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Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: palef on September 05, 2003, 10:22:08 PM
:mad:

I've had it with this poor excuse for skill.

If you see a enemy going down with both engines dead and the tail missing YOU DON'T FREAKING NEED TO PUT ALL YOUR AMMO INTO HIM. He's dead. He's going down. Is your freaking score THAT important to you that you need to steal other people's kills?

I'm mad because I can understand it in the middle of a furball. But when there are only two of you attacking a target and the target has been dispatched, it is VERY disappointing to see the guy that just watched you nail the con FOLLOWING THE wreckage down and filling it with enough holes to steal the kill.

Please insert your witty, you must be a score potato too, response here:___________

palef
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: SunKing on September 05, 2003, 10:51:25 PM
What do you expect with 30 ack huggers chasing one con.
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: bockko on September 05, 2003, 11:34:07 PM
right, just enough ammo to make the remaining fuselage components explode is about all it takes.
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Fatty on September 06, 2003, 12:05:53 AM
I can't seem to get my reply into your post.
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Mini D on September 06, 2003, 12:51:24 AM
This one (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/MINIDKS2.zip) is from tonight.  It's not bad, but not great.

This one (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/MINIDKS.ahf) is great.

MiniD
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Mini D on September 06, 2003, 01:08:00 AM
Ooooo... and this one (http://www.dbstaines.com/images/MINIDKS3.zip) is where I dupe a squadie into getting a perk plane to "help" me protect the HQ... and steal the kill from him after he successfully de-wings the B-17.  You think getting credit for that kill was easy?

MiniD
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: GScholz on September 06, 2003, 08:11:56 AM
I hope your not a Rook Mini D. Why does it come as no surprise that Mini D is a skilless dweeb?

Edit: How shameless! You should be banned for doing that!
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Nilsen on September 06, 2003, 08:23:06 AM
If you see someone trying to steal your kill and he does it repeatidly, do what I do and give him a warning followed by 10-20 check 6 calls if he continues chasing burning wrecks
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: loser on September 06, 2003, 08:52:49 AM
And that will get you banned nilsen.

Palef you do have a point.  I do not like when an enemy plane is wingless, tailess, or on fire and someone dives down to spray into an already dead target.  I dont get so upset about it as you seem to be, but I will say i dont like it.

The thing that bothers me about "kill stealing" in the above mentioned examples is that the enemy plane is no longer a threat, cannot effectively shoot at anyone, and sure as heck isnt going to rtb or even ditch.

However, If a plane is smoking or leaking fluid, missing control surfaces, is dead-stick, or even missing a wingtip, I say he or she is fair game for anyone.  Just because you are saddled up on the enemy's 6 doesnt give you exclusive rights to the kill.
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: jordi on September 06, 2003, 08:59:57 AM
TERRI Says HI LOSER !

She enjoys the letters from Lindsay ! Tell her THANKS From me.

:)

;)

Jordi
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: SOB on September 06, 2003, 09:32:56 AM
If you're not willing to finish the guy off, then don't start crying when someone else does.  It ain't dead until it explodes.


SOB

PS...You're all welcome to ping the hell out of any flaming wreckages falling from the sky by my guns.  But if they bail, the chute's mine!
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: loser on September 06, 2003, 09:36:56 AM
Will do Jordi, will do.

:)
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Devourer on September 06, 2003, 10:01:34 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SOB
It ain't dead until it explodes.


SOB

PS...You're all welcome to ping the hell out of any flaming wreckages falling from the sky by my guns.  But if they bail, the chute's mine!


LOL
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: lazs2 on September 06, 2003, 10:30:56 AM
when gameplay gets so boring that you only see one red guy in your sights every hour or so... ya gotta expect this kinda behavior.
lazs
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: beet1e on September 06, 2003, 11:01:55 AM
Palef - I've done it occasionally. The dots/icons are hard for longsighted(farsighted) people to deal with, and only when getting to 300 yards do I notice that the guy I was firing at from 400 had only one wing. Last time, an LA7 had been popping a friendly buff, dlord. When I realised I'd stolen dlord's kill, I apologised - and dlord replied "np". But I try not to make a habit of it.
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Mini D on September 06, 2003, 11:12:32 AM
Ah... "Killstealer!"... the battle cry of the guy that can't manage more than 2 pings on any plane.  It's pretty easy to call the "killstealer!" skilless... especially since it was the accuser that failed to do enough damage to get the kill.

People are flying around in hordes so much these days that they forget excactly what "skilled" means.

MiniD
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Kegger26 on September 06, 2003, 11:20:02 AM
Mini D when you grow up, I want to be just like you :/
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: nopoop on September 06, 2003, 11:27:21 AM
Good outing, has all the major ingrediants. Best one to come along in weeks.

Highly recommended.  !!

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid75/p6dd1cd9d763a18bfeb088d471176be47/fb4fac88.jpg)
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Flyboy on September 06, 2003, 11:52:20 AM
palef, leave those dweebs behind

fly solo or with friends.

or even batter, come fly knight with me :)
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: palef on September 06, 2003, 02:58:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by nopoop
Good outing, has all the major ingrediants. Best one to come along in weeks.

Highly recommended.  !!

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid75/p6dd1cd9d763a18bfeb088d471176be47/fb4fac88.jpg)


Woohoo!!!

I am honoured! :)

I've been flying the Yak9U as my main ride.

Guess I kind of lost it after the umpteeth kill got shot up several 1000ft below.

You all have valid points from the "crybaby" replies, to the supportive ones.

Nopoop- I'll try harder next time. Could you drop me a line and let me know what I need to do to get into the 9s?

palef
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: eskimo2 on September 06, 2003, 05:00:23 PM
I have a unique emotional response toward kill stealers…









































I get over it.

eskimo
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Mini D on September 06, 2003, 05:19:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Kegger26
Mini D when you grow up, I want to be just like you :/
It's real easy... next time someone steals your ice cream, don't sit there stamping your foot and crying until your mom comes by and changes your diapers.

MiniD
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: MetaTron on September 06, 2003, 11:33:22 PM
I love it when they dive on your kill and midair the wreckage like happened tonight. Right after that I discovered that if you get too close to an enemies six and shoot with cannon rounds you can shoot yourself. So now I am wondering what the magic range is. :confused:
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Innominate on September 07, 2003, 12:09:33 AM
I believe that it is every players duty to ensure that all 'crippled' planes are in fact dead.  More than once I've 'played dead' only to go back and get a few more kills.  It works especially well if you lose a wingtip, and can recover from it.
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Eagler on September 07, 2003, 12:34:04 AM
Quote
Originally posted by MetaTron
I love it when they dive on your kill and midair the wreckage like happened tonight. Right after that I discovered that if you get too close to an enemies six and shoot with cannon rounds you can shoot yourself. So now I am wondering what the magic range is. :confused:


uh, you can't shoot yourself

you can run into wreckage or you can killshoot yourself to death if a team mate pops in front of you but your bullets don't bounce back and hit ur plane :)
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: MetaTron on September 07, 2003, 12:56:47 AM
Well your wrong. I fired from a steady 5ft with hispanos and for every hit sprite I put into my target I took a hit. Nothing else could have shot me. The same thing has been reported by my squadmates.
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Karnak on September 07, 2003, 01:07:04 AM
Cannons have explosive rounds.  The explosives can damage you if you are close enough.  That is why you can kill somebody with cannonfire while vulching when you missed and only hit the runway.  The other night I killed a P-38L and an N1K2-J by doing a sort of S shaped hit pattern on the runway between them with my Mossie's cannons.  Of course I meant to hit them directly, but at low speed the Mossie has poor lateral stability.

You can test this quite easily offline on the target drones.  Get real close with a cannon armed aircraft and hit the drone.  Back to the tower you go.
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 07, 2003, 01:08:56 AM
Or taxi up a 30mm equipped Bf109G close to a hangar, open fire and youll find out real good. :)
Title: I don't think so...
Post by: kbman on September 07, 2003, 01:12:19 AM
You can't shoot yourself...period. Something else was going on that you either failed to see or understand.

kbman
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Karnak on September 07, 2003, 01:26:23 AM
Try it kbman.
Title: Re: I don't think so...
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 07, 2003, 01:39:47 AM
Quote
Originally posted by kbman
You can't shoot yourself...period. Something else was going on that you either failed to see or understand.

kbman


Yes you can take a 109 and taxi up to a hangar, fire the 30mm and youll kill yourself.
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Mathman on September 07, 2003, 02:12:21 AM
Kill stealing happens.  Sometimes on purpose.  Sometimes it is an accident.  

If I ever kill steal, it is usually an accident unless at least one of the following conditions apply:

1.  You have stolen a kill from me

2.  You are an asinine tard on country channel

3.  You whine about kill stealing on channel 1, 2, 3 (or any channel i happen to be tuned to) or the bbs

4.  You are in my squad
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Roscoroo on September 07, 2003, 02:29:59 AM
Quote
Originally posted by MetaTron
Well your wrong. I fired from a steady 5ft with hispanos and for every hit sprite I put into my target I took a hit. Nothing else could have shot me. The same thing has been reported by my squadmates.


yes it can when the plane blows up /falls apart right infront of ya and your right on them ... the plane slows and you collide with it also the lag/ latencey  can take effect also . its also know as a mid air collision .... get over it it happens...

ps i want those 4000 kills back ive had stolen .... :D
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Mini D on September 07, 2003, 09:38:43 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
Try it kbman.
That's the blast radius from an HE round.  You'd get the same thing shooting any HE round.

You aren't shooting yourself... you're shooting a building.  Last I saw, there weren't alot of buildings floating around that randomely popped in front of you.

If you're "shooting yourself" while flying, it's most likely that another friendly plane was going after the same target and your aircraft is overlapping enough for k/s to take effect, but not so you'd visually notice it.

MiniD
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Cobra412 on September 07, 2003, 11:11:29 AM
You can damage your own aircraft with your own rounds.  It's happenend to me a few times.  Making strafing runs on armor and I forget not to pull the both fire button and my mini gun rounds hit me.  Last night I took out my own radiator doing that.
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Mini D on September 07, 2003, 11:20:50 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Cobra412
You can damage your own aircraft with your own rounds.  It's happenend to me a few times.  Making strafing runs on armor and I forget not to pull the both fire button and my mini gun rounds hit me.  Last night I took out my own radiator doing that.
LOL! you do know that the armor can shoot back.. right?

MiniD
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: Cobra412 on September 07, 2003, 11:39:05 AM
noooooo can it Mini D?:confused:
Title: Kill Stealling
Post by: AKIron on September 07, 2003, 11:47:40 AM
Few enjoy having their kills stolen but you only encourage this sort of activity by *****ing about it.