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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Rude on September 04, 2003, 10:20:49 AM

Title: Accountability?
Post by: Rude on September 04, 2003, 10:20:49 AM
Since most every elected Office in the State of California is held by a Democrat, who is accountable for the current woes?

Bush?
Title: Accountability?
Post by: AKIron on September 04, 2003, 10:26:29 AM
No one, isn't that the problem?
Title: Accountability?
Post by: gofaster on September 04, 2003, 10:27:46 AM
Well, you could blame the Dems.

Or you could blame it on the few Repubs in office.

Or you could blame it on the non-elected civil servants.

Or you could blame it on the taxpayers for not ante-ing up the money to run an effective government.
Title: Accountability?
Post by: Sandman on September 04, 2003, 10:40:02 AM
...or you could assign some of the blame to Enron.
Title: Accountability?
Post by: Mini D on September 04, 2003, 10:48:11 AM
I don't quite understand why there's even a debate on this one.  There's only one group to blame in California right now:

The voters.

The downside is that the same group of people are going to determine just whom they'd like to ruin the budget next.

MiniD
Title: Accountability?
Post by: Sikboy on September 04, 2003, 10:51:06 AM
I blame Hollywierd.

-Sik
Title: Accountability?
Post by: SOB on September 04, 2003, 10:51:49 AM
What mini said.  I'm just waiting for them to follow Quebec's lead and vote to become their own country.


SOB
Title: Accountability?
Post by: Drunky on September 04, 2003, 10:57:16 AM
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Originally posted by SOB
What mini said.  I'm just waiting for them to follow Quebec's lead and vote to become their own country.


SOB



I hear California has WMDs.  We should preemptively invade now before they seperate and decided to attack us.

Of course if Hollywood falls down, goes boom...oh well.  I guess all those actors/actresses will have to find real jobs and then their opinions won't matter anymore.
Title: Accountability?
Post by: midnight Target on September 04, 2003, 11:09:41 AM
Its that asteriod. I mean if its gonna hit... who cares anyway?
Title: Accountability?
Post by: AKIron on September 04, 2003, 11:21:22 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Its that asteriod. I mean if its gonna hit... who cares anyway?


Since we're straying off topic here, whaddaya think about that asteroid? Think they'd tell us if in fact it is going to hit us?
Title: Accountability?
Post by: midnight Target on September 04, 2003, 11:27:30 AM
I think there are too many amateur astronomers to keep it a secret.
Title: Accountability?
Post by: AKIron on September 04, 2003, 11:30:09 AM
An amateur might be able to predict a collision when it's only a few months out but it seems unlikely to me they could do it any earlier. I suspect that if it could possibly be kept a secret it would be. Imagine the chaos otherwise. Not that it would matter much.
Title: Accountability?
Post by: rpm on September 04, 2003, 11:33:29 AM
The way I understood it, about 90% of California's budget is already spent by mandate that was voted for by the public (schools, highways, ect). That leaves very little for the Governor to do. But it is interesting to watch the wheels come off the political wagon. How long after the election before the next recall?
Title: Accountability?
Post by: midnight Target on September 04, 2003, 11:40:07 AM
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Originally posted by AKIron
An amateur might be able to predict a collision when it's only a few months out but it seems unlikely to me they could do it any earlier. I suspect that if it could possibly be kept a secret it would be. Imagine the chaos otherwise. Not that it would matter much.


Well amateur might have been a poor choice of words. Too many astronomers period that are not govermentally funded or controlled. And some of them have access to really good equipment (almost every State university in the Country). An impending collision is something that we would all find out in a New York minute.
Title: Accountability?
Post by: AKIron on September 04, 2003, 11:43:13 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
An impending collision is something that we would all find out in a New York minute.


I bet the dinosaurs said the same thing. ;)
Title: Accountability?
Post by: Furious on September 04, 2003, 12:25:01 PM
I hope the asteriod IS on a collision course.  

Not because I want to see the earth hit by an asteriod, but instead I think it could be a catalyst for huge leaps in space exploration.

Also, it might be good for the peoples of earth too, perspective wise.  All on the same boat sorta thing.
Title: Accountability?
Post by: AKIron on September 04, 2003, 12:44:49 PM
Latest is that it won't hit us. Of course that is what they might say to avoid chaos. But... I think they are telling the truth.
Title: Re: Accountability?
Post by: wulfie on September 04, 2003, 12:46:20 PM
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Originally posted by Rude
Since most every elected Office in the State of California is held by a Democrat, who is accountable for the current woes?

Bush?


I'm not a democrat. What has really surprised me is that there is no mention of the senior leadership of some of the various power companies who have been found guilty of illegal pricing, illegal 'regulation' of power, etc. basically prove that Davis and the rest of CA. got *screwed* by a bunch of greedy bastards.

Like him or not, a notable part of CA. budget woes have nothing to do with politics. CA. was ripped off.

Mike/wulfie
Title: Accountability?
Post by: Krusher on September 04, 2003, 12:58:13 PM
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Originally posted by rpm371
The way I understood it, about 90% of California's budget is already spent by mandate that was voted for by the public (schools, highways, ect). That leaves very little for the Governor to do. But it is interesting to watch the wheels come off the political wagon. How long after the election before the next recall?


I read 40 percent, but its still a large amount
Title: Accountability?
Post by: capt. apathy on September 04, 2003, 01:31:50 PM
you could blame the stupid recall process they have.  recalls are fine in the case of gross misconduct but this recall for being dis-satisfied is stupid.

it's bad enough that politicians spend much of their time and almost all of the last year in office camoaigning for the next term, but there where recall papers being filed almost imediatly after the election was over.

  how do you expect anything to get acomplished if elected officials have to run a full time election campaign from the moment they are in office?

maybe he would have done a good job, maybe he would have sucked, who know he never had a chance to do anything with this term before having to deal with this recall election
Title: Accountability?
Post by: Otto on September 04, 2003, 05:08:59 PM
"who is accountable "  

I have a degree in Accounting and I can't even account for myself...:p