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Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: wplantagenet on September 10, 2003, 12:06:22 PM
I want my Goon's cockpit to look like this . . .



(http://lib1.store.vip.sc5.yahoo.com/lib/fsc/FS2004-DC3-1.jpg)






WP
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Rutilant on September 10, 2003, 12:15:32 PM
Wow.. that weather kicks ass!
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Furball on September 10, 2003, 12:17:28 PM
want it to climb at 4k per minute too? or is that 400 feet?
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Rutilant on September 10, 2003, 12:20:31 PM
LOL, i notices that too, Furby, i just didnt wanna bring it up.
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Furball on September 10, 2003, 12:23:32 PM
i would also like to know what the 'Vacuum pump' is for.... bit of in-flight entertainment eh?

and also, its climbing at 4k/m with gear down
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Arlo on September 10, 2003, 12:52:56 PM
Why are the drops on the windscreen not moving? Even as slow as 85 ias ... they should be hitting and sliding. ShruG.

Pretty though.
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: wplantagenet on September 10, 2003, 02:37:06 PM
The whole scenario here doesn't really make too much sense. It doesn't follow true for a takeoff, landing approach, or really anything else . . . .

Flaps are up
Gear is down
Speed is pretty low, not too much above stall speed for having no flaps extended.
Fuel is at Max.
Altitude (MSL) is 2,660ft. We can't tell what AGL is exactly.
Unless I'm in error, the Climb-Rate scale is in hundreds of feet.  The climb rate on the DC-3/C-47 was not really measured in the thousands.:rolleyes:

But anyway, I don't think this was supposed to be a specific, realistic situtation -- but just an opportunity for a screenshot on their part. If only they thought like we did . . .;)

And yes, MS FS 2004 has some seriously great weather. As far as the windscreen spots, my first thought was that they were chips in the glass, not rain drops. But now I'm not sure. Given that the "quality" of the rest of the cockpit implies this thing was just pulled out of the moth-ball hangar, I'm going to stick with the chip-theory.

BUT HEY! Doesn't this look cool!? I want to see this kind of detail in my aircraft. Okay, maybe you goon-phobics can't appreciate this, but imagine this kind of photo-real detail in all the other aircraft!


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Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Samiam on September 10, 2003, 02:44:22 PM
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Originally posted by Arlo
Why are the drops on the windscreen not moving? Even as slow as 85 ias ... they should be hitting and sliding. ShruG.

Pretty though.



Because water drops won't slide in a still image?

Close inspection shows that the mass of the water in the drops is at the top and they are shaped as if there is upward pressure. It's pretty impressive, actually.
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: BenDover on September 10, 2003, 03:11:02 PM
I don't like it.
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: DiabloTX on September 10, 2003, 04:21:44 PM
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Originally posted by Samiam
Because water drops won't slide in a still image?

Close inspection shows that the mass of the water in the drops is at the top and they are shaped as if there is upward pressure. It's pretty impressive, actually.


Don't pay no mind to Arlo.  He's the kind of guy who'd ***** if he was given a million dollars in one-dollar bills.  :D
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Purzel on September 11, 2003, 01:27:48 AM
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Originally posted by Furball
want it to climb at 4k per minute too? or is that 400 feet?


That is err, 4 (in words: four) feet per minute.

:p
Title: Rain
Post by: Uncle on September 11, 2003, 02:55:03 AM
I ride a motorbike and when it's raining and at around the equivalent of 85 IAS the raindrops hardly move unless I move my head sideways or use my gloves. They're persistent little buggers;)
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Bronson on September 11, 2003, 05:07:20 AM
What you all on about!?

Its looks great!
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Scootter on September 11, 2003, 09:36:31 AM
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Originally posted by Furball
i would also like to know what the 'Vacuum pump' is for.... bit of in-flight entertainment eh?

and also, its climbing at 4k/m with gear down



What do you think powers some of the  flight instruments?
 OR  in response to your question, the Vacuum pump drives the attitude indicator (artificial horizon), it may also power the DG on older aircraft, however today these are elect.

you many not use it for anything else

;)
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Scootter on September 11, 2003, 09:39:21 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Arlo
Why are the drops on the windscreen not moving? Even as slow as 85 ias ... they should be hitting and sliding. ShruG.

Pretty though.



look up "boundry layer air flow"

airflow on a surface is much lower then the surface is moving ( ever had rain stand still on the hood of your car at speed? I have even seen it move forward )
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Drunky on September 11, 2003, 10:34:11 AM
Yes, I absolutely want "Microsoft Flight Simulator" on my C-47 cockpit :p
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Arlo on September 11, 2003, 05:11:47 PM
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Originally posted by Scootter
look up "boundry layer air flow"

airflow on a surface is much lower then the surface is moving ( ever had rain stand still on the hood of your car at speed? I have even seen it move forward )


*ShruG* Ok ... I guess seeing droplets stream across a cockpit windscreen inflight was all my imagination.  And guys ... don't have a cow thinking I wasn't impressed. Read what I wrote all the way to the end. ;) :D
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Kevin14 on September 11, 2003, 07:26:40 PM
Ugh, it is incredibly high detail in the cockpit, but the terrain and clouds aren't all that special :(
Title: I'd rather have the Navy R4D
Post by: LtMagee on September 11, 2003, 07:45:42 PM
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Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Mugzeee on September 11, 2003, 08:00:23 PM
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Originally posted by BenDover
I don't like it.

Its a good thing Ben.
Cause HTC wont even come close to MS Flight Sim2004's weather effects.
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: Chairboy on September 11, 2003, 08:09:15 PM
Occasional rain would be cool in AH.  I suspect the war was not put on hold due to weather.
Title: C-47 should look like this . . .
Post by: BenDover on September 11, 2003, 08:56:40 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Occasional rain would be cool in AH.  I suspect the war was not put on hold due to weather.


Operation Sea Lion was mainly called off due to the bad weather that was ahead, and also because of the LWs defeat.

D-day was delayed because of the weather.



Btw, I was on about the 2d cockpits.