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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hitech on September 04, 2003, 11:21:57 AM
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Basic concept would be that every time some one uses profanity or abusive behavior,or whines. A multiplier is lowered. This multiplier is applied to the jerk's planes hardness, thus lowering it.
It recovers over a period of time where that person playes nice with others. Or posibly by helping out new players.
No idea how I could monitor the behavior.
HiTech
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That's easy HT, just show us enemy names on the icons. ;)
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Wow, the wind resistance would damage Shane's plane.
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Gosh, HiTech...with some players, their foot would go right through the wing the moment they tried to climb into the cockpit! The joystick would snap off in their hand with the first tug. Heck, with some folks, their planes would catch fire and crumble to dust the instant someone looked sideways at it! I LIKE IT!!!:D
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That would make guys think twice before they go off on channel 1. It would be cool feature though.
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Would this apply to the squad channel? ;)
SOB
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Originally posted by Sabre
...The joystick would snap off in their hand with the first tug...
This has an oddly familiar ring to it. :)
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Could add an icon to the clipboard, like a shovel. The more shovels the softer you get. Once you hit 5 shovels, your plane is a hydrogen filled blimp. :)
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Wow, the wind resistance would damage Shane's plane.
nope, i'd come out even due to the help i do provide. do you ever help anyone?
:D
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Ehh, why not just auto-disco/boot players for say a day or 2 if they try to use bad words several times instead of just the warning?
When you sign up for AH, the handle in MA could also be followed in here so you could boot players in MA if they constantly talk crap/whine etc on the bbs adn do not take notice to warnings... would be easyer to monitor if handles are same
I dunno, just my 500$ worth
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Originally posted by SOB
Would this apply to the squad channel? ;)
Dark days indeed.
MiniD
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uh oh.... i better seek counselling
:D
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Originally posted by Mini D
Dark days indeed.
MiniD
LOL The FDB's and half the Marine Air Wing would auto destruct every time they hit they runway if it applied to squad channel!!
Love the Idea HT. Like to see an announcment on text buffer too. XXX has just been an arse and auto destruct started count down 5 4 3 2 1 XXX has been killed.
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(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0783226799.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg) X2
done! :)
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Bad idea HT. I want to die sometimes also, I do not need a bullet prove supersonic c47 :)
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Hmmm.... I love the idea! :D
:)
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Drop all country text and 99% of it will disappear :)
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Is there some way you can keep track of the total number of ".ignore xxxxxxx"'s that have been issued against a particular
player? That would be a good way for the entire community to have say into a player's status as "jerk".
It'd be neat to change that player's red icon to blue also, so all the enemy pilots can see who the jerks with real soft airplanes are....
Muhahahahaha....
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How about just a permanent squelch option?... tired of typing it in every time i enter the arena :D
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I can't wait to have "Be a Jerk" squad night to see who can achieve the flimsiest plane.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Here is one implementation suggestion:
Change the icon of the "jerk" to that of a perk plane. The enemy will be drawn to the offender like moths to a lightbulb.
MiG
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Originally posted by Shane
nope, i'd come out even due to the help i do provide. do you ever help anyone?
:D
yeah, I tell them to calm down and just .squelch Shane:D
P.S. Just kidding Shane, go easy on me;)
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Just make the 'jerk's name show up instead of plane type icon. The AH community will take care of the punishment. Heh.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I can't wait to have "Be a Jerk" squad night to see who can achieve the flimsiest plane.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Great idea :)
And this post is the best HT joke ever, I bet many people here bought it. :)
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" this post is the best HT joke ever"
Nope. I saw a series of posts in a topic in the "aircraft" forum that preceded his making this one. Possibly add in the multiple complaints about their lack of giving us news on AH-II and .....
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Wow, the wind resistance would damage Shane's plane.
Aint that the truth.
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Make the jerks tow banners that say"I'm a jerkoff', the bigger the jerk, the bigger the banner :)
Bumba
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Originally posted by CMC Airboss
Here is one implementation suggestion:
Change the icon of the "jerk" to that of a perk plane. The enemy will be drawn to the offender like moths to a lightbulb.
MiG
MIGS GOT A GREAT IDEA that will fix thiem Jerks!:D
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There is an easy way to acomplish this without any complicated monitoring system. Allow players to "ding" others at a specific perk point cost. As an example lets say lodging a "complaint" cost 10 perk points and a single player could only lodge 1 complaint per tour against any one player. If the number of complaints exceeds some minimum value (10 for ex) then you implement whatever the designated penalty is:)....would take a bit of tweaking but the arena would police itself to a degree.
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If someone really is a BIG jerk by offending other players or something and he is on my team I have on a couple of occations been known to set some time aside to follow that player around and given check 6 calls until he gets the message. :D
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.jerk
when < x > number of people vote.. players plane becomes a macy's day snoopy balloon.
ps. i took a certain popular jerks name out of my example to show what a nice guy i am. ;)
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The solution I gave you two years ago would work much better:)
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Originally posted by hitech
Basic concept would be that every time some one uses profanity or abusive behavior,or whines. A multiplier is lowered. This multiplier is applied to the jerk's planes hardness, thus lowering it.
It recovers over a period of time where that person playes nice with others. Or posibly by helping out new players.
No idea how I could monitor the behavior.
HiTech
Or just limit their plane choices to say . . .Vals, Stukas and P-40Bs--whatever hasn't been flown all day.
Sakai
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isnt it amazing how the jerkiness even appeared in a thread where was trying to play it down? Its like ocd I guess.
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ROFL Laz would have to take up model car building or pipe smoking, etc.:D
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Originally posted by Jackal1
ROFL Laz would have to take up model car building or pipe smoking, etc.:D
Ah Manual
Page 17, sub section b,
Lazs obsessed-->
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I'd always have someone online monitoring channel one and the country channels. If someone is naughty give 'em a warning. If they continue, just mute them for awhile, the length determined by how bad they were.
MRPLUTO VMF-323 ~Death Rattlers~ MAG-33
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Awesome idea!
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Ask not for whom the Dale trolls -- he trolls for thee!
Fun idea, but would the monitoring and enforcement required be worth the effort? Even what constitutes profanity, especially with altered spellings, is not easy to determine.
Smacks a bit of Big Brother or Red Light Traffic Cameras or Utopian Ratfinking or Small Town Social Compliance.
Could inadvertently squelch honest dissent and constructive criticism even if sometimes clumsily offered.
Some might even revel in the notority of being chosen an Official Jerk and become even more obnoxious.
Then again, enforcement could be simple. One warning, two warnings, and third time account is cancelled.
(Thus emerges a new vocation: Aces High jerk appeals counsellor.)
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In Fighter ace ... msn zone they use moderators/sysops ,they would come into a room and watch when asked to if there was an extreame problem with a player getting violent on the chat channels.. they would warn the player and remind them to behave or they would get banned until they reread the rules , after that if they kept at it they would get the 3 day ban , and then the perma ban if they didnt wise up and fly right.
the moderaters also helped with gameplay issues/training ect .
they also had access to the chat log so they could scroll thru it and see who was being the problem child ...
one thing i have to say is that the chat on channel one has cleaned up 100 percent from over 2 years ago .... back then it was .squelch 1 everytime i entered the arena.
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HT who hurt you?;) or who you try to scare?;)
good joke anyway:D :D :D
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For every word of profanity one part of the offender's aircraft becomes bright pink for 20 min. Post an arena-wide message that perk points are doubled *per pink component* when a pink colored aircraft is downed.
Maybe turn the icon pink as well.
I'd say private and squad channels are exempt.
Mike/wulfie
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hitech drank too much from that bribe-stuff. probably many players trying to get AH2 released earlier.
There already are complaints about auto-filtering triggering to some parts of non-bad words and about "player"(?) mods that don't treat everyone equal.
How would that be if it actually had an effect on game play?
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I wonder what brought this up? :rolleyes:
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It could be easier than worring about 'hardness'. Simply turn on the airshow smoke for all their planes :D.
OH! ...and give extra perks for killin' them.
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Mebbe all of a sudden HT has some free time, as he's handed off the code, for Pyro to build the readme...
SKurj
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Oh HT just a reminder frame 3 of iceburg is sat. Hate to see you miss out again playing on your own darn server!
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Originally posted by Roscoroo(work)
In Fighter ace ... msn zone they use moderators/sysops ,they would come into a room and watch when asked to if there was an extreame problem with a player getting violent on the chat channels.. they would warn the player and remind them to behave or they would get banned until they reread the rules , after that if they kept at it they would get the 3 day ban , and then the perma ban if they didnt wise up and fly right.
Maybe they appoint Shane as sysop?
:)
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OK OK....fess up.....whos been visiting HT cheap bribe link :D
But seriously...while an interesting idea....Im not sure how it would be implimented. Some of those less skillful in the art of verbal jousting would inevitably be hosed over by those who can say really evil nastey things in a unique way not directly actionable by a filter.....and I sure as hell dont want anonimous moderators damaging peoples planes....I can see the flames now :eek:
I would however really like to see typing the words "ALT-F4" cause the offending party to explode immediately....and be forced to fly the 262 the rest of the day (or until their perks run out)....now THAT would make me happy.
Such an 'innocent' joke can really turn off new players...and if we lose just 10 such players a month...thats over $21,000......do you see those numbers people....if we turn off just 10 potential customers a month...its 21k in a rolling 12 month period.
10 players/month=120 a year
120 players x $14.95 x 12months= $21,528.00
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Originally posted by Apache
Ah Manual
Page 17, sub section b,
Lazs obsessed-->
:D :D :D Get out of his lap before Toad gets jealous.
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why not tie the language filter to the plane hardness...and set the filter up so if theres more than 1 uppercase letteer in a sentence it triggers...would probably be the easiest way...
great idea...
oh and hitech who did you get to write that for you...i didnt notice any spelling or grammer errors...wich would be what to excpect if you were hard at work coding ah2...
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Originally posted by icemaw
Oh HT just a reminder frame 3 of iceburg is sat. Hate to see you miss out again playing on your own darn server!
Yes, and we start at 3pm EASTERN time.... Lololol..
We missed having you in US9, as we had only 5 players and 2 logged early (European players in need of beauty rest).
Cya Saturday.
My regards,
Widewing
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So... is this Jerk Multiplier an arena-only thing for arena behavior? Or is it based on BBS activities also. It seems to me everybody who posts on the BBS deserves a modifier, the various assignments are the only question.
Hooligan
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Originally posted by Hooligan
So... is this Jerk Multiplier an arena-only thing for arena behavior? Or is it based on BBS activities also. It seems to me everybody who posts on the BBS deserves a modifier, the various assignments are the only question.
Hooligan
It had better be arena-only. If it isn't it's time for me to brush up on flying the A6M2. :)
Mike/wulfie
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HT not so difficult to monitor it , FLY again in the main arena .
U have been to long away .
But i think when U show everybody is nice till U leave :D
But again think U must fly sometimes again think alot of people should like that again .
svalan
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i can see it now......
(http://www.animationusa.com/picts/wbpict/cug.jpg)
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Great. I hope it's not automatic.
My ID's got "ass" embedded in it..
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HT,
Give everyone who logs in a single golden BB per day. Make sending it easy, like .shoot Gameid. Play a loud "ping" sound when you get shot.
A single bb from another player causes
1 minor random damage.
2 = larger damage, gun jam, etc.
3 = Oil line failure, fuel leak, fire, etc.
5 in a 15 min period blows up your plane & mutes you on channel 1 for 1 hour.
10 bb's shut down your AH Voice, kill all comms except squad, a
Let the people online decide who's ok & who's rocking the boat.
However, AH is not the place to hold a grudge. So if you shoot the same person more than 3 times in a week you lose your BB's for a week.
Last, let people save a few, but not more than a weeks worth. BB's unused after a week evaporate.
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you could always have a diaper with wings for the cry babies and a towel with wings for the whiners . this way they will have thier plane to fly for sure ..lol
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Gallager - the comedian - had an interesting idea about idiots who drive cars.
Every one is armed with a dart gun. When you see someone being an idiot, you shoot his car. When the police see a guy with 10 "idiot" darts stuck to his car, they pull him over and give him a ticket for being an idiot.
This brings me to the concept of Jerk darts in AH.
It's like a voting system.
Just like we all can type .ignore XXXXX
How about .jerk XXXXXX
After 15 votes... that guy's name appears over his plane, his plane doesn't fly so well, and he's smoking and burning oil.
People get 3x perk points for killing him too. And he get's no perk points for killing any one. And perk planes cost 3x as much just for him, his ammo load is halved, and his bullets do 2x less damage.
he and everyone in the community knows he's been voted as a jerk.
And most the best feature of all - Jerks can be fragged. Killshooter is turned off and JerkShooter is turned on.
Everyone get's 2 jerk votes per 24 hour period... and if someone votes too much like every day for a week... then it counts as 15 votes against themselves. This last rule is to prevent people from just being malicious with this feature.
Only 5 votes allowed from any one squad - don't want squads acting like hit squads either.
This could be a fun feature!
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jerkal1 ... that's pretty good very apt.... but then not as descriptive as his original handle.. still, why anyone would give themselves the handle of "jizzhead" is beyond me.... descriptive or not.
lazs
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Originally posted by Jackal1
:D :D :D Get out of his lap before Toad gets jealous.
lol, you completed the image I have of you. You even bark like a chihuahua.
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What amuses me about all this is how most here think this will only affect the other guy. =o)
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Originally posted by lazs2
jerkal1 ... that's pretty good very apt.... but then not as descriptive as his original handle.. still, why anyone would give themselves the handle of "jizzhead" is beyond me.... descriptive or not.
lazs
Hey, Curval is "superjizz" ! Nothing wrong with that :D
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Originally posted by Grizzly
What amuses me about all this is how most here think this will only affect the other guy. =o)
Woot! Word, brother Griz, what was it that I think Swift said? "Satire is a sort of glass, wherein beholders do generally discover everybody's face but their own; which is the chief reason for that kind of reception it meets in the world, and that so very few are offended with it."?
Sakai
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Originally posted by Apache
lol, you completed the image I have of you. You even bark like a chihuahua.
Your just used to little dogs like Laz a.k.a. Humpy The Wonder Pooch. Don`t roam with the big dogs , play it safe. Now go take your place in line . It`s prolly get close to your quality lap sitting time also.
Little dogs like you belong under the porch anyway.:D
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Originally posted by lazs2
jerkal1 ... that's pretty good very apt.... but then not as descriptive as his original handle.. still, why anyone would give themselves the handle of "jizzhead" is beyond me.... descriptive or not.
lazs
Humpy , your just lucky your spelling powers are as rotten as your comprehension and math talents. Liz is spelled with an "I" but we`ll look over it. The pink shirt gives ya away anyway.:D
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Humpy , your just lucky your spelling powers are as rotten as your comprehension and math talents. Liz is spelled with an "I" but we`ll look over it. The pink shirt gives ya away anyway.:D
Your plane is looking pretty flimsy, Jackal.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by hitech
Basic concept would be that every time some one uses profanity or abusive behavior,or whines. A multiplier is lowered. This multiplier is applied to the jerk's planes hardness, thus lowering it.
It recovers over a period of time where that person playes nice with others. Or posibly by helping out new players.
No idea how I could monitor the behavior.
HiTech
How about this? Count the number of squelches applied to the jerk. For each 10 squelchs (dunno, maybe more/less), reduce his ability to carry ammo by 50%.
Make the effect last 30 minutes and reset his squelch counter to 0 at that point.
I still like my idea about giving the squelchee visual feedback: Each time someone is squelched, announce it via channel 6 .
curly
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Originally posted by Ghosth
HT,
Give everyone who logs in a single golden BB per day. Make sending it easy, like .shoot Gameid. Play a loud "ping" sound when you get shot.
A single bb from another player causes
1 minor random damage.
2 = larger damage, gun jam, etc.
3 = Oil line failure, fuel leak, fire, etc.
5 in a 15 min period blows up your plane & mutes you on channel 1 for 1 hour.
10 bb's shut down your AH Voice, kill all comms except squad, a
Let the people online decide who's ok & who's rocking the boat.
However, AH is not the place to hold a grudge. So if you shoot the same person more than 3 times in a week you lose your BB's for a week.
Last, let people save a few, but not more than a weeks worth. BB's unused after a week evaporate.
and whats stopping someone from waiting till they get shot down then using that to take him out...or a bunch of dweebs picking random names from opponents...
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If someone is that big of a jerk, how about having their plane suddenly start spouting pink wingtip smoke. Everyone who see's it and shoots him/her before he gets back to base and exits properly (The plane can't shoot but becomes indestructable) receives 10 of that pilots perk points and if they disco or auger while streaming pink smoke they lose all perk points? Oh, this feature also mutes them as well :D
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Your plane is looking pretty flimsy, Jackal.
-- Todd/Leviathn
:D Not a problem. I learned in a "flimsy" plane at a very young age. :p
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kill[mouth]shooter!
pilot 1: you ()*head!
pilot 1's plane: BANG [wing falls off]
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so that's what it's all about.... jerkal is stalking me because I won't let him sit in my lap and he thinks others are.... it's all so clear now.. I thought he was kidding all this time asking me in private if he could come over and do a lap dance.
lazs
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A whine has been recorded...
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JUST PERK CHANNEL 1............................ ......1perk per word
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Originally posted by rod367th
JUST PERK CHANNEL 1............................ ......1perk per word
I can see it now Rod:
youslobberdonkeyhoingnikdweeb sorryazzsob!
The lack of spaces/punctuation on this board is bad enough.
Hehehe... ;)
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Originally posted by lazs2
so that's what it's all about.... jerkal is stalking me because I won't let him sit in my lap and he thinks others are.... it's all so clear now.. I thought he was kidding all this time asking me in private if he could come over and do a lap dance.
lazs
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Originally posted by vorticon
oh and hitech who did you get to write that for you...i didnt notice any spelling or grammer errors...
You didn't? :D
"Basic concept would be that every time some one uses profanity or abusive behavior,or whines. A multiplier is lowered. This multiplier is applied to the jerk's planes hardness, thus lowering it.
It recovers over a period of time where that person playes nice with others. Or posibly by helping out new players.
No idea how I could monitor the behavior. "
Looks genuine enough to me..... ;)
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LOL... Flossy, I think your planes just got a little weaker =oD
Originally posted by Flossy
You didn't? :D
"Basic concept would be that every time some one uses profanity or abusive behavior,or whines. A multiplier is lowered. This multiplier is applied to the jerk's planes hardness, thus lowering it.
It recovers over a period of time where that person playes nice with others. Or posibly by helping out new players.
No idea how I could monitor the behavior. "
Looks genuine enough to me..... ;)
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Originally posted by hitech
Basic concept would be that every time some one uses profanity or abusive behavior,or whines.
Do it for the profanity/abuse. Whines are a necessary aspect of this game, and generate much that is useful.
-oldman
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
Ehh, why not just auto-disco/boot players for say a day or 2 if they try to use bad words several times instead of just the warning?
The system currently is far from perfect. I've seen too many times people using creative spelling techniques to get around the built in censor and not get flagged by the moral police in place at all. If it were even once applied unfairly, with favoritism, or even a slight lean to one side, people would have every right, without contention or argument, to leave the game entirely. Then where would HTC be?
The punishment you propose is too severe.
HT has an idea brewing that sounds good.
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Originally posted by hitech
It recovers over a period of time where that person playes nice with others. Or posibly by helping out new players.
No idea how I could monitor the behavior.
Monitoring is not really a problem I would think since you have people in place doing the monitoring, and filters on the text buffer. A better system of interperating the degree of transgression and applying it fairly is needed. Beyond that, you could implement any system that thumps your trunk.
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I like ghosth's idea.
Instead of having the plane physically weaker, it would increase the frequency of failures.
When you first start playing it is impossible to have a failure.
Players should get some sort of "mark" (like a little symbol or something) when they are "bad." one mark makes some failures happen rarely.
More marks would increase the frequency of failures.
Eventually if you get too many marks you are dead and muted.
Failures would mean like fuel leaks, gun jams, instrument failures, engine failures, etc.
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Originally posted by acepilot2
I like ghosth's idea.
Instead of having the plane physically weaker, it would increase the frequency of failures.
When you first start playing it is impossible to have a failure.
Either way, they would have to work harder. Both are good ideas, the real problem is applying it equitably and fairly.