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Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: DiabloTX on September 02, 2003, 05:18:49 PM
I can't make up my mind about which chopper I liked better.  Larry's old school homage to Ed "Big Daddy" Roth was a dream from my childhood but Yaffe's chopper was modern cool to the nth degree.  I don't know which one I would have voted for.  Anyone else want to chime in on this one?
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: capt. apathy on September 02, 2003, 05:30:02 PM
it was a sweet clasic chopper but to be honest Larry is perminantly stuck in 1968.

IMO Yaffe blew him away
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: NUKE on September 02, 2003, 05:43:59 PM
I liked Pauls a lot more.
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: SOB on September 02, 2003, 05:56:06 PM
I think it's retarded that they would even be entered in the same competition.  They're completely different bikes.  That said, definitely Paul Yaffe's, but he shoulda stuck with silver...it looked better before he painted it.


SOB
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: genputty on September 02, 2003, 05:58:46 PM
silver was much better i thought.... and that bike look sweet
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: ra on September 02, 2003, 06:33:32 PM
Yaffe's was awesome.  Indian Larry's was just a nice example of S.O.S.
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: NUKE on September 02, 2003, 06:34:37 PM
If they judged that on the west coast, Larry would'nt have had a chance in hell to win with his bike.
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: DiabloTX on September 02, 2003, 06:38:20 PM
True, Larry's is much more East coast but the fact that he hand made almost all of the bike makes me want to respect it all that much more.  Both bikes were sweet, there's nothing wrong with still making them like old school.  Still, Yaffe's was sweet.  I liked the red with the silver undercoat.
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: SunKing on September 02, 2003, 06:48:27 PM
The red chopper from the previous show with the devil tail shifter was the best.  Endless money and a big shop dont allows mean talent.
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: NUKE on September 02, 2003, 06:52:17 PM
I liked Borgette's Blue chopper with the chrome nitrous bottles on the sides of the tank.

That show is pretty awesome though.

Arizona has some fine bike makers IMO
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: capt. apathy on September 02, 2003, 07:06:57 PM
SOB hit it dead on.  not even in the same class of bike.

I didn't much care for the Borgette bike,  it was all right, nice bike and all but they just had racks and racks of parts went along and said "this motor, this tank, this fender"  that's production line assembly not chopping.  with the exception of the paint I bet you could have any one of their assemblers build the exact same bike with nothing more than a list of part #'s

I can't remember the name but IMO the guy from up north (Mass. I think, andretti red bike, long and low, nice flame job), should have won out Billy Lane. it was a sweet ride and should have won out over a bike that lights your bellybutton on fire (you'd think he'd have seen that coming, my first thought when he mentioned the exaust through the fender was "that's gonna be hot").  although it is amazing what Billy can do with little more than a stick and a rock.
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: NUKE on September 02, 2003, 07:27:03 PM
not really, Borgette's frame is hollow aluminum with in which the oil flows through it..... not to mention the welding needed for it....hardley "off the shelf".

Billy's most impressive thing was that rear wheel without a hub, spokes or ANYTHING.....just an open hole...pretty amazing.
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: DiabloTX on September 02, 2003, 07:31:45 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
I think it's retarded that they would even be entered in the same competition.  They're completely different bikes.  That said, definitely Paul Yaffe's, but he shoulda stuck with silver...it looked better before he painted it.


SOB


SOB, you have any idea how much $$$$ Discovery Channel paid them to build those bikes?  That's the reason why they had them in the same competition.  Had they not completed the bikes by the imposed deadline they would have pocketed nothing.

Anyone who dismisses a bike due to it's "school" of style is missing out on the whole point of this.  Its a celebration of the chopper, both old and new.  All of the builders, Jesse James, the Teutels, Billy, Larry, Yaffe, all of them have a very nice, very desirable product.
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: capt. apathy on September 02, 2003, 07:38:12 PM
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not really, Borgette's frame is hollow aluminum with in which the oil flows through it..... not to mention the welding needed for it....hardley "off the shelf".


actually they said the 'oil tank frame' is borgettes trademark, on all their bikes.  it is very cool though and a great idea.  they make all their parts and all, and like I said before it's a cool bike.  but I didn't see anything 'special' that would make it stand out from the other 700 bikes per year they crank out.
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: SOB on September 02, 2003, 08:11:11 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
SOB, you have any idea how much $$$$ Discovery Channel paid them to build those bikes?  That's the reason why they had them in the same competition.  Had they not completed the bikes by the imposed deadline they would have pocketed nothing.

Anyone who dismisses a bike due to it's "school" of style is missing out on the whole point of this.  Its a celebration of the chopper, both old and new.  All of the builders, Jesse James, the Teutels, Billy, Larry, Yaffe, all of them have a very nice, very desirable product.


I'm sure Discovery gave them each a nice sum of cash, and I think both of them did a great job.  My point was that those bikes were so completely different that they didn't merit a competition between the two.  I wasn't dismissing either bike.


SOB
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: DiabloTX on September 02, 2003, 08:42:46 PM
SOB, the dismissal remark wasn't directed at you soley, just those that don't like a bike only because it's "old school".
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: DiabloTX on September 02, 2003, 08:44:24 PM
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
actually they said the 'oil tank frame' is borgettes trademark, on all their bikes.  it is very cool though and a great idea.  they make all their parts and all, and like I said before it's a cool bike.  but I didn't see anything 'special' that would make it stand out from the other 700 bikes per year they crank out.


NHRA Pro Stocker's have been doing this for years, running oil through the tube frame.  Tain't nuthin' new.  But it is a cool idea.
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: lord dolf vader on September 02, 2003, 09:01:52 PM
around here your a yuppy if you have a working air filter on a bike.

look forward to great times when they become uncool again.
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: Dago on September 02, 2003, 09:05:51 PM
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around here your a yuppy if you have a working air filter on a bike


Or no old couch sitting on the front porch.   :)


dago
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: hblair on September 02, 2003, 09:17:08 PM
Yeah that was a pretty cool show. But I'm lookin forward to the street rod series myself :). In boyd coddingtons shop. I caught one episode the other night but haven't seen it advertised again. Anybody know when that show is supposed to be coming on? Boyds been on the cutting edge of the rods for years.
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: DiabloTX on September 03, 2003, 08:42:42 AM
I was a little disappointed that Boyd used a fiber-glass body but understand why he did.  That finished car was really nice.  I was waiting for him to paint "U.S.Navy" and "Blue Angels" on the side but he never did.  :D
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: hblair on September 03, 2003, 12:09:12 PM
Fiberglass has come a long way in recent years. And it's not gonna rust either, or welds show through, etc. etc. ;) But you're right, steel is the preferred route if you've got the money and time.
Title: Indian Larry vs. Paul Yaffe, which one?
Post by: DiabloTX on September 03, 2003, 12:37:25 PM
My father in law is an old school hot rodder and worships Boyd.  He's going to be real disappointed to see Boyd doing a fiber-glass job on the show.  He has had a few '32 roadsters and is quite the mechanical artist himself, I have never seen welder's beads like his.