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Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Furball on September 16, 2003, 08:28:32 AM
http://ftp://ftp.futurenet.co.uk/pub/dailyradar/movies/Source_HDR02.exe

Downloading it now... cant wait! (116mb)
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Maniac on September 16, 2003, 08:34:03 AM
Why is it an exe file?
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Dowding on September 16, 2003, 08:43:13 AM
Seen a few from a magazine coverdisk - including this one I believe. A shootout down the length of a street really sticks in my mind.

All I kept thinking was "DoD will rock with this engine."
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Furball on September 16, 2003, 08:46:20 AM
This was released 12 sept.

from http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?subsectionid=161&articleid=65905&pagetype=2
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Animal on September 16, 2003, 12:19:32 PM
Half Life 2 will change the face of gaming.
If not the game, the engine.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: udet on September 16, 2003, 12:21:42 PM
and why's that?!?!!?
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Animal on September 16, 2003, 12:30:28 PM
If you have Steam, download all the videos for the game and see for yourself.

Unbelievable enemy A.I, awesome graphics, almost everything around you can be manipulated, awesome scripting, and of course, hopefully awesome storyline and gameplay like it was in Half Life. I already know the face animations are incredible, and the voice acting is top notch.

But the engine. Thats where the revolution will come.

You like whats been done with the Half Life engine? Counterstrike, Day of Defeat, Team Fortress, Natural Selection, etc. Wait till you see what will be done with HL2.

Not only is the engine vastly superior and versatile, it will be easier to create mods, levels and animations.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Mathman on September 16, 2003, 12:56:56 PM
I d/l the E3 movie.  Talk about incredible.  The water guy and the camera/tv screen effects were slick.  Too bad it won't run on my Vic 20.  Guess it may be time for that upgrade to the C64 I have been reading about lately.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Skuzzy on September 16, 2003, 01:08:22 PM
The file is an exe as it is a Bing video.  Watch it,..it is worth it.

Microsoft has already said that HL2 is the DX9 game standard.  They have over 1200 individual shaders in the program.  It is impressive.
I am surprised it has not been talked about here, especially in light of the controversy surrounding it.  Our trollers must be asleep at the wheel. :D
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Post by: Nilsen on September 16, 2003, 01:18:32 PM
No suck-up intended, but i dont think it will compare to AH2. No doubt it will be an awesome game and i will get it but..

Eventually you will have played through all the levels at various diff settings....Can't be done in AH (not for me anyway)
You can make CS versions of HL2 but that is atleast for me just fun for a few weeks and then it gets booring and full of all kinds of cheats.

However you look at it, its gonna be a COOL gaming fall/winter for sure (if I can get the parts for a new puter that is)
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Octavius on September 16, 2003, 01:39:51 PM
I'm getting 8.5 kb/sec... any mirrors in the US?
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Mickey1992 on September 16, 2003, 01:42:31 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I am surprised it has not been talked about here, especially in light of the controversy surrounding it.  Our trollers must be asleep at the wheel. :D


What controversy?  About HL2?
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Post by: Charon on September 16, 2003, 03:24:42 PM
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I am surprised it has not been talked about here, especially in light of the controversy surrounding it.
Skuzzy


You mean the Nvidia/ATi stuff. It was touched on briefly.

Here's the meat:

http://www.tomshardware.com/business/20030911/index.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030912/index.html

Charon
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: SunKing on September 16, 2003, 03:36:04 PM
But if you don't have a card that runs direct X 9 don't bother.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Skuzzy on September 16, 2003, 03:57:49 PM
The HDR movie shows DX9 in action SunKing.  The game will roll back to DX8 type of graphics if the card cannot handle DX9, except in the case of the FX cards.  But Valve did put a switch into the game to force DX8 for the FX cards due to the poor performance in DX9 shaders.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Animal on September 16, 2003, 04:12:19 PM
I think you are missing the true, long term effect controversy: Steam.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Skuzzy on September 16, 2003, 04:25:24 PM
For those that have not kept up, I thought it wise to slowly integrate them.  The story is long and ugly.
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Post by: Octavius on September 16, 2003, 06:57:04 PM
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Originally posted by Animal
I think you are missing the true, long term effect controversy: Steam.


could you enlighten a poor soul, mr lamina?
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Animal on September 16, 2003, 08:02:12 PM
Steam, Valve's new distribution method is a memory active program that is always connected to Valve's servers.

It will be the only way you can get new content or play multiplayer their games.

It might work for the consumer, but then again, it can also be a total disaster that will make using their software a pain in the ass.

Not only that, but since Valve and Half Life 2 are such influential names, other companies might try to follow their example and release little Gator like memory programs of their own, required to play their games.

Mark my words. Half Life 2 will change gaming for the better. But with it comes a very annoying pandora's box.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Frogm4n on September 16, 2003, 08:04:58 PM
people still use video cards that cannot support direct x 9? Damn i hate requirement whiners with a passion.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: SunKing on September 16, 2003, 08:21:55 PM
steam = spyware?  I'm asking.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Animal on September 16, 2003, 09:14:12 PM
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Originally posted by SunKing
steam = spyware?  I'm asking.


No, its not spyware. But if it was, nobody could do anything to stop them. And that opens the door for a lot of companies to try it.

Plus, its extremely annoying to have to use one medium as the only way to get information or play. For example, playing on lan is impossible unless there is an internet connection.

As far as I know, I order to play single player, you must also be online so Steam can connect to the Valve servers and verify your key to see if they will allow you to use their software.
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Post by: Octavius on September 16, 2003, 10:22:40 PM
Now that is crap.  LAN parties will become extinct if this actually happens to future games.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Rutilant on September 16, 2003, 11:20:09 PM
Mirror? 5k/s isnt cuttin it.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Gadfly on September 16, 2003, 11:27:18 PM
No, ripping software will become extinct.  If you have a LAN party setup, my guess is is that there is an internet connection available.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Animal on September 17, 2003, 06:58:47 AM
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Originally posted by Gadfly
No, ripping software will become extinct.  If you have a LAN party setup, my guess is is that there is an internet connection available.


Wrong. Piracy distribution groups will always find ways to pirate the games. They will rip through the code and make Valve's software run independently of Steam. This is already underway.

The ones who will be truly affected is the legitimate user.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Nilsen on September 17, 2003, 07:10:51 AM
Im with Animal on this one, Nobody can make anything 100% hackproof, its just a matter of time im afraid.
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Post by: Skuzzy on September 17, 2003, 07:44:03 AM
Well, copy protection schemes are really only meant to make it more difficult so the casual user won't be able to hand out copies to friends.
Really cannot blame Valve for this.  They have spent the last 4 years developing this title.  Although Gabe does not look like he has missed many meals, I suspect they really need to get the cash flow back up, as it will be a while before they do another release.
This title is, without a doubt, the most sophisticated game ever released, in terms of what the engine is doing and what it is capable of.
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Nilsen on September 17, 2003, 08:00:14 AM
More sophisticated than AH2 ??

No way, cant be done skuzzy...

btw skuzzy how would you know? do you have some sort of inside info on AH2 or are you just trying to promote HL2...maybe you work at Valve yourself :mad:








:D
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: brendo on September 17, 2003, 08:02:44 AM
What price would you have payed, in Counter Strikes golden time a few years ago, to stop the bunny hopping, wall hacking, bot aiming, head shot 40 kills, 0 death CHEATS?

You dont need Steam to play LAN.

You dont need more than one CD to play locally on multiple PCs.

I read this on the HL2 boards.

Get  a Radeon 9800 Pro.

100's FPS in AH.

Just so happens to be the best card in the world for most new games especially HL2.

So if you wanna R00X00r then go the 9800 Pro and pwn d00dz!

:lol :cool: :D
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: udet on September 17, 2003, 09:38:40 AM
nice graphics indeed:

comparison (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/screens_6026488.html?page=6)
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Nilsen on September 17, 2003, 09:50:23 AM
with that kind of difference i wonder what HL3 will look like......prolly photo realistc
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: LePaul on September 17, 2003, 10:07:18 AM
Just catching up, wow.  He sure slammed nVidia.

But as the Tom's article pointed out, he should be wary.  One million nVidia owners would like to buy/play his game.  That's a nice market.

Its an on going saga...I still run the Ti 4600 and have no idea when, or what, I'd upgrade to.  I've had ATIs in the past and wasnt particularily wow'd.  This nVidia has been painless to own, update, and use in everything I play.

I just hope it'll play Half Life 2   :)
Title: New Half Life 2 Very High Res video
Post by: Skuzzy on September 17, 2003, 11:07:18 AM
It will LePaul, just without most of the eye-candy and details.

The FX line has been pretty well shown to be a massive failure in terms of DX9 compatibilty and performance.  It's really not Valve's fault.  They went with the API specs, NVidia didn't.  Simple.
Heck, Valve spent an addtional 5 months programming a specific path for the new NVidia cards and they still ended up being rather unplayable with all the details cranked up.

Valve did it right.  NVidia is just behind the performance curve for DX9 games.  Next generation cards should be better from NVidia.  They just misjudged how fast games supporting DX9 would come out.