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Title: One trooper short of a full stick?
Post by: burbank on September 20, 1999, 01:08:00 AM
How many paratroopers in a full C-47 load?
Will we need to trade troopers (weight)for fuel when planning para flights?
How many troopers to capture a map room/field?
and last of all, will they still jump out under 3G, or in vertical zooms, or aircraft inverted, etc like in WB?
cheers

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Title: One trooper short of a full stick?
Post by: kkoori on September 20, 1999, 01:55:00 AM
C-47's could carry between 27 - 32 troops onboard or 3900kg (8,600lb) of cargo.

I really like the idea of the limited jump ability of the para's when the aircraft is pulling high G's. . .I know in the real thing you could never do it.


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Title: One trooper short of a full stick?
Post by: Ozymandias_KoK on September 20, 1999, 08:25:00 AM
Imagine yerself loaded up with some much stuff you can barely stand.  Now add G's.  It wouldn't be a pretty sight for a C-47 to do much of any maneuvering.  There's always the possibility fo being packed in so tight that no one can move AT ALL, but ozreckons that would negatively impact the getting the door open bit (otherwise, everybody would just spill outside due to people osmosis. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif))

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Title: One trooper short of a full stick?
Post by: TOAD-WB on September 21, 1999, 10:32:00 AM
C-47 could carry 18 paratroops.  Plus bundles beneath the wings / fuselage.  One door (on the left).  Yep, too many G's and no one was getting out.  They'd all be sprawled on the floor or piled up in the tail (at which time the aircraft would go out of control because of a totally screwed CG).

Paras were, of course, vulnerable to AA and other fire, but casualties didn't stop the drop (unless they were _all_ wounded or killed, of course).  But if the C-47 is taking hits, the system could certainly inflict casualties on the paras.

When necessary, casualties were thrown out the door so they wouldn't impede the egress of the rest of the survivors.  So you might always see 18 chutes outside the aircraft, even though not all 18 paras are "viable."

Oh .. and they'd exit no slower than one per second.  Maybe faster, but the Jumpmaster was supposed to time them to one per second.  But they'd be faster if they were being shot at :-)

Oh .. almost forgot:  the planning weight for a US paratrooper was (and is) 250 pounds.  Wildly unrealistic since they were always loaded much heavier than that.  But that was the planning weight. Figure 350 pounds in real world:  175 pound trooper, 75 pounds chute and harness, 75-100 pounds weapons and equipment.

Toad


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Title: One trooper short of a full stick?
Post by: Duck on September 21, 1999, 11:33:00 AM
Toad said something like "18 paratroopers plus bundles under wings, fusalage"..

Querys:

They bundle up paratroopers and attach them to hardpoints on wings/fusalage?

How do they bundle them? twine?

Do they have automated paratrooper bundlers or is all manual labor?

Can the paratrooper bundles be launched at enemy aircraft or are they purely an ATG weapon?

Are they self propelled?

well enough sillyness for now  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Regards,
Michael Carney aka duck
Title: One trooper short of a full stick?
Post by: hitech on September 21, 1999, 12:15:00 PM
We probably wont be implemnting all the troups in a c47 but rather will have 1 troop represent 2 or 3 real troops and adjust there weight accordenly.

Hitech
Title: One trooper short of a full stick?
Post by: Brick on September 21, 1999, 12:25:00 PM
Damn... I thought there was going to be an application here to be a trooper.  I'm short of a full stick myself.

Ehhh... on second thought, maybe I shouldn't have said that.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Andy
Title: One trooper short of a full stick?
Post by: Duck on September 21, 1999, 12:26:00 PM
HT, ie a 525lb rambo?

Regards,
Michael Carney aka duck
Title: One trooper short of a full stick?
Post by: Ozymandias_KoK on September 21, 1999, 06:56:00 PM
Hehe...C-47's will be dropping Fat Bastards.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Was that Toad El Magnifico ozsaw up there?  Can it be?  Our hero come to entertain us yet even more with his insanity?  ('cos we need a few, they always picking on oz, especially that HT feller.)

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