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Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Ripsnort on September 15, 2003, 08:18:32 AM
Ahhh, those grapes are sour, aren't they Christiane? ;)

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Amanpour: CNN practiced self-censorship
CNN's top war correspondent, Christiane Amanpour, says that the press muzzled itself during the Iraq war. And, she says CNN "was intimidated" by the Bush administration and Fox News, which "put a climate of fear and self-censorship."
As criticism of the war and its aftermath intensifies, Amanpour joins a chorus of journalists and pundits who charge that the media largely toed the Bush administrationline in covering the war and, by doing so, failed to aggressively question the motives behind the invasion.
On last week's Topic A With Tina Brown on CNBC, Brown, the former Talk magazine editor, asked comedian Al Franken, former Pentagon spokeswoman Torie Clarke and Amanpour if "we in the media, as much as in the administration, drank the Kool-Aid when it came to the war."
Said Amanpour: "I think the press was muzzled, and I think the press self-muzzled. I'm sorry to say, but certainly television and, perhaps, to a certain extent, my station was intimidated by the administration and its foot soldiers at Fox News. And it did, in fact, put a climate of fear and self-censorship, in my view, in terms of the kind of broadcast work we did."
Brown then asked Amanpour if there was any story during the war that she couldn't report.
"It's not a question of couldn't do it, it's a question of tone," Amanpour said. "It's a question of being rigorous. It's really a question of really asking the questions. All of the entire body politic in my view, whether it's the administration, the intelligence, the journalists, whoever, did not ask enough questions, for instance, about weapons of mass destruction. I mean, it looks like this was disinformation at the highest levels."
Clarke called the disinformation charge "categorically untrue" and added, "In my experience, a little over two years at the Pentagon, I never saw them (the media) holding back. I saw them reporting the good, the bad and the in between."
Fox News spokeswoman Irena Briganti said of Amanpour's comments: "Given the choice, it's better to be viewed as a foot soldier for Bush than a spokeswoman for al-Qaeda."
CNN had no comment.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/columnist/mediamix/2003-09-14-media-mix_x.htm
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: ra on September 15, 2003, 08:33:45 AM
Jennefer Eccleston is way hotter than Christiane Amanpour.
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Eagler on September 15, 2003, 08:41:11 AM
the press is PO'ed they couldn't give out GPS coords
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: davidpt40 on September 15, 2003, 08:46:32 AM
Geraldo tried though...
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Virage on September 15, 2003, 09:01:58 AM
In the 80's many rebuked "Those Commie Bastards" ie Russia as not having a free press but one that mimicked whatever the Communists wanted.

Today in the US we have a #1 Cable News service that does the same thing,  parrot the Administration.  But here its called Patriotism.
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Frogm4n on September 15, 2003, 09:06:53 AM
Have you ever been a member of the press Rip? Did you go into iraq, and to get a story. Have you been to a presidential press conference and delt with this administration.
I am going to guess no, and that you actually spent this time building some kind of car hold with wooden panneling and carpets.
Your forget why fox news is #1 though. Liberals do not care to watch any cable news station; we have better things to do then watch two old white men yell at each other.
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: ra on September 15, 2003, 09:09:29 AM
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Originally posted by Virage
In the 80's many rebuked "Those Commie Bastards" ie Russia as not having a free press but one that mimicked whatever the Communists wanted.

Today in the US we have a #1 Cable News service that does the same thing,  parrot the Administration.  But here its called Patriotism.

Your comparison is rather empty.  In the US you are free to watch another network, even a foreign one.  You could have gotten your war reporting from Al Jazeera if you wanted.
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: ra on September 15, 2003, 09:10:34 AM
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Liberals do not care to watch any cable news station; we have better things to do then watch two old white men yell at each other.

Yeah, like watch "West Wing".
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Frogm4n on September 15, 2003, 09:12:26 AM
hell if i know. i personally watch the simpsons and thats about it.
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: midnight Target on September 15, 2003, 09:13:12 AM
Is this the same CNN that admitted to biased coverage in Iraq due to Saddam's intimidation?
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Frogm4n on September 15, 2003, 09:16:38 AM
The big thing about news off of american TV is that it is all for-profit. If a story will not make them profit why air it? Its a pretty sick way of going about reporting news. Its no wonder that fox has its 'journalists' talk about politics the first half of their show and then about hollywood marriages the next. Its like a tabloid news paper complete with the outright lies.
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: ra on September 15, 2003, 09:20:45 AM
Watch BBC.  There you get biased news that's not for profit.
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Ripsnort on September 15, 2003, 09:42:01 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Is this the same CNN that admitted to biased coverage in Iraq due to Saddam's intimidation?


Heh, we'd almost forgot about ol' Peter. ;)
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Cabby44 on September 15, 2003, 09:43:32 AM
Amanpour is a Leftist idiot whose network has been firmly and thoroughly trounced(which has the Lefties in the "Mainstream Media" gnashing their teeth)by Fox News in the Cable Ratings.   She's pissed she is no longer the "Diva" of Cable News "war-correspondents".

When you are in 2nd Place, Christiane, you are supposed to "try harder".  *****ing and moaning won't help you....

C.
Title: Re: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Krusher on September 15, 2003, 10:15:55 AM
She is married to a former Clinton advisor and she works for CNN. It is not surprising that she is not a fan of the Bushies or FOX.

I was watching "Reliable Sources" on CNN yesterday and they mentioned FOX several times as a conservative news outlet, but never mentioned CNN as a liberal news outlet.
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: midnight Target on September 15, 2003, 10:26:24 AM
So since Fox is #1 now, are they gonna start telling the truth?
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Ripsnort on September 15, 2003, 10:36:05 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
So since Fox is #1 now, are they gonna start telling the truth?


As much as CNN did when they were number 1. ;)
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: FUNKED1 on September 15, 2003, 10:43:48 AM
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Given the choice, it's better to be viewed as a foot soldier for Bush than a spokeswoman for al-Qaeda.


PWN3D
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Dnil on September 15, 2003, 11:35:26 AM
lol funked, I saw that to.  I was thinking the same thing.
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: midnight Target on September 15, 2003, 12:17:33 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
As much as CNN did when they were number 1. ;)


On that we agree.
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Ripsnort on September 15, 2003, 12:23:54 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
On that we agree.


We agree on Fox too. As a right-leaning centrist I see the slant being spewed on certain programs there as well. Its up to the viewer to sift out the truth. Unfortunately thats what the world has come to...only the dummies are the ones to suffer or those propoganda-prone 3rd world nations where no other sources are really available to them (I'd like to use Al-Jareed or whatever its called, as an "example")
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: MrLars on September 15, 2003, 01:49:12 PM
Fox News spokeswoman Irena Briganti said of Amanpour's comments: "Given the choice, it's better to be viewed as a foot soldier for Bush than a spokeswoman for al-Qaeda."

So, Faux is admitting they're a foot soldier for Bush? Yep, fair and ballanced  :rolleyes:
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Gadfly on September 15, 2003, 01:52:36 PM
It is a shame that all of these networks utilize the public airwaves for biased reporting.  No way around it I guess except for intelligence on the part of the viewer to realize that the infotainment you watch IS indeed biased one way or the other.
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Fishu on September 15, 2003, 02:06:50 PM
Amazing, I didn't see Boroda's in the thread...
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: DiabloTX on September 15, 2003, 02:36:30 PM
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Originally posted by MrLars
Fox News spokeswoman Irena Briganti said of Amanpour's comments: "Given the choice, it's better to be viewed as a foot soldier for Bush than a spokeswoman for al-Qaeda."

So, Faux is admitting they're a foot soldier for Bush? Yep, fair and ballanced  :rolleyes:


And the Contrite News Network is??  *shakes head.....:rolleyes:
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: Gadfly on September 15, 2003, 02:39:15 PM
I thought it was the Communist News Network-My Bad.
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: DiabloTX on September 15, 2003, 02:43:12 PM
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Originally posted by Gadfly
I thought it was the Communist News Network-My Bad.


Well Gad, if we combine the 2 we have "sorry-communist news network".  Better?
Title: An example of what happens when you're not #1, but #2 cable news service
Post by: MrLars on September 15, 2003, 04:40:35 PM
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
And the Contrite News Network is??  *shakes head.....:rolleyes:


So, this is your justification?

One service claims fair and balanced and isn't...

The other makes no such claim but is lumped in with that that does....yeah, like I said, 'fair and balanced'...spin.