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Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Bodhi on September 19, 2003, 08:19:31 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/18/kennedy.iraq/index.html

I just love the double standard that exist for politicians.  Make up any BS story then spew it forth on the news.  Have not a shred of facts to prove your tale, then when it is not proven just say the canned democratic apology, "Ahh made a mistake, but I believe I was right!"

shreck Kennedy, talking about corruption in others with no proof.  THat man is one of the most corrupt in congress, yet lectures about others being so, and without a shred of proof.  

:rolleyes:
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Mickey1992 on September 19, 2003, 08:38:06 AM
Old men in their 70's, who have had the same cushy job for the past 40 years, will sometimes say stupid stuff.
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Eagler on September 19, 2003, 08:41:44 AM
(http://www.davegranlund.com/ed/archive-images/ed016.jpg)

amazing a fat drunk murder can hold public office year after year

must be a huge pork provider for his supporters... sad
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: lazs2 on September 19, 2003, 09:49:41 AM
why anyone pays attention to this cowardly murderer is beyond me.
lazs
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Mighty1 on September 19, 2003, 10:06:41 AM
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Some Democrats, citing the $525 billion budget deficit, say they may push for a repeal of some tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans to help pay for the Iraq mission.



I love this statement. As usual the Demo's answer to everything is "Take from the rich and give to the worthless".
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Bodhi on September 19, 2003, 08:03:57 PM
thats the truth mighty...

demos are nothing but POS...

too say anything else is just plain rediculous.

:rofl
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Sandman on September 20, 2003, 12:51:21 AM
Sued for what?
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Toad on September 20, 2003, 01:28:41 AM
Problem is those clowns figure everyone with income in the top 25% is "rich".

So, if you're making over ~$55,000 you're "rich".

Bend over, grab your ankles... we're going to tax the rich again!
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Bodhi on September 20, 2003, 08:19:06 AM
lol, Toad
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Bodhi on September 20, 2003, 08:20:35 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Sued for what?


For defamation of character...  it is considered a serious charge in most courts and can lead to massive reproach should it be proved.  My bets are that statement of Kennedy does do damgage, and I predict those statements by him will sign his death of politics.
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: capt. apathy on September 20, 2003, 08:28:27 AM
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For defamation of character


while I think his comments where sleazy (since they where presented without evidence,  if he shows some proof thats another story), I saw the speach the quotes where taken from.  it was quite clear in the speach (not so much, where he was quoted in the article) that these where his opinions.

  all alegations where preceded with "it is my belief", or a simular statement.  no grounds for a law suit IMO,  I believe you are still allowed to believe anything you want, or even express these beliefs as long as you make it clear it's your opinion.  in order to prove he was lying, you'd have to prove that he didn't believe it, not that the beliefs where wrong.
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Eagler on September 20, 2003, 10:02:49 AM
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
while I think his comments where sleazy (since they where presented without evidence,  if he shows some proof thats another story), I saw the speach the quotes where taken from.  it was quite clear in the speach (not so much, where he was quoted in the article) that these where his opinions.

  all alegations where preceded with "it is my belief", or a simular statement.  no grounds for a law suit IMO,  I believe you are still allowed to believe anything you want, or even express these beliefs as long as you make it clear it's your opinion.  in order to prove he was lying, you'd have to prove that he didn't believe it, not that the beliefs where wrong.


I think you are allowed to "believe it" but not allowed to say it in public

the handsomehunkcrats like to make their "tax the rich" speeches right after they finish their $2500 a plate political dinner they were delivered to in their chauffeur driven limo
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Sandman on September 20, 2003, 10:07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
For defamation of character...  it is considered a serious charge in most courts and can lead to massive reproach should it be proved.  My bets are that statement of Kennedy does do damgage, and I predict those statements by him will sign his death of politics.


Defamation of character? Bush? LOL...


My bets are that Kennedy will long outlast GWB in the political arena.
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: moose on September 20, 2003, 10:54:34 AM
as much as i dont like teddy, i think there is some truth to what he said about iraq being a sham

but of course, you guys just love the fact our guys are dying there needlessly every day

and gas prices havent even gone down. sheesh.

what about them weps of mass destruction?

hmmmmm:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

i cant wait for 2004. bush is on his way OUTTA there
Title: Re: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: SaburoS on September 20, 2003, 12:40:37 PM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/18/kennedy.iraq/index.html

I just love the double standard that exist for politicians.  Make up any BS story then spew it forth on the news.  Have not a shred of facts to prove your tale, then when it is not proven just say the canned democratic apology, "Ahh made a mistake, but I believe I was right!"

shreck Kennedy, talking about corruption in others with no proof.  THat man is one of the most corrupt in congress, yet lectures about others being so, and without a shred of proof.  

:rolleyes:


LOL, you care to show your "proof" on your statement?
Where does he say he made a mistake in his allegations?
Looks to me he is asking for some facts  such as some missing money that isn't adding up.
What about the "proof" of Sadaam's immediate threat to the US offered by the Bush's administration as "justification" for invasion?
The "possible involvement of Iraq and 9/11?
Seems you're charging Kennedy of what the Bush administration is now doing (look to the news reports of the "We knew of there not being a connection of Iraq and 9/11.")

What will be your opinion of this administration IF the WMD threat was fabricated?
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Frogm4n on September 20, 2003, 01:02:41 PM
there was nothing in iraq that was dangerous to the US. not sure what lie you guys are talking about here.
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: capt. apathy on September 20, 2003, 02:10:17 PM
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the handsomehunkcrats like to make their "tax the rich" speeches right after they finish their $2500 a plate political dinner they were delivered to in their chauffeur driven limo


ya, it's just the dems who do that :rolleyes:

actually you may be right, when bush came out here to raise money for the republican candidates he flew out here on our dime.  not a limo though, AF 1, plus the helo (marrine 1 i think)  when he flew to central oregon.  what a mess that was,  hundreds of people out of their homes during the fires, and there was Bush taking up a very large part of the lodges acomodations.

I'd be curiose to know how much that little trip cost the taxpayers.  I wonder if it cost us more than he raised?  next time it may even be cheaper to just give those candidates the federal money.
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: SaburoS on September 20, 2003, 02:23:29 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
(http://www.davegranlund.com/ed/archive-images/ed016.jpg)

amazing a fat drunk murder can hold public office year after year

must be a huge pork provider for his supporters... sad


Had he not been some "powerful" politician, one can bet he'd of been charged with at least involuntary homicide. Doesn't make him a murderer though.
Curious, do you criticize only Democrats?
What if our present President was a Democrat, would you be calling him a coke fiend, liar, and deserter?
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Pooh21 on September 20, 2003, 02:31:38 PM
"But,Teddy what if I get Pregnant?"

"We'll cross that bridge when we come to it."
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: moose on September 20, 2003, 06:34:15 PM
hahah good one pooh
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: AKIron on September 20, 2003, 10:40:03 PM
How any state can look at itself in the mirror after repeatedly  electing someone like this is beyond me.

http://www.chuckmorse.com/liberal_hypocrite.html
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: AKIron on September 20, 2003, 10:49:06 PM
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Originally posted by SaburoS
What if our present President was a Democrat, would you be calling him a coke fiend, liar, and deserter?


Only before 2000.
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Rude on September 20, 2003, 11:51:42 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Defamation of character? Bush? LOL...


My bets are that Kennedy will long outlast GWB in the political arena.


Only because he has to....he couldn't make a living in the private sector.
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Rude on September 20, 2003, 11:52:54 PM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
there was nothing in iraq that was dangerous to the US. not sure what lie you guys are talking about here.


And we should believe that because you're such a worldly, in the know kind of guy?
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: lord dolf vader on September 21, 2003, 01:03:16 AM
bush must go.
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Yeager on September 21, 2003, 02:02:19 AM
bush gets my vote unless this clark guy proves to be something other than a democrat....
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 21, 2003, 02:39:36 AM
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
bush must go.


Go, Bush, Go!



maybe that's not what you meant...
Title: Re: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Sixpence on September 21, 2003, 03:27:41 AM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
THat man is one of the most corrupt in congress, yet lectures about others being so, and without a shred of proof.


Then are you not doing the same thing? Wait a minute.......you kind of look like him too........hmmmmmmm.
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Bodhi on September 21, 2003, 08:54:11 AM
I am willing to stand by my statement sixpence, which Teddy will not if push comes to shove.
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: AKIron on September 21, 2003, 09:53:36 AM
Ted and Hillary in 2004, so long as Ted drives Hillary to the inauguration. ;)
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Pooh21 on September 21, 2003, 09:55:30 AM
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Originally posted by AKIron
Ted and Hillary in 2004, so long as Ted drives Hillary to the inauguration. ;)

LOL!
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: DrDea on September 21, 2003, 09:09:53 PM
""My bets are that statement of Kennedy does do damgage, and I predict those statements by him will sign his death of politics.""

  Come on!!!  Think Marion Barry. Ted allready killed a date while drunk driveing.There not going anywhere. Polititions are as bad as English royalty.They will allways get a free pass on stupid comments and actions.
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: lazs2 on September 22, 2003, 08:56:12 AM
So long as the politician has enough influence to get his constuents more of everyone elses money he will be re-elected no matter what he does..  murdering scum kennedy is a perfect example.
lazs
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Sandman on September 22, 2003, 09:39:46 PM
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Originally posted by Rude
Only because he has to....he couldn't make a living in the private sector.



It's amazing what you can get away with when your family has money... Bush is a perfect example. :)
Title: Amazing what politicians can say and not get sued
Post by: Gunslinger on September 24, 2003, 12:54:43 AM
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Originally posted by moose
as much as i dont like teddy, i think there is some truth to what he said about iraq being a sham

but of course, you guys just love the fact our guys are dying there needlessly every day

 


I CANT BELIEVE ANYONES LETTING THIS GUY GET AWAY WITH SAYING THIS

If anyone actually "loves" the fact that our troops are dying over in iraq please reply so and shut me up....

I allways say "attack the idea not the person" but u sir are dispicible for thinking that ANYONE "loves" the fact that US troops are dying in a