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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ike 2K# on September 06, 2003, 02:19:37 PM
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"USA is LAGGING in BROADBAND TECHNOLOGY"
I read about it on Business week. Japs can deliver 20Mbps/sec with its broadband connection for just $25. Almost 100% of homes/appartments in S. Korea are connected hi-speed internet.
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WOW
i pay about 10$ for 1mb down and 512 up :eek:
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oh great, EURO is in competition too???
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Do you pay more than that Ike?:confused:
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$45/mo for ~1.6MB cable. That's download...upload is considerably less. The price is actually $55/mo, since if I didn't have cable tv it'd be $10 more, and my basic cable is $10/mo.
SOB
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I feel that i must say that i get it at that price because i was the first in my town to get bradband via cable and i get very good prices.
Whenever they introduce a new speed i also get that to test for the same amount for about a month. After that month is finished i go back to the middle choise of speed (wich would by then have jumped up a place) and pay the same amount.
Im kinda like a very happy testing person for them, but i have to give em an email every week with a report of how things are going.
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59 euros a month for 1m/512k ADSL...
Could be cheaper and could be way more expensive.
The price came down just this month :D
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I can say that Sweden rules when it comes to cheap broadband connections...
for 40 euros an month you can get 8 mbit ADSL connection... if you live within 600 meters from the "telephone basestation" then you get up to 26 mbit for the same price...
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Originally posted by Maniac
I can say that Sweden rules when it comes to cheap broadband connections...
for 40 euros an month you can get 8 mbit ADSL connection... if you live within 600 meters from the "telephone basestation" then you get up to 26 mbit for the same price...
Stupid finnish goverment went with the born-to-be-dead digital TV....
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We are getting the same crap Fishu..... A ton o money out the window if you ask me
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I think most of the US providers limit speed and still charge alot because thats what the market will bear. My cousin is a service tech for bell south and he told me thier ADSL is capable 6+ Mb. Back a year ago when I had it I was limited to 1.5 and payed $55 a month for it.
I now have cable and pay about $80 for 2Mb and digital cable.
Here in the states there are still ALOT of areas where highspeed isn't available. Hell there are still lots of areas where phones aren't available!
I imagine if we were all packed together on some island like a bunch or sardines, it would be easier/cheaper to implement.
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TIPGuy,
Problem is: a) the bandwidth costs for the ISP's, b) theres limited amounts of it.
The more ISP uses the bandwidth, the more it has to pay to routing services etc. whatever things there are to pay for and then again they usually have a limited share of the bandwidth, which again would cause slow connections for the users. (unless ISP increase the bandwidth, which again costs huge sums of $$$)
and of course they need to get profit.. eitherways, without them making profit, alot of cable/dsl users would be still using modems or something like ISDN's, because ISP's would lack the interest to upgrade their technology in the lack of money :eek:
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Good point. I was quite happy paying $55 a month for my DSL as it was a HUGE improvment over dialup. Cable is a noticeable improvment over DSL and it is a bit cheaper, so I'm still happy.
For what little bit of gaming and surfing I do it works great. I don't download alot of big files, so I don't really need a 6Mb+ connection.
I grew up using prodigy on a 1200baud modem, so I'm not totally spoiled by all the latest highspeed stuff. Though I wouldn't complain if it was faster/cheaper.
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Speed is not the most important thing for me either, controlling costs and beeing able to get rid of the phoneline was.
Speed is just a bonus
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For me, very good quality and reliable connections are the primary considerations aside a sufficient speed (which at the moment is 1m ;))
Since alot of my traffic goes to outside Finland, mostly to europe and US, the ISP must be one with good routers to europe and US.
For that, I'm not quite confident with the cable modems, which with you're pretty much gambling whether you get a good one or bad one - as the cable modem ISP's and the areas can vary alot in the quality of connection.
So an ADSL, which is available aside a cable modem, is my choice..
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$45/mo for 1.6 Mb cable here...its great for any tcp connection...but absalutly **** for udp...
naturally us and canada are lagging to the japanese...were lagging behind in EVERYTHING to tha japanese
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SOB, you're paying 10 (or 20 if you count the 10 bucks you're saving on your internet bill by subscribing to caTV) for cable? What company?
I'm paying 25 a month for my 512 down 128 up connection, plus another 10 for not having cable TV service. I would get basic cable, but that tacks another 33 bucks a month onto my bill.
On top of this, my connection goes down about once a day. I've had 3 service techs come out in about 2 weeks. Each time, it's a problem on their end.
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I'd guess me and SOB have the same deal (comcast). my speed is great though. (most of those benchmark sights rate me at about 10% over expected t1 line speed).
I got very lucky though, when the guy came to hook me up I had an unexpected day off.
so I didn't need him to do the installing in my pc, just hook up the wires, and give my the card and info.
he'd never done the pc part of the install before (was going to have them talk him through it by phone) and I was his last call for that day.
so I installed the card, drivers etc.. myself and showed him how. that also finished him up early and he didn't want another call, so he checks the lines from my house, he says they are within tollorance but just barely, so he runs all new wire from my wall-jack to the wires thy just strung 2 weeks before.
anyway combine that with very few other users in my area and I get a pretty good deal.
btw- maybe the reason they can do it cheaper in japan is that the people are a lot closer together and they don't have to run/maintain as many feet of cable per customer.
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Originally posted by Fishu
Stupid finnish goverment went with the born-to-be-dead digital TV....
We are the only 1st world country that havent switch from analouge TV to digital in full scale.
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It's the laws surrounding telecommunications.... still feeling the waves of the govement sanctioned AT&T monopoly ... many laws are still in place that keep these services from becomeing more wide spreade ... also .. japan is much more densely populated .... Expect the US the be behind in broadband for some time to come.
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
I'd guess me and SOB have the same deal (comcast). my speed is great though. (most of those benchmark sights rate me at about 10% over expected t1 line speed).
Yep, definitely can't bag on the speed too much. I do miss the old days of AT&T using @Home though. No bandwidth cap, and 450+KB/sec downloads! Plus it was only $40/mo. Not bad for a 3.6Mb connection. :)
Comcast raised the cap a bit from what AT&T had it set at (after @Home flopped), but my Internet connection goes down at least 5 times a month now. That rarely happened with AT&T with their network or with @Home's network.
Tarmac...I'm talking basic basic cable. I have the local broadcast channels, public access, cspan, all the home shopping channels, Hallmark and the "Give us Money" network (TBN), and for some reason E! and Discovery. Thank god for the discovery channel. Basically, the way they have it set up, I'd be paying $55 whether I have the basic cable or not. I haven't quite figured out what they're up to. Hell, even if I still had the dish, I'd make 'em come out and install the basic cable even though I'd never watch it.
SOB
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I hear comcast is soon going to have the service where your phone can go through the cable tv line instead of regular phone lines(haven't heard a exact time frame though, just soon). it's be interesting to see if service gets any better with qwest when they have to compete with comcast for my phone dollar.
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yes and who designed those DSL circuits for Korea? Who Developed that technolegy in the first place?
I can tell you because I happen to have a friend who did just that.
Made 125k a year designing DSL & Broadband, first in US, then canada, etc.
He was halfway round the world when they brought in some people from India to train. Now he's back at school while some sweatbox in India cranks out the same work for 1/8 the $$
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like I care. I don't even have Internet at home :P
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Well right now im cutting our companys "data communication" costs with 2/3, we have offices at 23 different locations in Sweden and up till now we had to use "point to point" rented "data communication" lines,
We paid aprox 14 000 $ an month totally for connecting all our offices to eachother.
Now with the new ADSL/VPN solution wich i am implenting we are gonna have an total monthly cost of 2 300 $ an month.... And the performance we gain is djust incredible, like 10 times the speed of the old system...
And the time we save when we support our "clients" (about 170 workstations) also is great, we can remote controll the computers and it really feels like your sitting at the remote controlled computer if you have an good conx...
Yes my boss likes me very very much ;)
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After an bit of thinking i realized i save more than 2/3 with the ADSL/VPN solution...
I may be great at computers but i suck at math :D
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US$34 per month 6Mbps/512 ADSL (no bandwidth cap, unlimited access) - about a month a go my ISP upgraded pretty much everyone I know on the ISP from 3Mbps to 6Mbps for free (probably so they can keep charging us the top price - you can get 3Mbps/256 now for about US$12 less - $22). There's no cable on my Island, so I dunno how much that costs.