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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: ramzey on September 02, 2003, 06:31:31 PM
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idea take from here
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=959716#post959716
but, what if HTC can give fly all peoples who ended trial on transport planes and gv's ONLY (c47, m3)
I think this can give peoples better learn game and for paying customers;) more targets. I know for fighters thats can be not interesting, but som peoples like to fly transport planes and help others. Noone of online sims have something like that.
And this should keep more players close to AH
Pyro?
ramzey
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Who's going to pay for the additional bandwidth?
Other wise it would be great. Imagine no more auto-ack at fields, all of them are human gunned. Would make ack behave a lot more real und more unpredicatable.
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Originally posted by ramzey
idea take from here
[url]but, what if HTC can give fly all peoples who ended trial on transport planes and gv's ONLY (c47, m3)
Actually band width allowing........... the C47, M3 option is IMO a very good idea.......
I would not allow access to field guns as they are presently set up.
They will still have an account number etc to log on and play........ this could be facilitated even when accounts are allowed to lapse
Ability to "Join" and gun may need to be considered.
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I will not allow gun 5' guns for anyone who not pay;) its my worse nightmare, just after ostwinds:D
Gunner option for bombers and option join to watch will be nice.
But bandwidth is a problem. However not so big?
And if we have transport rides for free, AH can be called "free" game:)
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only problem is again whats to stop the gunner guy joining you and shooting down your mates :) hehe
I like the idea of free c47s tho. M3's have a gun so again they could do damage with no killshooter on.Things llike sitting on friendly base shooting planes as they spawn.If they are nothing to do with the AH community and a wandering gameplayer whats to stop them ? they wont care about 'consequenses'.
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on MA killshooter will be always on, so M3 gun is not problem:)
for joining as gunner, we need much smaller pop up, and not on the middle of screen;)
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Originally posted by hazed-
only problem is again whats to stop the gunner guy joining you and shooting down your mates :) hehe
I like the idea of free c47s tho. M3's have a gun so again they could do damage with no killshooter on.Things llike sitting on friendly base shooting planes as they spawn.If they are nothing to do with the AH community and a wandering gameplayer whats to stop them ? they wont care about 'consequenses'.
The right to vulch spawnpoints should be reserved for paying customers :D
IIRC for gunners there is no killshooter, bullets just don't do any damage.
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I think its great. I think the wimpy little guns on the m3 and the ltv transport should be okay. if a problem arrises they can toss it out.
Very creative thinking there ramzey
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if you let freebee's into the main to man guns ect... it will turn into the violent nightmare of the swearing name changing dweebs that are there just to cause mayhem and stalk others .
I saw this in Fighter ace 2 its last 6 months when all the arena's were Free... we needed a perma squelch
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Hmm... WHY?
If after 2 weeks they don't want to pay for AH.. why givem the free ride?
SKurj
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As I understand it now.........you get a free trial for 2 weeks............ then your account lapses but you retain your account code and such for when you want to reactivate it.
You do not get another free 2 weeks (unless you go to the trouble of hunting down and deleting stuff).
Hence lapsed accounts (under Ramzey's suggestion) would get the C47 & maybe the M3 access.............. ( I dont think gguns and joined gunner roles would be appropriate)
Indeed if a VET fell on hard times and could not afford his account then he too could take up lapsed account rides...........
These are accounts and HTC can do all the things (ban, eject, cancel etc) that they can do with a normal account............
If we were to be afraid of account switching trouble makers then they would have no more access than they do now........... and be subject to the same diciplines we enjoy........
Frankly I would be surprised if folk did not quickly open up full accounts ...................
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I have freinds and relatives who would love to fly with me or on their own now and then. But cannot justify making an account for the month's worth of time they would fly during the year.
Give them something to fly in, to get a taste what it's like to fly with a squad and learn the comm system and such. -- they might later be convinced to upgrade thier account. I for one, would love to see the influx of transport pilots.
I don't know how many times I have orbited a base keeping a cap and then have to rtb or run out of gas just waiting for the damn goon to arrive.
BRING IT ON! -- Then I can get my Wife to come and play every now and then. ;)
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Ok, how about players running multiple accounts? +)
I could have one bish, 1 rook and 1 knit with this sorta setup +)
SKurj
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and curreent you cannot do it?;) its depends from people
If somone like to cheat this way, he allways can find way.
But for peoples who not like to cheat, and like to have instant contact with AH thats can be good.
They not must create another account to see whats going on arena. And can prevent form creating multiple accounts.
More if you stop pay for AH , you not loose your nickname
ramzey
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lets see on my second pc ... i get the freeloaders access ... i get to man guns . c 47s... hmmmm i get to set my self up to pad my own stats... wooo hooo im now ranked #1 in the arena ....
oh and theres the .join option .... hmmm now i get to watch myself fly on my other pc .... i'm now almost invincable ... If any of you have tried this you know what i mean ...
oh with my freeloaders account i can easily spy on the other country's chat ,missions plans ect .... duh my name is Candi and im a spy ..... hell the bish's dont have to even pay for their spy/stat stacker.
Really stupid idea you guys have going here .... sorry to burst your bubble but .... well it opens up a world of even more cheating then there is now.
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Originally posted by Roscoroo(work)
lets see on my second pc ... i get the freeloaders access ... i get to man guns . c 47s... hmmmm i get to set my self up to pad my own stats... wooo hooo im now ranked #1 in the arena ....
oh and theres the .join option .... hmmm now i get to watch myself fly on my other pc .... i'm now almost invincable ... If any of you have tried this you know what i mean ...
oh with my freeloaders account i can easily spy on the other country's chat ,missions plans ect .... duh my name is Candi and im a spy ..... hell the bish's dont have to even pay for their spy/stat stacker.
Really stupid idea you guys have going here .... sorry to burst your bubble but .... well it opens up a world of even more cheating then there is now.
noone say they can man gun
you have 2 PCs one next to secound, wow i not have it. 80-90% peoples not hve it too as i think
Get score killing yourself? lame way, thats not increse skills and not build your name. Who care about lamers score
Spying? lol what for? somone care about that?
you write like you allready try all this dirty things, did you?
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Sure we can do the multiple accounts now, but they cost money, which is a huge deterrent. Remove that though....
Think about it!!!
SKurj
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I tried the .join once last year ... not in the main though just to see what it was like .... and discovered something about the game ... the mrs roo was playing in the game at the time .... thats how i discovered it ... hell I had 3 pc's lined up next to each other once. And theres 4 at work lined up if i really want to do that ...
Ive never tried to stack my score because i dont really care about that myself ... i look at it to check out my gunnery and thats about it...
its better to leave the freeloaders in there own arena ... not the main . letting the newbies come in to the big taste of it is great ...
but as SKurj just said ...
"Sure we can do the multiple accounts now, but they cost money, which is a huge deterrent. Remove that though....
Think about it!!! "
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if you have couple pc's its not problem to use fresh account every 2 weeks;) its no diference ghost disc is enough or know what file/record you should delete from your pc
and i bet, you have no idea how to deal with somone who do it;)
buecose if HTC block IP for every user who allready have his 2 weeks away, will have less customers. Som peoples have not same ip all the time
I use 2 or 3 trials before i start pay.
Separated arena for trial or for those peoples who have expired trial will not work, you have h2h now and if HTC do it , i can say welcom in WB world;)
trial have 2 weeks, mostly noone of noobs is able to see many good things in AH. Like scenarions, Sops, snapshots, even not see many big missions
is not better to allow them fly transport planes and belive thay use this for good reason, then see evil all around?
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Ramzey I was willing to pay after my first week! let alone two...
I did do 2 trials as I was unemployed at the time, but thats where it ended. 3 months later I was employed, I mailed my first money order. Been paying ever since...
(that was almost exactly 3 yrs ago)
The guy that has paid for ah and enjoyed it ISN'T going to want to all of a sudden fly goons because he can't afford the game. He'll fly H2H or no AH at all.
The noobs who got to fire guns for 2 weeks... as soon as they are limited to goons will say "This sucks!" Of course 95% of the noobs who play for 2 weeks don't subscribe, and never planned to. There are a few who play for 2 weeks and really want to subscribe but cannot, are they gonna be satisfied dying in goons all the time? I think not, and in the end the frustration of doing so may turn em off the game altogether.
SKurj
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ive done 3 trials in 3 years .... each time on a new pc... along with subscribing to the main .... I brought 20 plus players overhere from FA2 when it died (my squadron had 70 players in it)... there is still some of them subed to the main ... Ive shown the game to customers that hang out at my work .... ( i work in a race car chassis /welding shop / and a machine shop near the Boeing aircraft plant)Hell while machining parts i can play AH all day if i want at work.
Ive got 10 friends playing il2 fb that are asking me daily if AH2 is out yet ....
If a newbie shows enough interest in the game i'll give them my time and instruction ... so I do believe ive given enough of my self to pay for the 3 trials 100 times by now ... if i want to play with the workings of the game / to learn more about it / ask questions/ make comments / tell my opinion / I know ive earned a right to by now .
Ive seen what happens with freebies in a online sim befor and it wasnt pritty or fair to the company that runs/maintains/or keeps us happy and enjoying the game.
now a fresh trial for everyone would be nice in AH2 ...
I do Like ya Ramsey ... its just this idea of freeloaders in the main isnt really a good idea .. even if they are just limited to gv's and guns. (they need to play alittle to really appreciate a great game)
Ok whine mode off..... Sorry guys ....had to pull a HiTech.... darn the stress ... (wonder if i can get a pizza bribe too ???)
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I still think its a good idea..........
The multi account / cheating / spying stuff is MA type paranoia IMO.
If the only thing a freebie can do is drop drunks, supply fields and vehicles and fire his little M3 turret guns.............. seems OK to me.
If it was limited only to C47's its still a good idea.........
Sure its possible he/they could spy.............
Its possible they could pump up another account by killing loads of C47's from the freebie account. It would look sort of obvious on the stats.........
Many of us have multiple accounts in the same household ........ "cheating" just is not worth the trouble it requirs
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oh well ... it wont happen anyway.... you guys can beg for the free spy accounts all ya want .....next thing you know you'll want them to run the cv's too.....(theres to many multible pc house holds these days) paranoid i think not ...its just a fact and i dont want to see this game ruined like FA was.
im done with this discussion.
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wow...this has to be the first time this sorta thing has been brought up by a paying customer (who i remember shooting down a lot of those n00b hth loosers ideas similar to this)
wont happen dont want it stop wasting valuable bandwith and storage space...bu bye
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ohhhhhh, its just idea, did not BB is used to discuss things like that? :P
and not all ideas are good or good enough
I not cheat , so i not think in this categories like spying or something else.
Anyway its something diferent then 32 players h2h idea or many else, whichone try to enforce on my style of playing.
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well it is sort of a good idea ... but it would have to be moderated constantly .... thats the biggest problem with it ... (now you have to get guys that are trustful and skilled in human relations/gameplay to moderate 24 hours aday)
or as i said it will turn sour by the dweebs that exploit its cheating/spying ect... advantages ...
thats what ive been trying to present here ....
And yes this is a BBS just to discuss ... argue this kinda stuff ...
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Restrict free players from the Map room, and therefore cannot report on Mission status.
Spies existed in the real world. Call it "realism". -- Deal with it.
As for free accounts, bring it on. :)