Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: midnight Target on September 09, 2003, 02:38:31 PM
-
They (conservatives) love America like a child loves his mommy. And Mommy can do no wrong. We (liberals) love America like an adult loves someone—recognizing our mate might have some faults and taking the good with the bad and always working to appreciate what’s there and being critical of what’s wrong and trying to help make it better. - Al Franken
Beautiful, just beautiful.
-
Garbage.
-
Liberals love America like a tyrant Nanny loves the children she watches-Knowing they are stupid and that she knows what is best, and insisting that they adhere to the Nannys ideas.
-
I thought it was supposed to be Fair and Balanced.
-
I thought you were supposed to be "one of Those Dems"? (See the Thread "87 billion").
-
Saw a post over at DU where some guy bet some Freepers that they couldn't find a single lie in Al's new book, the bet was for $20 per lie and the cost of the book, no replys yet :)
-
Im pretty sure Al Franken loves you MT for buying his book, and is putting the hundred of thousands of revenues into school programs, and avoiding every Republican tax loophole for the rich.
Puppet.
-
Originally posted by Creamo
Puppet.
Your new sig?
-
Have them disabled.
Al Frankens Lexus dealer loves you though.
-
Originally posted by midnight Target
We (liberals) love America like an adult loves someone—recognizing our mate might have some faults and taking the good with the bad and always ..blah blah blah.
after the 1st, 2nd or 3rd divorce?
-
My God! Go have a beer or something.....
-
Originally posted by midnight Target
They (conservatives) love America like a child loves his mommy. And Mommy can do no wrong. We (liberals) love America like an adult loves someone—recognizing our mate might have some faults and taking the good with the bad and always working to appreciate what’s there and being critical of what’s wrong and trying to help make it better. - Al Franken
Beautiful, just beautiful.
Is that irony, wit, or derision?
-
Looks like witty derision to me. Ironic of you to ask though.
:)
-
Did you buy the hardcopy or the paperback? Leather interior is expensive.
-
Man, it's just a comedic book written (oddly enough) by a comedian. Lighten up people. You liberal tards shouldn't take it so seriously, and you conservative tards shouldn't take the liberal tards taking it so seriously so seriously. Got that? Good, 'cause I'm now lost. :D
SOB
Oh, BTW...I'll probably buy the book. If it's as funny as "Rush Limbaugh...", then it'll be worth it.
-
Chum bait for Midnight for the rest of the year (takes him that long just to read a chapter) ;)
-
Originally posted by Creamo
Did you buy the hardcopy or the paperback? Leather interior is expensive.
Copied it illegally from Kazaa ... as far as you know. :)
-
Gasp SOB, it's the sole source of MT's cleverness of the day. I don't take that flash of brilliance lightly, even though it is just a quote of a retired comedian.
Al Franken is a riot, true, I just wish everyone could download his book off Kazza so he would go broke and go away.
And I'd like to see Rush L. write a book on him. "Al Franken is a bloating Old Hasbeen Comedian with zit pit scars that could eat a Corncob Through a Picket Fence, and I weigh Less".
I'd buy it, in hardcover.
-
Originally posted by Creamo
Gasp SOB, it's the sole source of MT's cleverness of the day. I don't take that flash of brilliance lightly, even though it is just a quote of a retired comedian.
Al Franken is a riot, true, I just wish everyone could download his book off Kazza so he would go broke and go away.
And I'd like to see Rush L. write a book on him. "Al Franken is a bloating Old Hasbeen Comedian with zit pit scars that could eat a Corncob Through a Picket Fence, and I weigh Less".
I'd buy it, in hardcover.
Oh my, that got my old crusty face smiling. :)
Just think, with your writing style, you could replace Airhead if you'd just embrace your inner self. ;)
-
LOL, I like the concept, but if Rush wrote the book, it'd be all about himself. I don't think he'd be able to help it.
SOB
-
Originally posted by midnight Target
They (conservatives) love America like a child loves his mommy. And Mommy can do no wrong. We (liberals) love America like an adult loves someone—recognizing our mate might have some faults and taking the good with the bad and always working to appreciate what’s there and being critical of what’s wrong and trying to help make it better. - Al Franken
Beautiful, just beautiful.
Ahhh my diluted left wing friend...ya see what you don't understand is this....the love for a mother is unconditional and is truly love...the love you practice is dependant on your selfish desires and motives. What you seek is a form of love....one that fits your mood or your cause.
:)
-
Originally posted by Ripsnort
Chum bait for Midnight for the rest of the year (takes him that long just to read a chapter) ;)
And wonderful bait it is too.
No need to rush through the book. Every paragraph is good enough to send the typical conservative into an apopleptic fit.
(notice how I failed to make a personal attack on you in return Ripster? )
-
Originally posted by Rude
Ahhh my diluted left wing friend...
:)
What is he diluted with, and to what ratio?
Al Franken is a riot. I laughed twice in the Stuart Smalley movie...
-
How nice of Al Franken to stereotype people.
Stereotyping is not a particularly nice thing, it fails to give good people credit, and in this case, it is used to degrade people.
Sorry if I fail to see the humor in it.
dago
-
perk al franken:D
-
Just finished watching jon stewart comedy central with special guest....yup. al franken. Im a funny guy and love a funny line but I have to say franken was barely funny and not at all serious.
Still...I guess I can see how you guys love his face. Its ugly in a cute sort of way. Like an ugly puppy.........
and just to placate you real serious types: ann coulter is a dog
-
Originally posted by midnight Target
They (conservatives) love America like a child loves his mommy.
No, I think Franken is off the mark this time. It's less like love and more like an unfettered, dog-like loyalty.
-
Originally posted by Erlkonig
No, I think Franken is off the mark this time. It's less like love and more like an unfettered, dog-like loyalty.
At least *someone* has loyalty. It takes compassion and love to have loyalty. Todays "kids" don't have that, they just like milking the system (due to nurturing by 60's parents)
-
You know, I'm surprised that so many people don't understand the rationale for questioning the current administration closely about our policy in Iraq.
Do you not remember how President Johnson lied to the American public about Vietnam? Not to mention the mismanagement of that war.
Small wonder that the American people and the media are keeping a close watch on what is happening in Iraq now.
The blind loyalty to trust the government in time of war disappeared during the Vietnam war, with good reason. You can wax nostalgically about the unquestioning loyalty displayed by the American public during World War II, but those days are over, and the American public is much more sophisticated nowadays.
Bad things can happen in this country when we don't continue to question and keep an eye on the government. Does the McCarthy witch hunt or the deportation of Japanese Americans to internment camps ring a bell?
People who give their unstinting loyalty to the Bush administration on this board think they're doing the right thing by being patriotic. But think carefully about that. Is it the person who questions authority who cares more about this country, or the person who places blind trust into the administration?
-
liberals love America like a baby loves a tit.
lazs
-
The blind loyalty to trust the government in time of war disappeared during the Vietnam war, with good reason.
====
vietnam war was lost with a tremendous cost in human life. I have always considered the anti war movement in this country paramount to providing aid and comfort to the enemy.
I would have preferred a successful conclusion.
-
Originally posted by lazs2
liberals love America like a baby loves a tit.
lazs
hehe, game over, lazs wins
-
vietnam war was lost with a tremendous cost in human life. I have always considered the anti war movement in this country paramount to providing aid and comfort to the enemy.
I would have preferred a successful conclusion.
I personally would have preferred a political solution in the late 1940s or 1950s that would have prevented that tragic war entirely. Whether it was ever "winnable" is questionable. The people in the South didn't seem to care all that much, and the people in the North would have looked upon US troops as occupiers and not liberators, so what exactly would a victory have meant? Tenuous control of the cities and firebases in the North as well as the South, with occupation forces still getting killed today by the handful?
What would a win have accomplished in Vietnam? Democracy? Would you (or any American) accept a democracy under the leadership of a corrupt tyrant like Ngo Dihn Diem or Nguyen Van Thieu? Perhaps if we had offered the Vietnamese people an option other than communism or a puppet dictatorship there might have been some serious interest in actually achieving a victory by the people of country itself, not to mention at home. All the war protestors did was point out the obvious.
Charon
-
Originally posted by banana
You know, I'm surprised that so many people don't understand the rationale for questioning the current administration closely about our policy in Iraq.
Do you not remember how President Johnson lied to the American public about Vietnam? Not to mention the mismanagement of that war.
Small wonder that the American people and the media are keeping a close watch on what is happening in Iraq now.
The blind loyalty to trust the government in time of war disappeared during the Vietnam war, with good reason. You can wax nostalgically about the unquestioning loyalty displayed by the American public during World War II, but those days are over, and the American public is much more sophisticated nowadays.
Bad things can happen in this country when we don't continue to question and keep an eye on the government. Does the McCarthy witch hunt or the deportation of Japanese Americans to internment camps ring a bell?
People who give their unstinting loyalty to the Bush administration on this board think they're doing the right thing by being patriotic. But think carefully about that. Is it the person who questions authority who cares more about this country, or the person who places blind trust into the administration?
All of the talk regarding Bush and the war has nothing to do with accountability but rather the quest to return to power by the Democrats.
You make an assumption that those who support Bush make no effort to hold him accountable...you're mistaken. He will be held accountable. His perspective is much more informed than any of ours, yet you guys pretend to have all the answers.
It's laughable to to think that such an undertaking would have concluded or made significant progress in four months....most of this anti-Bush speak is simply motivated by the severe dislike of Bush by Democrats and the adjoining desire to get back the power they lost.
-
Originally posted by Rude
All of the talk regarding Bush and the war has nothing to do with accountability but rather the quest to return to power by the Democrats.
You make an assumption that those who support Bush make no effort to hold him accountable...you're mistaken. He will be held accountable. His perspective is much more informed than any of ours, yet you guys pretend to have all the answers.
It's laughable to to think that such an undertaking would have concluded or made significant progress in four months....most of this anti-Bush speak is simply motivated by the severe dislike of Bush by Democrats and the adjoining desire to get back the power they lost.
[size=8]SHACK![/SIZE]
-
Originally posted by lazs2
liberals love America like a baby loves a tit.
lazs
Oh please.
"Conservatives love America like a 4 year old.."
"Nuh uh! Liberals love America like a baby...."
"Oh yeah! Well conservatives are like a fetus...."
" No sir!! Liberals are like a Zygote!! ..."
" Conservatives are like a bunch of wriggling Sperm!!!!"
" I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU TO SAY THAT TO MY FACE!!"
" YOUR MOMMA!!""
:cool:
-
it's over, go home ;)
-
Originally posted by Ripsnort
[size=8]SHACK![/SIZE]
"You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
(http://www.ozcraft.com/scifidu/princess/cast_montoya.jpg)
-
Originally posted by Rude
All of the talk regarding Bush and the war has nothing to do with accountability but rather the quest to return to power by the Democrats.
You make an assumption that those who support Bush make no effort to hold him accountable...you're mistaken. He will be held accountable. His perspective is much more informed than any of ours, yet you guys pretend to have all the answers.
It's laughable to to think that such an undertaking would have concluded or made significant progress in four months....most of this anti-Bush speak is simply motivated by the severe dislike of Bush by Democrats and the adjoining desire to get back the power they lost.
That's a cop out, Rude.
By insiuating an alterior motive, you could say that about anyone who criticizes anything.
Instead of doing that, why not argue against my assertion that to question and criticize the government is the ultimate in patriotism, and is in fact the basis of the freedoms that make America the greatest nation in the world.
Instead, you went for the standard republiclown line, thereby giving Ripsnort, who is often at a loss for real intellectual thought, a chance to throw in his tiresome one word zingers.
*sigh*
I really enjoy debating with you, Rude. But can we agree to debate the real issue, and leave off the campaign sound bites? Please?
BTW, in case you've forgotten, I supported this administration in going to war with Iraq. Furthermore, I support the spending of billions to rebuild Iraq.
-
Instead, you went for the standard republiclown line, thereby giving Ripsnort, who is often at a loss for real intellectual thought, a chance to throw in his tiresome one word zingers.
banana, was the irony intentional?
-
You make an assumption that those who support Bush make no effort to hold him accountable...you're mistaken. He will be held accountable.
[/B]
This is funny. :rolleyes:
....most of this anti-Bush speak is simply motivated by the severe dislike of Bush by Democrats and the adjoining desire to get back the power they lost."
[/B]
You know the same can be said for the Republicans.They will do anything,and believe anything they are told, just to see that a Democrat does not get in office. I fail to see how either party is helping the country.It is really too bad that when you go to vote,it comes down to the lesser of two evils.
The time honored tactic of attacking someone instead of discussing an issue,really makes people look stupid.It tends to sway people to the other side of the fence.People who think anyway, and don't just take their particular party line as gospel.
What if we made the governing bodies evenly split.No one would have a majority, and would have to reach a compromise on the issues, that was fair to most and not just one group or interest.
Senate,House ect. 1/3 to Independents,Democrats,Republicans.No this makes too much sense. :D
Frodo
-
Originally posted by Frodo
What if we made the governing bodies evenly split.No one would have a majority, and would have to reach a compromise on the issues, that was fair to most and not just one group or interest.
Senate,House ect. 1/3 to Independents,Democrats,Republicans.No this makes too much sense. :D
Frodo
Spoken like a member of a party that's losing power maybe for keeps. You're not a democrat are ya?
-
The time honored tactic of attacking someone instead of discussing an issue,really makes people look stupid.It tends to sway people to the other side of the fence.People who think anyway, and don't just take their particular party line as gospel.
I guess you missed this part above. :rolleyes:
I guess I would classify myself as independent, since it seems important to you.Hope that doesn't dissapoint you.:rolleyes:
Frodo
-
Ah, hoping to gain some authority under the guise of fairness eh? Can't blame ya for tryin'.
-
Originally posted by midnight Target
Oh please.
"Conservatives love America like a 4 year old.."
"Nuh uh! Liberals love America like a baby...."
"Oh yeah! Well conservatives are like a fetus...."
" No sir!! Liberals are like a Zygote!! ..."
" Conservatives are like a bunch of wriggling Sperm!!!!"
" I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU TO SAY THAT TO MY FACE!!"
" YOUR MOMMA!!""
:cool:
So the baby/tit reference went completely over your head?
In any event, in your attempt to plant the flag of Liberals on the moral high ground, dont confuse support for Bush with blind faith in the administration.
I cant speak for everyone, but in my case, I support Bush because I agree with most of what hes doing, not because Im 'patriotic.' Im plenty patriotic and disagreed with alot of the things Clinton did.
From the viewpoint of the average citizen who actually pays attention to issues and policy, partisanship has very little to do with it - there is no blind faith in one party or the other, one ideology or the other, but rather agreement or disagreement on the decisions made by the President, Congress, and the Supreme Court.
Had Clinton done everything Bush did and Bush everything Clinton did, my support would be reversed.
-
Had Clinton done everything Bush did and Bush everything Clinton did, my support would be reversed.
So would mine.
-
Originally posted by banana
That's a cop out, Rude.
By insiuating an alterior motive, you could say that about anyone who criticizes anything.
Instead of doing that, why not argue against my assertion that to question and criticize the government is the ultimate in patriotism, and is in fact the basis of the freedoms that make America the greatest nation in the world.
Instead, you went for the standard republiclown line, thereby giving Ripsnort, who is often at a loss for real intellectual thought, a chance to throw in his tiresome one word zingers.
*sigh*
I really enjoy debating with you, Rude. But can we agree to debate the real issue, and leave off the campaign sound bites? Please?
BTW, in case you've forgotten, I supported this administration in going to war with Iraq. Furthermore, I support the spending of billions to rebuild Iraq.
I agree with you entirely....the right of protest and free speech is cornerstone to who we are in this country.
Problem I have, is dishonesty.(not you, so calm down):)
I'm not on you or anyone for not liking Bush....believing he is incompetent and bad for our nation....wanting a new president or even believing he only serves his wealthy friends and hates everyone else. Just be honest.
I have not seen nor heard a clear and concise solution offered up by anyone who has criticized Bush....sure, they say "we shouldn't have gone in the first place". See what I mean?
Bottom line for me....Bush will stand up like a man and take his hits....he has done what he felt was necessary to protect this countries interest, it's citizenship and it's allies. If the American people are convinced he has failed or that someone new will do better, then he will be gone. Time will prove however, that he was honest in his intentions and was correct regarding Iraq, the Middle East and Osama Bin Ladin.
I don't need Bush to tell me how to respond to what was threatened against us openly for years and finally executed throughout the 90's while a gutless wonder sat in the Whitehouse contemplating his legacy and finally topped by the events of 9/11.
Too many of you have forgotten 9/11....God help us if they ever get a nuke....all the feel good politics practiced at the UN and allies in Europe and the rest of what so many believe is the proper course to take, will not help us in the least. They will kill as many of us as possible and in my opinion, anyone who believes they won't, is kidding themselves.
I'm done....promised myself I would'nt get too deep in these Oclub thingies.:)
-
I'm done....promised myself I would'nt get too deep in these Oclub thingies.
Aw, c'mon, Rude. These little discussions are good for the metabolism. :)
-
Originally posted by Yeager
vietnam war was lost with a tremendous cost in human life. I have always considered the anti war movement in this country paramount to providing aid and comfort to the enemy.
The war critics embolden the enemy, convincing them that victory lies in defeat of America in Iraq. But driving the terrorists to fight us in Iraq is exactly what we want. Better to have Americans killed in Iraq than in America.
-
The first person that gets a tattoo of the American Flag (on their male member) wins the, "I Love America More" contest. ;)
Please send all photos to Skuzzy for final judging. (I wonder if size matters? :confused: )
-
All 50 stars? :eek: