about this kind of thing,and I just dont know where my squad is going to end up!!!! we hate the 3 sided made up country thing (Rook,Bish,Nit) we hate the limited plane set of CT,if you have a favorite aircraft your screwed cos it might not be in the current set up(worse,like me,you play UK times,no-one is in there) and TOD=no squads,so you can see why my temprature is rising!!! Im reluctant to go back to Warbirds,it has even less players than the CT!!!,pissed off,very pissed off.:(
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Here (http://www.david-lewis.com/sheepgame/game.php) you go joc, this will cheer you up
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For heaven's sake...
I now understand completely why the HTC folks stay away from posting here. People can't read, or misunderstand even the simplest information already available.
Good grief there are alot of stupid people walking around out there. How in the world do they get dressed and feed themselves?
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Quick someone throw joc a nice fluffy ewe for him to cuddle with before he boils over...JOC stay away from the light... WOOOOSSSSAAAAAAA
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LOl,no,I dont think even the fluffiest ewe could divert me from this:D Ive been prayin for a decent Axis/Allies arena since they screwed the one up back in Aw,oh and Fullback,DONT call me stupid or Ill insert a small animal in you,whoever you are.
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AvA in AW was just a gangbang, even if the whole planeset was permitted in AH the same thing would happen.
Squads will be in TOD, noone EVER said they won't be and do you really think HTC would not cater to squads in some form or another? (No squads in a sim like AH = business suicide)
SKurj
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I would think its going to be pretty much the way it is now. You can be in a different squad in each arena because "squads don't carry over" :D
Think I read that someplace
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Originally posted by Joc
LOl,no,I dont think even the fluffiest ewe could divert me from this:D Ive been prayin for a decent Axis/Allies arena since they screwed the one up back in Aw,oh and Fullback,DONT call me stupid or Ill insert a small animal in you,whoever you are.
think about that for a few seconds
and anyway who said squads wont be supported...sure "squads dont carry over" but they wont be removed...read the documentation before making a idiot post like that
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How do you see squad or unit structure shaping out in AHII? For example, currently there is a 32 person limit for squad members in one arena. Is there a plan on changing that? [/color]
There will be a lot of things that are either different or won’t carry over from Classic to ToD. For example, killshooter (reflective damage for friendly fire) will remain in Classic but won’t be in ToD. Instead, there will be a court martial system.
Will squads have to fly on the same side during the conflict, or can one squaddie fly for the Germans while his buddy flies for the Americans?[/color]
The Squad format of the main arena won’t be a part of ToD.
http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_059a.html
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ShruG
Even if the squad format of the MA isn't part of TOD, though ... I don't see what's to stop squadron mates in the MA from flying together in TOD, given they coordinate their "character creation" so they can be in the same branch/unit. I bet some virtual squads can not only manage to do so but will prefer to, since many of them base themselves on a real life historical counterpart, anyhow.
Guess we'll find out ... when war (TOD) is eventually declared.
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Originally posted by vorticon
read the documentation before making a idiot post like that
Yep, read the docs before making idiot posts. :rolleyes:
Will squads have to fly on the same side during the conflict, or can one squaddie fly for the Germans while his buddy flies for the Americans?
The Squad format of the main arena won’t be a part of ToD.
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Originally posted by NHawk
Ah, but TOD will not support squads. Thus eliminating existing squads, some of which have been together for nearly 9 years.
His whole point is to make the MA 2 sided where squads can participate as a squad.
You are right that it will not "support" a squadron per se but who is to stop a squadron from going there and flying a mission together?
I have to believe that the game will allow the various members of a squadron to fly together if they want to. At the very least it wouldn't be any different than joining a mission now. If you miss the start time then so be it you missed out. The only difference in what is coming and what we have is you can't really up as a loner and catch up with your squadron. I think it would bring a few squadrons closer to having a real squadron night. I hope that is what happens with ours; since we now have a squad night nearly every night of the week.
Change is good guys; be flexible and have fun with the game. Don't be a tight wound wuss and cry about some guy you don't see more than once every two months who happens to have the same tag as you or is listed on the inactive section of your roster.