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Title: How about this?
Post by: Furball on September 18, 2003, 06:53:23 AM
(http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/germany/junkers/ju_88/junkers-5.jpg)

(http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/germany/junkers/ju_88/junkers-3.jpg)

Ju88 with forward firing cannon?

Wouldn't take much to do as we have a Ju-88 already?
Title: How about this?
Post by: Tilt on September 18, 2003, 07:46:43 AM
Its a radar equipped night fighter....................so we'd need loads of night stuff plus airborne radar (in addition to the GPS Tower derived stuff) before we used it.
Title: How about this?
Post by: Furball on September 18, 2003, 07:53:23 AM
yup, but they had JU-88 daytime fighters too, without radar?
Title: How about this?
Post by: bigjava on September 18, 2003, 09:19:57 AM
Tilt say rigth when he spoke about the nigth figther with radar....
it's would be difficoult introduce them...
not only for j88 same to p-61 ; 110   ecc.
(http://www.iss.northropgrumman.com/gallery/historical/images/p-61.jpg)


but furball have touch something that i think that is very important...
yes there were  j88  figther version without radar
but i want tell something more...


Introducing a new plane in AH is difficult:
it involves working to build up all Grafic, skin, FM, cockpit ecc...

but in some cases  we Have already about the 70% of that big working done...

i mean for example speaking about the j88

now we fly the Ju-88A-4 version

but there were  a lot of version
 take a look here:
story and specifications:

j88 figthers version (http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/germany/junkers/ju_88/Ju_88_nf.htm)

all the j88 models pics, from the born to the end:


j88 model pics (http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waffen/Bilderseiten/Ju88-R.htm)

so for the lazy boys it could be nice have the Ju-88C-6
becouse  realize a model like Ju-88C-6 would be moore easy then add something new...(i think)


Ju-88C-6

Motors:
 same of A-4 ---->Jumo 211j  1.340 HP

weight:    
8600 Kg instead 8000  (A-4)

Fast:
480 KM/h instead 433 Km/h (A-4)

guns:
3 X 20 mm MG FF in the nose
3 X 7,92 mm MG 17 in the noose too
2 X 20 mm  MG 151/20 " Schrage Musink" That  is mounted oblique towards the high

 numbers:
about 2.500 unit produced

example of new nose that have to build

(http://www.warbirdpictures.com/LCBW/Ju88-C6-12s.jpg)

details of
" Schrage Musink"  gunns : That  is mounted oblique towards the high

(http://www.raf.mod.uk/bombercommand/anatomy/images/ju88guns2.jpg)

what i mean in that example is that  ( i think) add this airplane would involve a smaller job that to add of one new ,  so Furball have point a nice thing....
everybody wants news planes in AHII, me too
i still waiting  ONE ITALIAN BOMBER LIKE CANTZ OR SM79 !!  
but ....
i think we have to try to discuss, not only about any plane we wanna see in AH, but also about what plane that will be easy to add, modificating what we already have....

Isnt it?

so tell what you think



:cool:
Title: How about this?
Post by: bigjava on September 18, 2003, 09:46:01 AM
same think that i have express above for the
Ju-87...

we fly the ju-87D-3 (stuka)

but what about introduce the

Ju-87G-1 whit gondolas :D

(http://www.pilotenbunker.de/Stuka/Rudel/ju87_2.jpg)

(http://www.sspanzer.net/flyweapon/ju87/ju87at1.jpg)
Quote
Type: Dive Bomber
Weight:
Empty: 4,400 kg.
Take-off: 6,600 kg.
Length: 11.50 m.
Wingspan: 15.00 m.
Wing area: 33.69 sq.m.
Engine: 1xJu 211J.
Power:
Indicated: ? HP;
Take-off : 1,400 HP
Speed:
Sea level: ? km/h.
At 4,000 m: 400 km/h.
Turn time at 1,000 m: ? sec.
Climb to 5,000 m: ? min.
Climb in a combat turn: ? m.
Service ceiling: 7,500 m.
Range: 2,000 km.
Armament:
2x37 mm (VK 3.7): under the fuselage.
2x7.9 mm (MG 81Z).



of course is not only to add the gunpod at ours stuka...
the engine is more powerfull
the wings change... ecc but is less work then add a new plane
isn't it ????:rolleyes: :D
Title: How about this?
Post by: Rutilant on September 18, 2003, 10:10:07 AM
We have the sucky Ju88... :) Wasnt there a version with the duel 20mm stinger gun? (Bottom turret)

But i'm with bigjava.. SM79.. Then a better Ju88, maybe do a poll on it.. Then a He111.. as far as bombers go..
Title: How about this?
Post by: vorticon on September 18, 2003, 10:34:54 AM
bigjava they would have to change the fm of the ju87 as well for that...the addidtion of the modified 37mm flak cannons really played havoc with it...of course there was only ever 1 squadron of those ju87g-1's...it was kinda an "experimental" squad...wich proved very successfull...
Title: How about this?
Post by: bigjava on September 18, 2003, 11:00:06 AM
Quote
Originally posted by vorticon
bigjava they would have to change the fm of the ju87 as well for that...the addidtion of the modified 37mm flak cannons really played havoc with it...


LOL of course...
premised that
   I am ignoring in build a FM
but  I task it's simpler to modify a already existing FM, adapting it to that he imposes the new configuration that to study of one new :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
....it's logical i suppose...

:p
Title: How about this?
Post by: vorticon on September 18, 2003, 05:37:07 PM
teenage horomes play havoc with logic ;)
Title: How about this?
Post by: 6389 on September 18, 2003, 06:05:39 PM
aint that the truth
Title: How about this?
Post by: JB73 on September 18, 2003, 06:35:20 PM
i would love to see the ju88 night fighter version.... so what fi we dont fly at night alot. (didnt the lanc fly mostly at night? yet we see them all the time)

as far as the stuka goes... IMHO they should have modeled the 30mm cannon in the nose from right off. kinda like the il2, the stuka was also a tank buster.

instead they modeled the bombing variant only :(

but an idea:

if you load the cannon package up front you can only carry 1 1000kg bomb not the 1800kg
Title: we need
Post by: B17Skull12 on September 18, 2003, 08:31:40 PM
Italian bomber:D
Title: How about this?
Post by: Karnak on September 18, 2003, 08:31:52 PM
I'd much rather see a Ju88G-7b than a Ju88C-6b.

I suppose the C-6 would be more useful in scenarios, but the G-7 would be much better in the MA.
Title: Re: we need
Post by: bigjava on September 19, 2003, 02:42:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by B17Skull12
Italian bomber:D


WTG SKULLL :D