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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on September 25, 2003, 04:04:09 PM
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From the Chicago Sun-Times:
WASHINGTON -- President Bush's job approval has dipped to 49 percent in an NBC-Wall Street Journal poll, the lowest level of his presidency in that poll.
The poll results reported on NBC's ''Nightly News'' are close to the 50 percent job approval in a CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll out Monday. Some other polls still have the president in the mid-50s.
While 49 percent approved in the NBC-WSJ poll, 45 percent disapproved. More than half, 52 percent, disapprove of Bush's handling of the economy. Six in 10 approve of his handling of the campaign against terror, but that is his lowest rating since the question was first asked in April 2002.
The poll of 1,007 adults was taken Sept. 20-22 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
From Reuters:
Bush's Approval Rating Down, Clark Rises in Poll
Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:58 a.m. ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush's approval rating dropped to the lowest level of his presidency according to a poll released on Monday, which shows him running slightly behind Democratic presidential candidate retired Gen. Wesley Clark.
Bush's job approval rating slipped to 50 percent in the CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll of more than 1,000 Americans -- down from 60 percent in August and 71 percent in March.
Clark, the former NATO commander who joined the field of Democratic presidential contenders last week, led Bush 48 percent to 46 percent among those polled.
Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry and Clark were both narrowly ahead of the president, according to the poll of registered voters,.
Three other candidates in the group of 10 Democrats vying for the president's job -- former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri and Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut -- were close to Bush in the poll.
The survey indicates Bush's job performance rating declined as questions about the U.S. effort in Iraq rose. It found that Americans were split over whether Iraq was worth going to war over. A month ago, 63 percent held the view that it was.
In the latest poll, nearly 90 percent said they do not think that the war is over, up from the 58 percent in May, after Bush declared that major combat had ended.
The telephone poll of 1,003 people was conducted Sept. 19-21 and has a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points.
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Consider that Nixon had an approval rating in 1971 of only 49% and won in 1972....considering that Reagan had an approval rating of 47% in 1983 and won in 1984, considering that Bush Sr. had an approval rating of 68% in 1991 but lost in 1992, do you think that approval ratings a year in advance have anything to do with the chances of re-election?
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Typical level for a first term president running for re election
When the Dem's thin out after their primary...and who knows, put forth someone like Leiberman (Anyone else notice he sounds like that cartoon dog "Droopy")....and watch it bounce back up
The numbers will mean more next summer when the race shapes up.
Right now, if it werent for a slow news week...who'd care?
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wasn't Klinton at 43% in '95? Oh wait, no that's what he won with in '96 ;)
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Originally posted by Udie
wasn't Klinton at 43% in '95? Oh wait, no that's what he won with in '96 ;)
I'm pretty sure his was low, though. Something like 47% a year in advance of the election.
My info was off KIRO Radio on the drive home yesterday, they mentioned Clintons rating too but I've all but tried to forget that 8 years. :( :p
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the majority of the people in the u.s. according to the poll.
ya know the ones that never wanted the charming fellow in the first place.
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It's spelled 'evar'.
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
the majority of the people in the u.s. according to the poll.
ya know the ones that never wanted the charming fellow in the first place.
what NY and LA? presidents aren't decided by the population centers. Don't like the way your state casts it's vote? Call your state legislature and have them change it, they are the ones who decide who votes and how the vote goes for President.
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
the majority of the people in the u.s. according to the poll.
ya know the ones that never wanted the charming fellow in the first place.
Oh? Then explain the highest-ever poll rating of ANY president for 30 days (90 something %) in 2001-2002. I guess they were just joking, right?
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49%
Thats only 12% below Clintons approval rating AFTER the Impeachment. :)
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No one asked me if I approved. I'm voting for him.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Consider that Nixon had an approval rating in 1971 of only 49% and won in 1972....considering that Reagan had an approval rating of 47% in 1983 and won in 1984, considering that Bush Sr. had an approval rating of 68% in 1991 but lost in 1992, do you think that approval ratings a year in advance have anything to do with the chances of re-election?
You keep holding on to that thought... :rofl
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Originally posted by midnight Target
49%
Thats only 12% below Clintons approval rating AFTER the Impeachment. :)
:lol
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The obvious difference between Dubya and Reagan is that Dubya's numbers are steadily plummeting, nearly matching that of his father at the same point into his term. And hardly a situation one looking to win re-election would want to be in. The other issue about Dubya's declining approval is that it only goes up when he declares a war, his domestic program being such a huge failure and all. It's not showing any signs of bottoming out.
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I like the poll which says if held today bush would lose to an "un-named" dem
LOL - sure he would
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You dems can cheer each other on 'till Hillary goes to bed but it won't change a thing come election day. You may wanna take a hint from the networks, I think they learned their lesson about calling the election early.
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You guys are settin yourselves up for a major disapointment.
Bush's current poll numbers are actually higher than those of Reagan, his Dad and your hero, Bill Clinton during the same time of their presidency.
In 79, John Glen led Reagan by 13 points. That said alot didn't it?
Might want to contain yourselves a bit....the time is coming when Bush will be compared to only one Democrat hopeful....that is when these numbers you guys enjoy tossing about will actually begin to say something.
I'm going to enjoy watching all of you Bush haters squirm.:)
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Consider that Nixon had an approval rating in 1971 of only 49% and won in 1972....
I even voted for Nixon in my second grade "election" :)
Charon
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Bush blows, pathetic excuse for a president, can't even look at the damn camera when he's speaking to his "American People". You ask him something not in his speech, he more confused than a VFR pilot in the clouds with an engine failure. He also wants basically an 87million blank check. IIRC this is more than the Federal Education Budget. NO, I want to know how my money is being spent... Jeez, the man is a freaking republican puppet... I'm probably going democrat or Mickey Mouse this election.
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Originally posted by Dingbat
Bush blows, pathetic excuse for a president, can't even look at the damn camera when he's speaking to his "American People". You ask him something not in his speech, he more confused than a VFR pilot in the clouds with an engine failure. He also wants basically an 87million blank check. IIRC this is more than the Federal Education Budget. NO, I want to know how my money is being spent... Jeez, the man is a freaking republican puppet... I'm probably going democrat or Mickey Mouse this election.
This is the sort of talk that many on this BB would consider not only to be un-patriotic but Un-American as well!!! Sheesh what is the world coming to!!
You should be threatening to bomb something or making loud whining sounds about the fact about other nations actually disagreeing with you on matters of foreign policy!!
You obviously are in need of re-education and therefore will be forced to go on a extended road trip or hunting weekend with Ripsnort and Grunherz while they explain how everything is actually wonderful and George W is a great man!!!
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He also wants basically an 87million blank check. IIRC this is more than the Federal Education Budget. NO, I want to know how my money is being spent...
It's 87 billion. And are you under the impression that the 'Federal Education Budget' actually promotes education in any way?
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Well, what can I say, oh yea... First Amendment Rights... I'm as patriotic as the next guy. My wife is/will be (as soon as her orders come through) Active duty military (i'm unable to serve due to hearing loss and sight but I would in a heartbeat) and I fully support her decision to serve especially when she's not even a citizen.
Ripsnort's comment regarding bush's high approval rating shortly thereafter Sept.11 is no big surprise, we were all angry, and looking to kick some bellybutton and rallying behind the man. We are in a world of change, I supported him then but now I feel he's doing a pathetic job. Removing sadam was the right thing. But IIRC, Spending a few weeks planning for after saddams removal, is not acceptable especially when he spent months on the actual invasion. His so called plan failed to include the real possibility that the Iraqis would resist in the manner that they are... I really feel that the american public is not getting the whole story.
Guess I should don the firefighting gear :cool:
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Originally posted by ra
It's 87 billion.
Thanks for correcting, I was working from memory and have been know to remember wrong...
And are you under the impression that the 'Federal Education Budget' actually promotes education in any way? [/B]
Actually Yes, I do, especially when I see the government educational grants are helping my best friend's son get an education and assisting with the treatment of a medical problem cause by brain damage at hands of an HMO when he was very young...