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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AKIron on September 05, 2003, 12:16:07 AM
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Maybe I'll see Willy Wonka after all.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030905/people_nm/people_depp_dc
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Well, the person in me that likes his movies (Pirates, From Hell, Donnie Brasco, etc are pretty good movies IMO) thinks I can give him a second chance .
However, the cynic in me thinks that he is just covering his bellybutton because he wants to earn more money from us Americans.
Oh well, good thing I don't give a rat's bellybutton about what an actor says. Otherwise, I wouldn't have seen Bull Durham, Shawshank Redemption, Apaocalypse Now, Godfather, etc. Most actors, at some point, will say something that is completely contrary to what I believe. Good thing I go to movies for entertainment instead of furthering a particular set of beliefs.
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I'm always willing to forgive but I'm curious how exactly he was misqouted..
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"What I was saying was that, compared to Europe, America is a very young country and we are still growing as a nation"
Hey.. thats just what I've been thinking
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Nothing wrong about beeing a youngster and still growing....as long as you learn from your mistakes its a natural and healthy progress.
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Originally posted by Fishu
"What I was saying was that, compared to Europe, America is a very young country and we are still growing as a nation"
Hey.. thats just what I've been thinking
Oh yeah - how could we have missed it - its so obvious. Depp obviously meant no ill will with his comments. :rolleyes:
All this talk of puppys, teeth, and being agressive is confusing. Must be that American education showing itself.
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A German magazine....hmm.....we aren't real popular with them as of late...and if he did say anything critical, I'm sure they'd spin it to the max...which is what I think we are seeing here.
So now I will go see Pirates again :)
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The USA as a modern democratic western nation is much older than most European countries... So this idea that the USA is some young uneducated uncultured untested wet behind the ears "puppy" is just more elitist european bull****. Oh yes how cultured europe is having blown herself up twice this century - chiefly due to the immaturity agression and stupidity of the UK, France, and of course Germany. And lets not forget who finally tought the oh so sophisticate Germans about democracy and respect for peace.
Lets remember that the French tried to follow the US example of democratic revolution suceeded in throwing out theiur monarchy but then then turned around immediately into Robespierres barbarism and later napoleonic conquest of empire and only achived democracy much much later.
Should I even mention that Germany did not exist until 1871? And that all it did for the first 75 years of her existance was fight wars and prepare for the next one?
Oh and as for European sophistication shall we even mention that oh so sophisticate ERuropeas greatest unique contribution to political discourse over the past two centuries has been the invention of Communism and Fascism?
Now I actually do like europe its a neat place and as usual most people everuwhere are nice and of course I was born there and still consider myself a part of it in some way as an immigrant here and and an American - but this smug supperiority Europe has towards the USA is pretty obvious - simply teenage rebvellion against modern euiropes thrice (ww1, ww2, cold war) savior and effective parent a the United States of America.
Much good did those old gilded opera houses and 500 year old cathedrals do you....
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Wasn't there someone else in the past year that had a German magazine hack up an interview?
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I dont give a **** about he being a pretentious fool off camera. He is an actor. His acting is whats important. He is a good actor, hence I see his movies.
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GRUNHERZ: Oh yes how cultured europe is having blown herself up twice this century - chiefly due to the immaturity agression and stupidity of the UK, France, and of course Germany.
You are too modest omitting the US role in making WWI as terrible as it was and having it conclude as it did with all the implications for the rest of the century.
True, the Europe did manage to start a stupid territorial war in 1914 that got out of hand while US was wrapping up the extermination of the native population, racial re-segregation and bloodily assuming control of the former colonies of the Spanish Empire, as well as digesting the spoils of agression against Mexico. (Those pesky oppressive mexicans, how could they deny the freedom-minded americans encroaching into Texas their god-given liberty to own slaves! Remember Alamo?)
The european war turned much bloodier than anybody expected but that's a common mistake when technology advances so rapidly that the military doctrine does not have time/experience to accomodate the innovations. Just like US war of 1861-65 where terrible sensless casualties resulted from 18th century tactics used with breech-loading rifles, revolvers, machineguns and rapid-fire cannons.
But they (europeans) saw folly of their ways, got terrified by the destruction the modern warfare could wreak and would have made peace in 1916 or early 1917 if US did not intervene, arbitrarily took sides, caused major disbalance of forces, prolonged war (and addded few million more casualties), wreaked havoc in Germany and Russia and made them fall to bolshevism and facism respectively, which set stage for the WWII, Cold War, etc. etc.
Of course the Americans could be partially excused - how could they know that the "evil" Kaiser Wilhelm with his country exhausted and military stretched to the limit and no navy to speak of was not ready to cross the Atlantic and occupy the USA. Their president told them so. They were only defending their freedom...
miko
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Tell me again, how many millions did Stalin murder? 20 wasn't it? Kruschev's hands were far from clean as well.
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But they (europeans) saw folly of their ways, got terrified by the destruction the modern warfare could wreak and would have made peace in 1916 or early 1917 if US did not intervene, arbitrarily took sides,
Arbitraily took sides? Do you really believe this statement?
Are you a troll or a fool?
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True, the Europe did manage to start a stupid territorial war in 1914 that got out of hand while US was wrapping up the extermination of the native population, racial re-segregation and bloodily assuming control of the former colonies of the Spanish Empire, as well as digesting the spoils of agression against Mexico. (Those pesky oppressive mexicans, how could they deny the freedom-minded americans encroaching into Texas their god-given liberty to own slaves! Remember Alamo?)
We didn't exterminate Native Americans....how ignorant . The Indians fought a war against us and lost.
It was the Spanish, French And English ( sophisticated Europe) that took the American and Mexican Native's land......right?
The Americans Legally aquired all or our land. You want a history of how we aquired our land? Hint.....it wasn't aquired from Native Americans.
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Miko, put that retarded guy back into your avatar - it makes your posts that much easier to accept as simple stupidity.
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Wow! Did Johnny Depp do all that?!? AMAZING!
How about getting it back on track folks?
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Um, nevermind. ;)
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Miko your entitled to your opinion. So am I. So in conclusion my reply to your post is.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thats the funniest thing I ever read
I guess the next thing your gonna tell us is that the USA forced the germans to kill all the Jews. Or better yet that it never happened.
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So much for getting it back on track.