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Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Citabria on September 06, 2003, 12:45:09 AM
wanted to post a pic of new MA I am building (just the map of it)

wondering if anyone has web space for 334kb I could email them the picture.
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Roscoroo on September 06, 2003, 01:12:45 AM
http://www.villagephotos.com/index.asp (http://www.villagephotos.com/index.asp)


here ya go Fester  it has a 5 mb bandwith  but it should be enough if not ... ive got room on my website to host

Roscoroo@hotmail.com     if the village site doesnt work for ya
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Flossy on September 06, 2003, 03:17:22 AM
I have space if you need it - ah@flossy.co.uk  :)
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Swoop on September 06, 2003, 07:16:08 AM
or me, got plenty of room.  raf1swoop@yahoo.co.uk

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Ghosth on September 06, 2003, 07:50:33 AM
Also glad to help out if needed.

Just email me billj69@btinet.net
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: nopoop on September 06, 2003, 11:22:44 AM
Ok, ok get it uploaded..

Come on
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Citabria on September 06, 2003, 12:05:40 PM
yeah too large file for the village site
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Creamo on September 06, 2003, 12:09:49 PM
Lol, and being able to shoot down pixel players garners so much respect.

No offence Clit, but damn it's ironic. :)

Some people are good at the obvious, some excel through practise.
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Citabria on September 06, 2003, 12:15:29 PM
sent a pic to everyone that posted an email thx all :)
whoever posts it first is all thats needed :)
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Flossy on September 06, 2003, 12:23:16 PM
OK here it is:
(http://www.flos.clara.net/storage/Festermap.gif)
:)
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Roscoroo(work) on September 06, 2003, 12:23:38 PM
darn no image found .... after you sign up there  besure you upload so the image is for public display .  (not private )

upload pic .... then open the pic  scroll down and you will see three urls  

one for bullitin boards  {img  http festers map img }
one for a url type link    {the normal http//festers map.8277364}
and for auction message boards  {this one make the pic really small}

i use the second one for urls and insert into the img button up there ....

it took me a few times to figure it out to ...

Edit.... it must have been bigger the 1 mb too .... it missed my mail box ...
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: SOB on September 06, 2003, 12:40:59 PM
Looks like Trinity without the vehicle bases in the middle.  What am I missing?


SOB
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Citabria on September 06, 2003, 12:44:37 PM
the only thing not show in the map is the Carrier groups which each country will have 1 or 2 on each flank depending on field limits.


the center Base will be owned most likely by the southeast country since that side gets gangbanged often in most other maps. it is a 10k base right in the center for everyone to fight over.

only other really high bases are about two 6-7k fields behind HQ



gv bases  for gv war has 8 gv bases on each side for a constant gv war that is a few miles separated from the airfields though still in reach by them after a short flight from some airfields

am going to proceed with more detailed elevation bitmaps and colage them together to create a good rolling terrain look tht is functional and looks good


comments and suggestions and what to change what to keep would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: SOB on September 06, 2003, 01:01:31 PM
Having another look at it...are the airfields closer to each other?


SOB
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Creamo on September 06, 2003, 01:01:46 PM
The Poop Map?
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Citabria on September 06, 2003, 01:04:56 PM
yeah creamo perfect title for it

agreed SOB, wasnt intentional but when I started designing this map it was with three equal land masses for each country and setting it up that way makes it similar.

hopefully the difference with this MA will be that the front is very narrow with heavy action in the center,

the sides of each country are accesible by carrier attack, GV attack and a narrow run of airfields along each coast.

I've been trying to figure out why in the current MA's 512 size there can be 200 people online and no fighting.

the conclusion I've reached so far is that there is just too many bases too far apart.


if anything this map might have even fewer bases than currently shown.
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Citabria on September 06, 2003, 01:10:42 PM
SOB the airfield distances are the same as mindanao in most places, its hard to tell because there is no grid map on the pic.

12 miles apart for quite a few but average abotu 20 miles apart
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Creamo on September 06, 2003, 01:11:01 PM
Well below the "V" it has a smiling gorrilla with a pug nose, so run with a new name.
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: SOB on September 06, 2003, 01:19:02 PM
I don't know about the no fights in the current maps thing, but CVs always mean a good fight...so any maps with CVs and a lot of bases by shore is a good thing in my book.
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: SOB on September 06, 2003, 01:38:42 PM
That'd certainly be original and make for some interesting CV battles, as CV groups navigate the rivers and inevitably cross paths.

(http://www.matthoffman.us/dl/Festermap.gif)
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Citabria on September 06, 2003, 01:39:58 PM
think sob

why are the fights so good by Carriers hanging a few miles off shore?
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: mia389 on September 06, 2003, 01:43:23 PM
Sweet love the idea of the river cutting the map up.
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Furball on September 06, 2003, 01:51:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by mia389
Sweet love the idea of the river cutting the map up.


its turning into pizza without the puke colour and high middle
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Roscoroo(work) on September 06, 2003, 01:57:41 PM
if you cut it up with a wide cv capable "river "  is there gonna be offset gv spawn points on each side of it ??? and instead of one field on the center isle  ... you place 3  air bases .
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Citabria on September 06, 2003, 02:11:09 PM
dunno bout the cv in the center idea, maybe use that on the next map :)

it just looks to much like pizza that way...


hell I think if I did that river thing I would call this the G-string map
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: SOB on September 06, 2003, 02:11:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Citabria
think sob

why are the fights so good by Carriers hanging a few miles off shore?


Well, it could be that...or it could be that once the carrier is in a position to attack a field, several pile-its up from it and prompt a responce from the other team.  I honestly don't know if it's either, both, or neither of those things that make it a good fight.


SOB
Title: G-String?
Post by: MwXX on September 06, 2003, 02:21:35 PM
All I see is a G-String....


squint if you have too....looks like a chic sitting there? does it not?


I LIKE IT!!!!!:D
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: SunKing on September 06, 2003, 02:30:47 PM
The Buttocks map ..... I like the river Idea .. needs more.
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Eagler on September 06, 2003, 02:35:40 PM
looks like the shrink sneezed on his ink blot test :)

(http://psychology.okstate.edu/museum/inkeyes.JPG)
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Kweassa on September 06, 2003, 03:14:43 PM
Actually, I think it looks like the southern parts of England :o
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: B17Skull12 on September 06, 2003, 04:03:42 PM
very nice fester:)
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Replicant on September 06, 2003, 05:08:27 PM
Flux capacitor map!! ;)
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Yorba on September 06, 2003, 06:12:03 PM
I like the idea of narrow waterways that will support cv's leading to the center of the map...I can see now playing chicken with cv groups as the guns all fire at each other...if narrow waterways make the bases too close from the base, simply move the airfields back a couple miles.  This will help the lvt's also.

A wish of mine would be a little more higher alt terrain.  The higher alt brings in a whole new field of play for some plane types, which I feel just makes things more interesting.  Just got gangbanged by 5 la7's and sick of it? hey go grab a p51b at the higher terrain.   Just my ideas =)
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Twist on September 06, 2003, 07:00:22 PM
Rivers a great idea, PT runs on a base in WW2online were a hoot.

I hope there is a dedicated area for furballers? You know, 5k hardened bases 10 miles apart with super winds or killer 88mm at 10k.

Just a thought.
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: SlapShot on September 07, 2003, 09:17:24 AM
"THE THONG"
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: lazs2 on September 07, 2003, 09:30:22 AM
I don't care what you call it.... I like it if the field spacing is as you say...  Oh... seems like the two bottom countries can't attack each other with cv's.
lazs
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: AtmkRstr on September 07, 2003, 10:18:21 AM
I like the 2 narrow strands of bases on the coastline and just inland of each front. Nice narrow fronts make for good gameplay imo.  There's also the wider 2 or 3 wide front near the center of the map for variety.  It looks promising.
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Manedew on September 07, 2003, 11:06:57 AM
you rock you airbatic dweeb :)
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: SKurj on September 07, 2003, 02:02:07 PM
Looks good,

My only thought...


Narrow fronts may seem to give good gameplay but....

Usually they just end up causing a stalemate.  Just a huge furball, that only the team with the biggest numbers can push through and even then it takes luck...

Narrow fronts..? may as well make it a 256x256 map...
Seriously..



SKurj
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: acepilot2 on September 07, 2003, 03:23:26 PM
I actually thought it was supposed to be southern england lol, just a terrible translation.
Title: A suggestion
Post by: Drunky on September 07, 2003, 04:36:31 PM
Fester,

Very good start on the map!

I want to suggest something to help with the cv's.  Include a lake in the center of each homeland with rivers to various points.  Perhaps two or three ports can be located in these lakes.

Just for fun I included also an airfield in the center of each lake to help defend the ports.

If a part of a map is being overrun then a sneaking cv can come up from behind the conquers and re-take a base or two stealthily.  Or just help to defend a base under attack.

Also imagine sneaking a cv into an enemy lake :)

Anyway, pictures are worth more than words, so here ya go...

(http://www.cox-internet.com/drunky/Festermap.jpg)
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Hooligan on September 07, 2003, 05:10:36 PM
Looks promising, particularly after the addition of water-features.

Hooligan
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Gixer on September 07, 2003, 05:16:43 PM
Fester on taking the time to build a map and looking for feedback from the group.

Drunky, I really like the idea of the centre lakes and think it's a good addition. As it's something different to any other map. Be interesting to see how the gameplay/strat would evolve with having those lakes. That's if they can be fit into the map with sufficent size to be made useful for CV's.

Plus it makes the map look totally different from Eternity or Pizza. Or the south west  of England for that matter. LOL



...-Gixer
~Hells Angels~
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: RedDg on September 07, 2003, 05:40:21 PM
Ack !  Starting to look like the cells are dividing !!

lol the "Ameoba" Map
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: acepilot2 on September 07, 2003, 07:11:36 PM
Quote
Ack ! Starting to look like the cells are dividing !!
lol the "Ameoba" Map



ROFL
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Citabria on September 07, 2003, 08:18:19 PM
im not gonna use the cv stuff in the center, I would but Ive already finished the elevation map before and it was a lot of work getting it to look good but when I build another MA map it will be focused on CV wars entirely with islands close together and many many carrier groups.
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 08, 2003, 02:04:05 PM
looks pretty nice Fester I have one suggestion though.  How about adding a few more cv's so we can get some more of that cv battle going on without needing another map dedicated to it?  Maybe 4-5 per side per water body?  Would be interesting to combine fleets and have a serious battle or two.
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Citabria on September 08, 2003, 02:34:58 PM
its limited by total field numbers on the carriers,

without cv's or ports each country has 72 fields (1 country has the 10K a1 field in the center for 73)

so the limit is 255 total bases (85 per country) so I can have a maximum of 6 carriers per side (3 per water body) but supposedly there is a 111 boat limit on carrier ships and 6 fleets per side puts the total number of ships at 108. if its possible to delete the useless litle escort ships im going to do so just because I hate them so my cv groups would be two battleships and a carrier and no useless dweeb ships. dunno if htc will allow this variation or not they seem pretty strict on MA field layout standards.


I'm planning for each body of water and each country to have 1 carrier group 4 bases back on each shoreline and the two other carrier groups in reserve a ways further back from the front so they arive at the action at different times. one or both of these carriers ports is going to have a spawn point from a hard to capture friendly base right next to its town so that that country will have a carrier throughout most of the war right up till a reset if they are the loosing side. but ive not decided yet on that its still being planned out.

the entire maps elevation mapping is finished and the entire southeastern country has all its bases (except cv/ports) and strat facilities installed. details like roads trains convoys have not been added yet.

I would like to use mindanao's texture maps for the terrain if there available because I want to have this map submitted to HTC as soon as possible and designing new texture maps that look anywhere as good as mindanao's takes a lot of time on top of all the other time needed to design and build the terrain.

if this map works good I'm going to build an Island/carrier map with maximum number of carriers in it which would mean deleting most of the little boats again but thats a good thing :)
Title: Need help posting pic of new Main Arena
Post by: Citabria on September 10, 2003, 02:31:32 PM
ARGH have to wait till AH2 because the terrain system is changing with it. HTC said be best to get it planned out and wait for new terrain editor system.


was good practice so far though. I'm tempted to finish it quickly without any gv spawns convoys or trains and just toss it to HTC for the MA as a test of the design layout of the terrain until ah2 is out

but the Terrain editor is tedious but enjoyable to use so far cant wait for the changes in AH2 to arive so I can build some more terrains :)