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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: GRUNHERZ on September 03, 2003, 09:59:00 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/09/03/depp.us.reax.reut/index.html
:rolleyes:
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file that right next to the opinion of the guy on the corner holding "I'll work for food" sign
stupid ppl are everywhere - hollywood just has a bunch of them - coke eaten brain cells help I'm sure ...
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That article is like so 15 minutes ago. :rolleyes:
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I'm all in favor of Americans bashing the US government. But implying that other governments are superior is a sign of brain damage. I hope he stays over there.
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Originally posted by Raubvogel
That article is like so 15 minutes ago. :rolleyes:
Grun, your such a "DEPP"........;)
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"I was ecstatic they re-named 'French Fries' as 'Freedom Fries'. Grown men and women in positions of power in the U.S. government showing themselves as idiots," he told Stern.
He got that part right at least.
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Originally posted by ra
I'm all in favor of Americans bashing the US government. But implying that other governments are superior is a sign of brain damage.
I missed it. Where did he declare that some other government was superior?
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
I missed it. Where did he declare that some other government was superior?
Look up 'imply' in the dictionary.
"My daughter is four, my boy is one. I'd like them to see America as a toy, a broken toy. Investigate it a little, check it out, get this feeling and then get out,"
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I hardly see how criticizing the US government implies that some other government is superior.
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Typical whine before you read and understand BS....... If you don't see what Depp is talking about, I pity you....
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Originally posted by Manedew
Typical whine before you read and understand BS....... If you don't see what Depp is talking about, I pity you....
If you're post is politically-motivated, then I pity you.
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"Depp" in German, I will translate in my colorful way of course,
means:
Fool, Idiot, Knucklehead, Buttmonk, Villiage Idiot, Moron
and anything you please.
Think it is pretty funny that he says all this to a German Mag, "Depp shows he is a Depp".
Always thought he was a "depp" anyways.
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If you're post is politically-motivated, then I pity you.
If that is how you think you should spell 'your', then I pity you.
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Pompous Hollywood liberals criticising the government?? Any day now dogs and cats will be sleeping together. :rolleyes:
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A shame... I really liked his acting too.
I suppose its foolish to hope that sooner or later most Hollywood types will figure out that they dont understand anything about politics.
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Yeah, it's the flight sim geeks that understand politics!!
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/09/03/depp.us.reax.reut/index.html
:rolleyes:
Yes, i guess he didn't get his memo about "involuntary love for our government" and "revoking of rights to free speech"....
Funny how most of you were making living in this country and *****ed about government when Clinton was in charge....
oh, i forgot, it was ok to desent then.... :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
A shame... I really liked his acting too.
I suppose its foolish to hope that sooner or later most Hollywood types will figure out that they dont understand anything about politics.
...and what do YOU understand about politics?
Quite obviously not the part about 'democracy' and 'freedom' of it :D
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Originally posted by fd ski
Yes, i guess he didn't get his memo about "involuntary love for our government" and "revoking of rights to free speech"....
Funny how most of you were making living in this country and *****ed about government when Clinton was in charge....
oh, i forgot, it was ok to desent then.... :rolleyes:
Nobody is restricting his free speech. Now, expecting us not to criticize him for his stupid remarks, THAT would be a restriction of free speech. :)
It's fine to dissent. And it's fine to criticize him when he says something that is stupid or that we disagree with.
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he can say whatever the **** he wants. Your just jealous that he actually gets his opinions published.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
A shame... I really liked his acting too.
I suppose its foolish to hope that sooner or later most Hollywood types will figure out that they dont understand anything about politics.
I was looking forward to the remake of Willy Wonka, may pass on it now.
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I'm sorry is this guy someone important:D
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Originally posted by rc51
I'm sorry is this guy someone important:D
Never knew who he was until this story was posted. I guess thats effective promotion.:rolleyes: Negative promotion. I prolly won't go see nor rent the film (and thankfully my sons could give a rats donut about it as well)
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Originally posted by Fishu
...and what do YOU understand about politics?
Quite obviously not the part about 'democracy' and 'freedom' of it :D
Quite a bit, actually - I majored in political science at university.
I wont even ask you the same question based on your use of 'Democracy' and 'Freedom' as constants that somehow justify an argument, nevermind the fact that in the context youre using them, they are hypocritical.
The 'freedom' to speak your mind applies just before the responsibilty to accept judgement for your words.
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He is entitled to his opinion. He has the right to freedom of speech. He can live say and do where ever and what ever he likes. Fortunatly I have that same freedom to spend my money where ever and when ever I like. I for one will never go see another one of his movies.
Freedom in action you gotta love it.
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You missed the point funk.
Depp is entitled to his opinion and so is grun, however:
Funny he has no qualms making his living in America..
clearly implies that our fruitty-right-wing-nut that Depp should have qualms about it, aka - not make his living here because of this opinion. That's unamerican. You can love the country without loving the government. A statement that grun would argue to death if we were to speak of Luftwaffel pilots :D
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Originally posted by fd ski
You missed the point funk.
Depp is entitled to his opinion and so is grun, however:
clearly implies that our fruitty-right-wing-nut that Depp should have qualms about it, aka - not make his living here because of this opinion. That's unamerican. You can love the country without loving the government. A statement that grun would argue to death if we were to speak of Luftwaffel pilots :D
Hey, it's not his fault to receive money, it's the ones who buys :D
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Fd I think Grunherz was pointing out the irony that this person who blasts the USA is also entirely dependent on its economic system for his income and wealth. In fact I think he got his big break on Fox. His political principles are important enough to him that he will whine about the US in foreign media, but those principles are not important enough to him to stop suckling the Hollyweird teat. He's a sellout.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
A shame... I really liked his acting too.
I'm not sure what his personal opinon(s) have to do with his ability to act. No question, Depp is an odd bird, but most actors are.
I generally disagree with everything that comes out of Charleton Heston's mouth, but this doesn't stop me from enjoying his movies.
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So let me see Funked, what you are saying is that as long as he makes his living from America he is not entitled to criticise it's goverment. (Incidentally the quote on CNN is out of context. In the full article he is clearly criticising the current administration.)
I've heard of countries like that, let's see North Korea, Iran, Libya, Cuba, the former Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and now Funked's and Grunherz's America. Maybe Depp has a point?
Grunherz as ever is hypersensitive to criticism of America, which is ironic considering where he came from and why he lives in America now. So Gruny what do you suggest for his punishment? Imprisonment, exile (too late, he lives in France), execution?
You know I wish you right wingers would all learn to think, that is THINK for yourselves. Open your eyes for goodness sake.
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I heard Anne Coulter hated Bill Clinton and all his works....
Maybe she should stop getting paid by American companies too.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I heard Anne Coulter hated Bill Clinton and all his works....
Maybe she should stop getting paid by American companies too.
You meant Chinese companies, right?
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things are waayyyyy too calm - how about the Guardian to get everyone riled up again!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/0,7371,337484,00.html
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Originally posted by blue1
So let me see Funked, what you are saying is that as long as he makes his living from America he is not entitled to criticise it's goverment.
I never said that. RTFP.
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He is entitled to his opinion. He has the right to freedom of speech. He can live say and do where ever and what ever he likes. Fortunatly I have that same freedom to spend my money where ever and when ever I like. I for one will never go see another one of his movies.
Freedom in action you gotta love it.
Funny you mention that. I've got a good friend that is pretty conservative that decided to do the same thing when he heard this about Depp. But then he kept hearing how good Pirates of the Carribean was and wanted to see it. His solution? Pay for another movie and sneak into Depp's movie, so he wouldn't be giving money to that American hating bastard.
You've got to love people with principles!
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Originally posted by Lance
Funny you mention that. I've got a good friend that is pretty conservative that decided to do the same thing when he heard this about Depp. But then he kept hearing how good Pirates of the Carribean was and wanted to see it. His solution? Pay for another movie and sneak into Depp's movie, so he wouldn't be giving money to that American hating bastard.
You've got to love people with principles!
Unless Depp got a share of the proceeds, I'm pretty sure he's already been paid.
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I ONLY GO TO SEE MOVIES BY AHHHHHHHHHHHHHNOHLD NOW.
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Shh, my buddy might hear that, Sandman, and he'd probably cry if he learned that his willful violation of theater rules wasn't morally justified.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Unless Depp got a share of the proceeds, I'm pretty sure he's already been paid.
I'm sure you realize that box office sales on his last movie dictate his take on the next?
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
I'm not sure what his personal opinon(s) have to do with his ability to act. No question, Depp is an odd bird, but most actors are.
I generally disagree with everything that comes out of Charleton Heston's mouth, but this doesn't stop me from enjoying his movies.
Unfortunately, I take the viewpoints of others pretty seriously (afterall, a person is defined by ideology, actions, and words, right?).
I didnt say I wouldnt watch his movies, but his interview will leave a sour taste in my mouth when I do see them.
Also - Blue - I imagine that Grun's loyalty to the United States comes as a direct result of his living experience elsewhere. I think you'd be follish to ignore his posts as 'hyper-sensitive.' If anything, they should carry more weight in discussions such as these due to the fact that he has experiences youve never had the (dis)pleasure of adding to your portfolio.
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Originally posted by AKIron
I'm sure you realize that box office sales on his last movie dictate his take on the next?
Regardless, at least he took the measure to protect his own interests, giving the interview a month after the release of his big movie.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Regardless, at least he took the measure to protect his own interests, giving the interview a month after the release of his big movie.
I caught Depp on Bravo "Inside the Actors Studio" the other day. He could not care less about a movie after he's done working on it.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
I caught Depp on Bravo "Inside the Actors Studio" the other day. He could not care less about a movie after he's done working on it.
One of the benefits of being successful and having more money than you can ever hope to spend.
Since he loves France and despises the US so much maybe he should start making only French movies? Or maybe he is a hypocrite?
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Do you honestly believe that a good American cannot be vehimently opposed to his Government's actions? Com'on Iron!
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No MT, I don't believe that. However, his comments weren't specifically directed at the American government but rather at America. You may infer that he meant only the government if you want but I think he meant what he said.
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Hollywood star Johnny Depp said on Wednesday the United States was a stupid, aggressive puppy and he would not live there until the political climate changed.
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This implies that he is thinking well beyond the current administration.
"My daughter is four, my boy is one. I'd like them to see America as a toy, a broken toy. Investigate it a little, check it out, get this feeling and then get out,"
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Let's don't start this old pissin contest again guys....some here admire Johnny, others don't...it's that simple.
The real question is did that Alec guy ever move to France?
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Good point. We should be happy that lefty actors, puppeteers, and other losers are leaving the US.
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I get the feeling Depp is talking more about not wanting his kids in Hollywood and/or NYC and exposed to the 'ET photographers' all the time as opposed to living in 'America' (as in 'everywhere is bad' in America).
And I can respect that he says what he thinks, and does movies because he likes them, etc. I don't mind the guy. Numerous times in interviews he's admitted that he was dumb to do something, immature when it came to this or that - that's more honesty than 95% of the politicians (either party) or actors in the U.S. have ever shown.
"No qualms making his living in America" isn't a fair statement. Plenty of foreigners make lots of money working for Hollywood while living somewhere else. At least Depp had the guts to say he doesn't want to live there.
And the 'Freedom Fries' and 'Freedom Toast' deal was lame. Not because the French government didn't act like a bunch of, well - we won't get into that right now. But all the 'patriotic' politicians that made such a big issue out of it are the same guys that would vote down something on the defense budget in order to get their state a bunch of jobs making stuff that the DoD has no need for - i.e. "**** the common good I wanna get reelected."
I draw the line with actors when they go 'Jane Fonda'. Depp doesn't want to live in the U.S. full time - he's making sacrifices by doing so. I hope it never comes to somthing like this but the point where he might change his tune is when one of his kids is in bad shape and if he lived almost anywhere in the U.S. the kid could be in the care of the top 4 or 5 Doctors in the world for any given problem in under 3 hours. A lot of the things that make living in the U.S.A. great don't come up on a daily basis.
I also don't think Depp is talking specifically about George Bush. I think he's saying what he actually said - the 'political climate'. That's more than just the President. People from both sides contribute to the 'political climate'.
And I like his movies. So he does a good job at his job. Boycott his movies? You'd better get political statements from every pro athelete in the U.S. to determine which teams you root for and watch. Or do you only 'punish' someone when they speak their mind?
Mike/wulfie
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His problem is obviously with both US politics and US culture, in fact he hates america so much that he does not want to live here and does not want his children to live here either in the long term. Since he brings up his wish for his kids to experience america, form an identical opinion to his (interseting "progressive" parenting style isnt it) and then leave we must assume he is looking in the long term - unless he means they form such an opinion from between ages 2-9 we must assume that he is thinking beyond the Bush presidency as well, meaning his kids come to the USA as older teens and make their own decision with some life experience. This means his real problem is with America and not just Bush policies since they can be gone as soon as next year if he looses or ion five years at the latest - eitherway his oldestt will only be 9 years old then anyway.
So yes his problem is with America in general and not just with Bush - that much is clear
Then i just find it funny that since he hates America so much with such passion as to leave it and insist his kids hate it too that he still finds it morally OK to earn his living in the USA. Its like some refugee from the nazis, you lefties will love the comparsion no?, still making his living in Germany as a rich entertainer while publicly criticizing the culture and govt.
If he was a true disssident why not swear to not make US moves with US studios? Why contribute to millions in corporate tax revenues to the evil US government by making such spectacularly succesful and entertaing films as Pirates Of Carribean?
The guy is full of **** and a hypocrite...
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I think Depp is talking about the current political atmosphere in the US.
Though if he went to an island and started a new country, I bet all the babes would go there.
:D
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But why then say that he wants his basicallyt infant children to avoid the USA in the future? The current political climate (read Bush) will be over in 5 years max. So unless he thinks his then at best 9 year old kid is to make informed political/social decisions his hatred of the USA must be inclusive of wider American cultural factors, not just the current administration's politics..
At least he's less of a hypocrite, and a far far more talented performer, than that patheic waste of humanity Baldwing who to the best of my knowledge still resides in the USA and not france as he promised upon Bush's presidential victory....
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I've never heard him say he hates America. I've never seen him quoted in text saying he hates America. I don't hate downtown New York or downtown Chicago. I also would never want to live there.
If I had kids I wouldn't want them growing up in Hollywood - especially if I was an actor. I believe it is totally possible to love living in a place when you are 20 or 30 and to never ever want to raise kids in the same place.
At least he's got the guts to say exactly how he feels and why when it isn't popular. And at least he only speaks for himself, unlike *****es like Streisand. And I don't recall him protesting the future military action against Iraq, or grandstanding like Baldwin or Robbins or any of the others. Someone asked him why he chose to live with his family in France and he answered.
Mike/wulfie
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Originally posted by type_char
I think Depp is talking about the current political atmosphere in the US.
Though if he went to an island and started a new country, I bet all the babes would go there.
:D
If that happened I'd really put some effort into obtaining dual citizenship. :) Imagine that...Depplandia...populatio n 85% female, and me an Admiral of the Depplandian Navy. :)
Yes, sometimes, it's good to have a dream. :)
Mike/wulfie
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Funny.. Grunherz thinks he can recognize a hypocrit :D
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Hi Fishu!
I'm in a very bad mood at this moment. I will only smile at you. :)
GRUNHERZ
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Originally posted by Fishu
Funny.. Grunherz thinks he can recognize a hypocrit :D
Funny... just... funny. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
His problem is obviously with both US politics and US culture, in fact he hates america so much that he does not want to live here and does not want his children to live here either in the long term. Since he brings up his wish for his kids to experience america, form an identical opinion to his (interseting "progressive" parenting style isnt it) and then leave we must assume he is looking in the long term - unless he means they form such an opinion from between ages 2-9 we must assume that he is thinking beyond the Bush presidency as well, meaning his kids come to the USA as older teens and make their own decision with some life experience. This means his real problem is with America and not just Bush policies since they can be gone as soon as next year if he looses or ion five years at the latest - eitherway his oldestt will only be 9 years old then anyway.
So yes his problem is with America in general and not just with Bush - that much is clear
Then i just find it funny that since he hates America so much with such passion as to leave it and insist his kids hate it too that he still finds it morally OK to earn his living in the USA. Its like some refugee from the nazis, you lefties will love the comparsion no?, still making his living in Germany as a rich entertainer while publicly criticizing the culture and govt.
If he was a true disssident why not swear to not make US moves with US studios? Why contribute to millions in corporate tax revenues to the evil US government by making such spectacularly succesful and entertaing films as Pirates Of Carribean?
The guy is full of **** and a hypocrite...
I bet he doesn't vote either.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
I bet he doesn't vote either.
I hope not, nobody should vote in this nasty political climate of personality destruction, mean spiritedness and multimillion dollar lying attacking add campaigns by all sides... And yes I also include in this the Clinton persecution, perhaps especially so... It all turned me off of getting deeply involved or invested in politics, just as I became old enough to vote....
So yea I'm always ready to discuss voting and my reasons for not yet choosiong to do so..
But I'm not sure what this has to do with Mr Depp and his bizzare stances vis a vis the USA and the leisurly multi million dollar lifestyle the very same USA provides him right now...
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You should rename "Depp" to "Freedom"!
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Originally posted by Duedel
You should rename "Depp" to "Freedom"!
I'll write to my congressman immediately.... :)
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Originally posted by Duedel
You should rename "Depp" to "Freedom"!
Ok, that was funny. ;)
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na,
Depp will still be a "Depp" to me.
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Grunherz, just how do you figure that Depp hates America? He never said that. He criticises the current political climate in his country. His view is shared by many Americans, if not most.
Criticising your country, does not mean you hate it. On the contrary it may actually mean you care about it quite a lot. Very few people hate their own country, how can they? You can hate the government or regime or the living conditions but not the country itself or it's people without hating yourself.
I can understand why a naturalized citizen might be reluctant to criticise his/her adopted country. I'd feel the same way too. But it's allowed.
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Depp's PR people have released an apology - stating that his words were 'grossly misinterpreted.'
No link - heard it on Howard this morning.
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Read this
http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=3391275
Jumping to conclusions is a National Right Wing passtime.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Read this
http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=3391275
Jumping to conclusions is a National Right Wing passtime.
As opposed to the Left Wing passtime of never coming to one?
Originally posted by Johnny "Depp" Depp
"I am an American. I love my country and have great hopes for it." "It is for this reason that I speak candidly and sometimes critically about it.
Oh how I grow tired of people trying to justify their political suckerpunches with that line.
HTC is a worthless organization. They are like a puppy... a young puppy with big teeth that posts about updates and then never produces them. They are full of lies and deciet. I want my children to go fly Aces High, get the feel, and then get out. I refuse to return to Aces High until HiTech and Skuzzy are removed from power.
I say these things because I am an Aces High subscriber and I have great hopes for the game. It is for this reason that I speak candidly and sometimes critically about it.
<--Insert rolly eye guy here
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Read this
http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=3391275
Jumping to conclusions is a National Right Wing passtime.
Depp can act and do the crab as well....I'm impressed.
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HTC is a .... organization. They are like a puppy... a young puppy .... that posts about updates and then ...produces them. ........ I want my children to go fly Aces High, get the feel, ...... I ... return to Aces High ....
Wow... your statement has been "insanely twisted ".
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Not to mention inane to the point of delirium.
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"My daughter is four, my boy is one. I'd like them to see America as a toy, a broken toy. Investigate it a little, check it out, get this feeling and then get out,"
Sounds like he loves the place.... And this makes the stement carry over beyond the currebt political climate - unless you liberals think that 4 year old children are fit toi make informed ploitical decisions, oh wait uhhmmm...
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
4 year old children are fit toi make informed ploitical decisions, ...
Don't believe everything you read.
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So his daughter is not 4 years old?
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"My daughter is four, my boy is one. I'd like them to see America as a toy, a broken toy. Investigate it a little, check it out, get this feeling and then get out,"
Tell me MT what is the preper left wing approved interpretation of that stement?
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You either hate something or you love it, eh Grunherz?
You really are the epitome of an Orwellian future, where only extremes of emotion are deemed acceptable.
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You either trust the German magazine and believe that all of those quotes are completely as spoken by Depp, or you believe Depp who claims that his words were "insanely twisted".
I guess you choose to believe the magazine. why?
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You do understanfd that your all or nothing post fits that pattern...
I love the left wing idea of "patriotism through hatred." Its no wopnder so many left wingers protested against a US repons after 911..
:rolleyes:
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Ill just say its funny you guys first defend his statement as some higher more sophisticated form of left wing patriotism.... And now he retracts it.. Interesting...
Yiou seemed to have no trouble beliving in those sentiments before, now you are so eager to distance yourself from them.
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No one defended his statement, they defended his right to make it. Big difference. And now it seems he may not have made it at all.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
You either trust the German magazine and believe that all of those quotes are completely as spoken by Depp, or you believe Depp who claims that his words were "insanely twisted".
I guess you choose to believe the magazine. why?
Since when are people unable to make their own decisions on what they believe? I dont require a magazine to tell me what to think - I can read and make my judgement on what is most likely truthful based on the facts. That facts sorrounding the individual lead me to believe that he was quoted accurately in the magazine and the 'apology' is about as deep as the shallow end of a bathtub. I am further insulted by the fact that he can show up to an interview and scorch his country of birth in person, but somehow cant seem to do anything other than have his lackys offer the apology for him.
Dowding - I dont underastand your big words. Could you dumb it down to puppy level for me?
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Im fcking sick of this left wing lie that all of you BBS liberals use that crioticizing speech is the same as trying to suppress it.
He has EVERY RIGHT to say that. I HAVE EVERY RIGHT to disagree and criticize him if I find them objectionable.
Why is that so hard for yoiu gus to undrstand.
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You expressed the opinion that he should leave the country simply because he said something bad about it.
Not the same thing.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Why is that so hard for yoiu gus to undrstand.
They understand it perfectly and it cuts their material in half - thats why they dont acknowlege it.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
You expressed the opinion that he should leave the country simply because he said something bad about it.
Not the same thing.
I dont think I said that he should leave the contry... In fact he is the only person asking people, namely his kids, to leave the USA...
Are we reading the same message board?
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Funny he has no qualms making his living in America..
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It is funny. However that is not a stement demanding he leave the country as he has allready done so, it merely points out his hypocrisy that in fact the very USA he cant stand is the only reason he can have such an extravagant lifestyle in France. If anything since he allready stated he cant live in the USA I merely suggested that he extend his boycott to doing business with big US studios. Surely that message would make a much bigger impact....
I want him to stay here, hes a good actor and instead of running away he should face the heat here and do something if hes such a true patriot as you left wings proclaim him to be. Hes a pretty piss poor patriot sniping from across the ocean in his multi million $$$$ mnsion south of France..
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I don't stop seeing a movie by an actor because of what they may say. But do lose my respect by the way they dis the country or the President. You can disaggree. Thats find. No problem. But it's the way they do it. Like George Clonie (?). I thought he had some class. But they way he was dissaggreeing with the President over Iraq on TV made him look like a idea. Not a clear cut disagreement, out lined why he thought that way. But an angry bitter person that wasn't getting his way attitude.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
That facts sorrounding the individual lead me to believe that he was quoted accurately in the magazine and the 'apology' is about as deep as the shallow end of a bathtub.
Please Saur, what facts?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Please Saur, what facts?
Lets look at them:
1.) Actor Johnny Depp makes statements which are considered to be of an inflamitory nature towards the United States.
2.) Actor Johnny Depp makes these statements during an interview with a German magazine.
3.) Actor Johnny Depp lives in southern France.
4.) Actor Johnny Depp is married to a French woman.
5.) Actor Johnny Depp, upon the public outcry over his remarks, has his public relations people write and submit a public apology.
6.) Actor Johnny Depp, in this apology written by his staff, states that he was misquoted and his words were taken out of context. He states that he loves America.
Now which conclusion would you think is more likely based upon the above:
1.) Actor Johnny Depp, considering the quotes in the interview, his chosen nation of residence, his chosen mate's citizenship, thinks very highly of the United States. In fact, he loves it so much that he plans on returning to the US, wants his kids to live in the US, and is outraged at the seemingly backstabbing actions of the French government towards the United States over the conflict in Iraq. His apology is deep, meaningful, and honest, even though he was completely misquoted when he refered to the US as an 'aggressive puppy' who can bite you with its 'teeth.' His was also totally misquoted when he stated that he would not return to the US until the political climate changed. He was also misquoted when he stated that he wanted his children to 'get a feel' for the US and then 'get out.' The German reporter didnt like Pirates of the Caribbean and this was his way of getting back at Johnny - in fact, he disliked the movie so much, that he just put words into Johnny's mouth.
2.) Actor Johnny Depp, considering the quotes in the interview, his chosen nation of residence, his chosen mate's citizenship, thinks very poorly of his birth nation and thats exactly what he meant to say during the interview. His 'apology' is a knee jerk reaction to save his 'well liked' celebrity status and preserve his income level and popularity with fans.
Im trying to see things from your viewpoint here, MT, but I cant get my head that far up my ass.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Lets look at them:
1.) Actor Johnny Depp makes statements which are considered to be of an inflamitory nature towards the United States.
2.) Actor Johnny Depp makes these statements during an interview with a German magazine.
3.) Actor Johnny Depp lives in southern France.
4.) Actor Johnny Depp is married to a French woman.
5.) Actor Johnny Depp, upon the public outcry over his remarks, has his public relations people write and submit a public apology.
6.) Actor Johnny Depp, in this apology written by his staff, states that he was misquoted and his words were taken out of context. He states that he loves America.
Now which conclusion would you think is more likely based upon the above:
1.) Actor Johnny Depp, considering the quotes in the interview, his chosen nation of residence, his chosen mate's citizenship, thinks very highly of the United States. In fact, he loves it so much that he plans on returning to the US, wants his kids to live in the US, and is outraged at the seemingly backstabbing actions of the French government towards the United States over the conflict in Iraq. His apology is deep, meaningful, and honest, even though he was completely misquoted when he refered to the US as an 'aggressive puppy' who can bite you with its 'teeth.' His was also totally misquoted when he stated that he would not return to the US until the political climate changed. He was also misquoted when he stated that he wanted his children to 'get a feel' for the US and then 'get out.' The German reporter didnt like Pirates of the Caribbean and this was his way of getting back at Johnny - in fact, he disliked the movie so much, that he just put words into Johnny's mouth.
2.) Actor Johnny Depp, considering the quotes in the interview, his chosen nation of residence, his chosen mate's citizenship, thinks very poorly of his birth nation and thats exactly what he meant to say during the interview. His 'apology' is a knee jerk reaction to save his 'well liked' celebrity status and preserve his income level and popularity with fans.
Im trying to see things from your viewpoint here, MT, but I cant get my head that far up my ass.
Oh but Saur, its already is there.
Your "facts"... :rolleyes:
1.) Actor Johnny Depp makes statements which are considered to be of an inflamitory nature towards the United States. assuming the German periodical didn't "insanely twist" his words. Hardly a "fact"
2.) Actor Johnny Depp makes these statements during an interview with a German magazine. The sky is blue
3.) Actor Johnny Depp lives in southern France. His wife is French. I hear the South of France is very beautiful... many people vacation there.
4.) Actor Johnny Depp is married to a French woman. A very beautiful French woman. The bastard.
5.) Actor Johnny Depp, upon the public outcry over his remarks, has his public relations people write and submit a public apology. Or maybe he saw the misquotes and poor interpretation of his words when it was reported by the US press, and chose to do something about it.
6.) Actor Johnny Depp, in this apology written by his staff, states that he was misquoted and his words were taken out of context. He states that he loves America.
"I am an American. I love my country and have great hopes for it," Depp said in a statement released by his Los Angeles-based publicist. "It is for this reason that I speak candidly and sometimes critically about it. I have benefited greatly from the freedom that exists in my country and for this I am eternally grateful." - RELEASED BY, NOT WRITTEN BY.
That darkness surrounding you can be cured Saur.... pull your head out and make room for your Gerbil.
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Brittany says we should all trust our President.
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I think the part that amuses me most is that Depp is living in a country that had something on the order of 10000 deaths relating to heat exhaustion. 3X more ppl died in this 1 week in Aug than did in the WTC attack. They died despite Frances wonderful socialized medicine. They died despite the "cradle to grave" living arrangements. They died because they didn't have a freakin air conditioner or couldn't get a response from emergency dispatch.
Oh ya the French government is far superior to our own.
NOTE: The US government has done some incredibly brainless things as well I'm not defending them just pointing out the folly of the concept of the superior French government.
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I'll take him at his most recent word and forget whatever he may or may not have said before.
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MT - that was pretty weak - I expected more from the pride of the tribe.
In order to make a convincing argument, youre going to have to do a little more than question the validity of the events which transpired simply because I relayed them to you.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
MT - that was pretty weak - I expected more from the pride of the tribe.
In order to make a convincing argument, youre going to have to do a little more than question the validity of the events which transpired simply because I relayed them to you.
Uh huh.
OK, then. I choose to accept the words "written by" Depp, as opposed to the words "quoted by" the German Language magazine.
There are no real facts here, just degrees of possibility. I think it is much more likely that Depp's self ascribed words are more "factual" than the quotes from a known sensationalistic magazine. YMMV
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3.) Actor Johnny Depp lives in southern France.
4.) Actor Johnny Depp is married to a French woman.
Muahahah !
straight facts that cannot be negated :p