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Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Malleus on September 19, 2003, 05:21:44 AM: http://www.markfiore.com/animation/twoyear.html
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Maverick on September 19, 2003, 05:03:37 PM: Apparently you missed the first time this was posted last week.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Malleus on September 19, 2003, 05:25:44 PM: Must have, don't get to surf as much as I should I guess
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: FUNKED1 on September 19, 2003, 05:45:30 PM: Just as tasteless now as it was two weeks ago.
Title: Lame...
Post by: GtoRA2 on September 19, 2003, 06:04:17 PM: Malleus
You like that tripe do you?
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Malleus on September 19, 2003, 11:43:44 PM: Yep, sure do.

Mostly because I find the kernal of truth in the rest of his drivel.

The Grunt-Goggles one in a classic, and having had them on my face before, also quite true.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 19, 2003, 11:49:51 PM: Quote
Yep, sure do.

Go to hell...
Title: Re: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Sandman on September 20, 2003, 12:49:08 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Malleus
http://www.markfiore.com/animation/twoyear.html

Thanx Malleus.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 20, 2003, 12:51:43 AM: What kind of sick pleasure do you get from that stuff?
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Sandman on September 20, 2003, 01:20:09 AM: I can't see what is so sick about spooling you up.

Fiore seems to be a non-partisan attacker... sure, he hits bush, but the dems aren't any safer.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 20, 2003, 02:05:25 AM: I guess I just dont find the newfangled whining about those uncertain 911 days very funny.
Title: Re: Re: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: FUNKED1 on September 20, 2003, 02:34:21 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Thanx Malleus.

For reposting the same crap you did? Or you using two accounts now Sandy? :)
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Erlkonig on September 20, 2003, 02:47:30 AM: Seemed pretty reasonable to me. What's the problem?
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Malleus on September 20, 2003, 09:13:27 AM: Nope, this is not a secondary account for Sandy, feel free to look up my score as Malleus1 in the MA.

And I like the guy because he bashes everyone. This snippet was not another way to make fun of someone's pain from 9/11, it was made, IMHO as a way to look at the shell game that the Bush administration has been shoving down our throats these past two years.

I certainly don't want to get on a political soapbox here, but I DO have strong Republican leanings. I've voted for them in several Presiidential elections, and try to keep a Republican governor in my state house.

However, I do believe that Bush is playing the general population for fools, and we swallow it, because as a whole, the U.S. populace is too damn stupid to read a paper or watch the news.

How do tax cuts NOT favor the rich?

Why are gas prices still through the roof?

Still haven't found any WMD? Seriously?

Dozens more of my brothers getting killed daily in Iraq. Infantry does police work so well, don't we?

Redistriction in Texas is fair..... how?

And I could go on and on, this is just off the top of my head. At least this guy puts the problem in a humorous manner. And no, I don't want to make light of 9/11, but watch what the left hand is doing while you are being hypnotized by the right.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Virage on September 20, 2003, 09:45:56 AM: That was good.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Eagler on September 20, 2003, 10:05:14 AM: malleus - just another t-u-r-d in the sewer of life
Title: Re: Re: Re: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Sandman on September 20, 2003, 10:09:02 AM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
For reposting the same crap you did? Or you using two accounts now Sandy? :)

I have just one account... It's a distorted sense of humor that allows me to thank Malleus for reposting something I did earlier. :p
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Fuzzy on September 20, 2003, 01:48:25 PM: so... your'e short and fat?
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: SaburoS on September 20, 2003, 01:49:18 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Malleus
Nope, this is not a secondary account for Sandy, feel free to look up my score as Malleus1 in the MA.

And I like the guy because he bashes everyone. This snippet was not another way to make fun of someone's pain from 9/11, it was made, IMHO as a way to look at the shell game that the Bush administration has been shoving down our throats these past two years.

I certainly don't want to get on a political soapbox here, but I DO have strong Republican leanings. I've voted for them in several Presiidential elections, and try to keep a Republican governor in my state house.

However, I do believe that Bush is playing the general population for fools, and we swallow it, because as a whole, the U.S. populace is too damn stupid to read a paper or watch the news.

How do tax cuts NOT favor the rich?

Why are gas prices still through the roof?

Still haven't found any WMD? Seriously?

Dozens more of my brothers getting killed daily in Iraq. Infantry does police work so well, don't we?

Redistriction in Texas is fair..... how?

And I could go on and on, this is just off the top of my head. At least this guy puts the problem in a humorous manner. And no, I don't want to make light of 9/11, but watch what the left hand is doing while you are being hypnotized by the right.

Malleus, ~S~!
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Malleus on September 20, 2003, 01:50:02 PM: Nope, and deleted the post, let my fingers talk before my head caught up. No reason to get mad.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: SaburoS on September 20, 2003, 01:55:38 PM: What was false on that video for those that are criticising it?
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: FUNKED1 on September 20, 2003, 02:01:38 PM: I didn't watch more than 15 seconds of it. 9/11 and the twin towers is not an acceptable basis for humor of any sort IMHO.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Creamo on September 20, 2003, 02:04:05 PM: Saburo, did you try to eat the Candyland gameboard as a child?
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: SaburoS on September 20, 2003, 02:05:43 PM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
I didn't watch more than 15 seconds of it. 9/11 and the twin towers is not an acceptable basis for humor of any sort IMHO.

So you comment out of ignorance of the video then. Watch it then make a comment of its contents. You might just be surprised, maybe not. It in no way makes "fun" of the victims or the attacks.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: SaburoS on September 20, 2003, 02:08:20 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Creamo
Saburo, did you try to eat the Candyland gameboard as a child?

How did you find out about THAT??!! I blamed that on our pet dog, Missy. ;)
Seriously, care to actually answer my question above?
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: FUNKED1 on September 20, 2003, 02:09:21 PM: First thing I saw was some wacky cartoon character. Wacky cartoons are not a suitable medium for discussion of that topic IMHO. I'm not going to watch the rest of it, I couldn't give a rat's bellybutton what Fiore has to say about anything. Tasteless.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: SaburoS on September 20, 2003, 02:14:45 PM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
First thing I saw was some wacky cartoon character. Wacky cartoons are not a suitable medium for discussion of that topic IMHO. I'm not going to watch the rest of it, I couldn't give a rat's bellybutton what Fiore has to say about anything. Tasteless.

But you care enough to comment on it. You probably did watch it and didn't like how he portrays our president.

Edit: Is this how you collect information? Ignore everything you happen to not like or agree with?
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Creamo on September 20, 2003, 02:20:57 PM: Look up satire in the dictionary. Find a clever way to use it. Posting a 3rd party cartoon that sucked in the first place won't make you Airhead in a day. I know Sandman is just jizzing all over himself thanking the second posting, but... See?

I feel just as bad for the men trapped in the Arizona so I'm no poem posting ultra American that begins squirting tears at the of mention of 9/11, or Pearl Harbor as far as that goes, but that is some tasteless cartoon crap.

So it is true that Bush cut taxes just to eliminate firehouses in New York? What do you think.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: SaburoS on September 20, 2003, 02:31:22 PM: So some NY firehouses were not closed due to some federal budget cuts?
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: FUNKED1 on September 20, 2003, 02:34:28 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SaburoS
But you care enough to comment on it. You probably did watch it and didn't like how he portrays our president.

Edit: Is this how you collect information? Ignore everything you happen to not like or agree with?

I didn't watch it. The only comment I care to make on it is that it's tasteless. Why do you feel the need to make this personal?
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Malleus on September 20, 2003, 02:43:42 PM: There is no need to get personal, and yes, I have already tried to delete the whole ost, but Skuzzy needs to do it.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Creamo on September 20, 2003, 02:51:40 PM: "What do you think" was a statement, not a question or invitation to argue this idiotic post/topic.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: SaburoS on September 20, 2003, 03:01:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by FUNKED1
I didn't watch it. The only comment I care to make on it is that it's tasteless. Why do you feel the need to make this personal?

You're making a comment on something that you claim you didn't watch. How do you know it's tasteless? What about it is?
Why do you feel a need to post on something you claim to not have watched, but yet you make a judgement on?
If you perceive my comments as as a personal insult/attack to you, then you have my apologies and I will withdraw further comment on this thread.
I just find it puzzling that anyone would make subjective comments on a video they claim they actually haven't viewed.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: k2cok on September 20, 2003, 04:53:10 PM: That cartoon just tells the truth about Bush, I suppose that's why it makes the right wing posters on this UBB upset.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: AKIron on September 20, 2003, 05:47:17 PM: I don't get it. Is it supposed to be funny or scathing? I like satire as much as the next but that's just dumb.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Creamo on September 20, 2003, 05:55:36 PM: Exactly. No one is really upset I don't imagine, it's just weak and tasteless. And to refer it as "truth"?

Like I said, my cousin licked the candyland board, we beat him up. He turned out ok, he was only 5 though.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: k2cok on September 20, 2003, 09:12:38 PM: Let me rephrase creamo.

All the events depicted in that flash video are true, it's an assumption on my part that Bush would rather that none of us remember the times he's dropped the ball.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Sandman on September 22, 2003, 09:48:57 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Malleus
There is no need to get personal, and yes, I have already tried to delete the whole ost, but Skuzzy needs to do it.

Can't see that you've done anything wrong...
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: medicboy on September 22, 2003, 11:39:45 PM: I like satire as much as anyone, heck my favorite show is the Daily Show on comedy cent. But this is just wrong, some of us lost friends that day and using it as an excuse to poke fun at a man placed in a very hard place is just wrong. I couldn't do any better in his place and you couldn't either. Your turn the other cheek way of doing things is how Clinton got us here in the first place. It's simple, there is no way of handeling this and come out smelling like a rose, it is just a sh#$ty situation to begin with. SOmetimes you have to get some dirt under you nails to get the job done.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: Fishu on September 23, 2003, 12:16:45 AM: Quote
Originally posted by medicboy
I like satire as much as anyone, heck my favorite show is the Daily Show on comedy cent. But this is just wrong, some of us lost friends that day and using it as an excuse to poke fun at a man placed in a very hard place is just wrong. I couldn't do any better in his place and you couldn't either. Your turn the other cheek way of doing things is how Clinton got us here in the first place. It's simple, there is no way of handeling this and come out smelling like a rose, it is just a sh#$ty situation to begin with. SOmetimes you have to get some dirt under you nails to get the job done.

US was into this long before Clinton and Bush surely isn't getting it out of this, just digging it a grave.
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: niknak on September 23, 2003, 07:52:41 AM: The animation did nothing but make 6 or 7 statements but it has caused a lot of anger. Could someone answer a couple of questions.

1) Were any of these statements false?
2) Which one(s) would cause offense to victims of 9/11?
3) Is putting 9/11 in a cartoon wrong? (even though the cartoon seems to be saying some of the heroes, the firemen, were poorly treated thru cutback and lies.)
Title: Another way of remembering 9/11 (Mark Fiore)
Post by: AKIron on September 23, 2003, 10:42:02 AM: Everyone of the statements where George Bush says that "you're not supposed to remember that" are false. He never said them, clear enough?