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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Urchin on September 25, 2003, 07:17:44 PM
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Lets go ahead and get em all collected here, I want to be the author of a 3,000 post monster. In the interests of both the whiners and cheerleaders, I will attempt to give a "fair and balanced" TM report and tell both sides.
First- Understand that AH2 is a huge project. Gigantic in fact, even with no new planes or anything. They have to change/update the graphics for every unit in the game (using a new graphics engine), they have to change/update the flight model for every plane in the game (at least I presume that is what they are doing), and they have to change/update the whole user interface for the game. And that doesn't even include the real "meat" of AH2, which will be an entirely different method of gameplay that has to be designed from the ground up. Big project + Small company = Long time. Deal with it.
And just to be fair-
First (again)- It has been over a year since we had any update worth mentioning. Even in that release we got no new planes that stick in my mind as being particularly 'crucial' or even useful. The gameplay has gotten staler than a pizza that has been left out for a week (no pun intended, honest), and with no new 'toys' to play with it makes it seem even more dull. Combined with a complete blackout for months on end as to what the state of the update is, it is easy to 'lose faith'.
As for me, I'm somewhat in the middle. Yea, the gameplay is godawful nowadays, but that is more a function of the population itself than the game. The designer doesn't have a whole lot of control over how a "mmog" is played. And as long as there are a lot of people playing it, the designer is making money. Money = Satisfaction. Maybe AH2 will be the godsend everyone thinks it will be, I don't know. All the new release is going to be is an updated graphics model and the physics model (if I read correctly)- no new gameplay, no new toys. But whether AH2 is a cornucopia of goodness or just same ol' same ol' with more makeup, it is going to take 5 people an awfully long time to get it out the door. So there is no point in getting your panties in a wad over the delays. Or the silence, because it would be foolish for HTC to give things away to their competitors as to what is going to be new in AH2.
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I'm sure they are giving it max effort. Creating something like Aces High isn't like building a house where it's been done many times and is easy to predict the completion.
No use whining over it taking longer than expected. Stiff upper lip and all that.
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I guess so. Aces High epitomizes the publc relations axiom emphasizing the need for organizations to build a reservoir of good will. The game has done that and is drawing on it now.
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Urch lay off the Fox news and O'Reilly :D
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Good post, Urchin. :)
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Well said Urchin.
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Ok, what's the latest expected release of AH2??
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*Mooooooooooooooooan.*
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Ok. I'm done whining.
Waited almost a year for a new update. I think I can wait couple of more months :)
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Originally posted by Urchin
Even in that release we got no new planes that stick in my mind as being particularly 'crucial' or even useful.
I'm right with ya on most of that Urch, but I think the above statement is a little unfair. I agree the latest additions are not much good for the MA environment, but AH is so much more than the MA. The more recent release have made lots of special events possible that couldn't be done before.
Nice write up all the same
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Originally posted by HiTech
Added the following planes: P-40B, P-40E, D3A1, SBD-5, Boston III, A-20G, A6M2, F4F-4, FM2
(From v1.10 release announcement)
Pretty significant additions IMHO.
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Knew it was coming really, HTC posting some pics which dont show any new model plane (at least i seem to remember seeing the updated spit before) was the first clue to there being more stuff to be done.
Quite honestly my veiw is if it aint ready it aint ready, but I also think its no big deal to cancel your account if the game becomes too boring. Everyone reaches a burnout period and that seems to happen whether you have new planes or not. All games become stale if you play them enough. What is amazing is that AH has held so many of our interests for so long.Its quite a feat of programming to do that :D
I have no other game ive played as much and i love AH but I have to say its struggling to keep my attention lately.I think ive just about halved or more my use of it over last few weeks and i was kind of hoping the release at the end of the 3rd Q would renew my interest. The problem i see with these release dates is companies seem to feel they have to maintain it will ship on time up until the last moment when they could adjust it a little earlier and COMMUNICATE with us more. Its not the delay which pisses people off , its the dissapointment at such a late stage. As we closed in on the date we got more excited, in this impatient state we tend to notice even more how theres nothing new in the game at this moment to satisfy this impatience for the new toys/graphic engine, this is bad enough in itself as it makes people burnout even faster.Then the killer blow a week or so before you expect the new game! now thats not the way to do it if you ask me.
It only needs a monthly update on progress to keep most people happy on this BB. If this delay was a last minute decision i could understand and its ok, but if, as it sounds, they are far from completing the model adjustmsnts needed as well as other aspects then why on earth dont they just tell us what IS finnished so we can make a few guesses of our own? If nothing else it gives us something to talk about other than the latest '2 week' joke.surely they knew they couldnt make it weeks ago?
Im not trying to be difficult, but i do feel HTC are neglecting an area in their product which is not really so difficult to do and that is a little communication through their news section. Waiting well over 2 months for so much as a single word then suddenly pictures and 'sorry its not coming out next week after all' just isnt on.
I'll keep paying my account. $14.99 isnt so bad a financial drain as to warrent closing it and i still get on a few times. Im not threatening to close in any way but there will obviously come a time when play doesnt equal value for money.for now even with the news im still paying and playing so it isnt the end of the world but HTC should realise they are upsetting people with the way they seem to be treating them.Theres no need for it, how long does it take to post a short newsletter just like this one by pyro? 10 mins max? HTC used to post stuff all the time so i KNOW it really isnt asking that much from them (brown noses please shuddap :)).
Lets hope it does make christmas although now it seems we dont have a release date at all do we?.
>sigh<
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I agree Hazed.
What you wrote is very well thought out, and makes sense. Let me see if I can add to it.
I appreciate HT's Effort to bring us a quality product, and I realize we pay for the current game and not the future update.
With that said, HTC had us salivating over a leap forward in our gaming experience. No one told HT to have the game out by Q3. They imposed that on themselves, and if they cannot meet it, that's fine. It's totally understandable, and forgivable.
What I'm having trouble with is the fact that they waited until the week before the end of the 3rd quarter to tell us they would not meet the deadline. Are they so close to beta that only small problems arose at the last minute?
I think it more likely that they knew they could not hit this deadline for a month or more.
The announcement would not have stung so badly if it were not made so close to the release date.
Second, the way the news was broke was bothersome, as it did not include even a hint of an updated timeline. I undertand they may have no clue, but I'm sure they could estimate it. I would be satisfied with "By Years end," Sping of '04, etc. Just give us the news. We can take it.
Finally, the relative news black-out adds to the frustration and anticipation. A simple blurb, one paragraph, once a week would be enough to let us feel like we're in the loop, and know how the game is coming along. No knowing how far along the project is adds to the frustration.
I look forward to getting slammed by the uber-fans, but I had to speak my mind.
all.
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Originally posted by muckmaw
I look forward to getting slammed by the uber-fans, but I had to speak my mind.
all.
No doubt that everyone feels some disappointment over this. I kinda doubt anyone is gonna feel like slammin' ya.
Maybe if that disappointment is too severe it's time to add another meaningful activity to yer schedule? Been puttin' off learning more about MS SQL for some time, now I have no excuse. Damn you HTC! ;)
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why wont my p1 133 and voodoo 1 machine run it!1! Dont they ever think of their average customer!!11!:) :) :D :cool: :cool: :rolleyes: :rofl :o :( :(
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Originally posted by muckmaw
What I'm having trouble with is the fact that they waited until the week before the end of the 3rd quarter to tell us they would not meet the deadline. Are they so close to beta that only small problems arose at the last minute?
I think it more likely that they knew they could not hit this deadline for a month or more.
The announcement would not have stung so badly if it were not made so close to the release date.
Second, the way the news was broke was bothersome, as it did not include even a hint of an updated timeline. I undertand they may have no clue, but I'm sure they could estimate it. I would be satisfied with "By Years end," Sping of '04, etc. Just give us the news. We can take it.
Finally, the relative news black-out adds to the frustration and anticipation. A simple blurb, one paragraph, once a week would be enough to let us feel like we're in the loop, and know how the game is coming along. No knowing how far along the project is adds to the frustration.
AMEN BROTHER.... Preach on! lol
Really though I fully agree with you. I think since its being held off for a bit we should atleast get a full update on the news. We got a link for a reveiw for the game a week back, that gave everyone false hope. HT had to have known he wasnt going to make 3Q a month ago. So he wetted our apps for a game he knew wouldnt make it out on time. I think that is a bit unfair. That being said, I am not mad at ya. Just plz dont do that agin. Thanks. Ohh yeah and if you want to make it up to us.... check out my sig :)
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have you tried the competition? :rofl
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
have you tried the competition? :rofl
Actually, no.
I never said this before, but last night was so stale in PIzza, I took the squad over to CT. That was fun, but the problem there is we kept fighting the same 3 guys over and over.
I'll fly CT again tonight, and not MA. I'm not a pizza hater, but the last 2 nights I logged in, I had no desire to play.
Anyway, now may be a good time to check out WWIIOL.
*shrugs*
I dunno. I need something new...or something that really sucks to I'll aprpecaite AH again.
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I'm inclined to think that it was a last minute glitch that hopefully can be overcome quickly. Since the Wargamer interview which quoted a Q3 release date was published less than two weeks ago, it's hard to believe that an honest business owner who cared about the goodwill of his customers would knowingly let a quote like that be published without correction if he knew it was untrue.
Here's hoping, anyway, because the current brew is getting real stale real fast.
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2 things, Blue.
I'd like to agree with you, but the article was published 2 weeks ago, not written 2 weeks ago. So it could have been months ago, and HT forgot about it being published.
Second, I don't think this will be a short delay. If it was, Pyro would have said so to make the pill of the delay much easier to swallow.
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Good things take time. Why can't some of you be patient. When it is released all this waiting will have been worth it. Meanwhile there are many great games and bish killing in the MA to tide us over.
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Originally posted by SunKing
Good things take time. Why can't some of you be patient. When it is released all this waiting will have been worth it. Meanwhile there are many great games and bish killing in the MA to tide us over.
Sun-
Reread what I said. It's not a matter of patience. It's the facty that we were led on.
HT is an update tease!!!
Imagine if your girlfriend of 6 months finally said she was gonna put out, and on the night she's supposed to be delivering the goods, she calls up, says, she can't make it, and that's she'll give it to you at a latter date.
See what I mean.
Did I just compare AH to sex?:eek:
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Did I just compare AH to sex?:eek:
ewwww, gives new meaning to the ck 6 calls. ;)
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Some posters here are making some real emotional assumptions.
These assumptions have "teeth" in them, yet no conclusive evidence or data to substantiate them. IMH that is the wrong tac to take.
If your disappointed, then say so, but making wild-azzed guesses as to HTCs' intentions is just wrong.
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Originally posted by AKIron
ewwww, gives new meaning to the ck 6 calls. ;)
At least HO's still mean the same thing....
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Some posters here are making some real emotional assumptions.
These assumptions have "teeth" in them, yet no conclusive evidence or data to substantiate them. IMH that is the wrong tac to take.
If your disappointed, then say so, but making wild-azzed guesses as to HTCs' intentions is just wrong.
It's just speculation, Slappy.
If there is a problem with people specualting about what went wrong, what's going on, etc..HT has a keyboard, and he knows how to type on the bbs. (Well, sorta, anyway.)
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Originally posted by muckmaw
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Reread what I said. It's not a matter of patience. It's the facty that we were led on.
HT is an update tease!!!
Imagine if your girlfriend of 6 months finally said she was gonna put out, and on the night she's supposed to be delivering the goods, she calls up, says, she can't make it, and that's she'll give it to you at a latter date.
See what I mean.
Did I just compare AH to sex?:eek:
I wouldnt go that far man.
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OK ... geeesh
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Some posters here are making some real emotional speculations.
These speculations have "teeth" in them, yet no conclusive evidence or data to substantiate them. IMH that is the wrong tac to take.
If your disappointed, then say so, but making wild-azzed specualtions as to HTCs' intentions is just wrong.
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Point is ... The way I read these speculations ... They have a very accusatory vein to them, implying that HTC has been under-handed in dealing with this release within the last month.
Any development team that takes great pride in their work ALWAYS wants to makes the release date. I would speculate that every employee at HTC is 10 time more disappointed than any one of us, and this is probably not sitting well with them at all.
I would also speculate that all those involved in this release have been burning both ends of the candle stick for the last month trying to make the release date. I would also speculate that the decision to delay probably was made the day that Pyro posted the news.
Ya know I love ya Muck ... :D
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Right back at ya, Slappy.
You know I'ma grumpy bastage when I'm at work.
I don't want to go into specifics, but I just don't agree with the way the situation was handled.
Of course, not working at HTC and not knowing anything about what happened, I can only speculate.
So I'll step back and say this came out of nowhere, and HTC never saw the glitch coming until it was too late, at which time he made the post to the BBS. And maybe their still sorting it out with no idea how long it will take to fix.
*shrugs*
No matter how we slice it, many are still disappointed, and we're all still in the dark.
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Maybe Im the only one who wonders why the beta is gonna be Offline only? :confused:
Is it is because the new Graphics are a system crusher and having half the current population unable to use it online would be a commercial disaster or am I missing something? I thought the net code was as is now so why not have an online Beta.
Discuss !
Adjuster
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Originally posted by Adjuster
Maybe Im the only one who wonders why the beta is gonna be Offline only? :confused:
Is it is because the new Graphics are a system crusher and having half the current population unable to use it online would be a commercial disaster or am I missing something? I thought the net code was as is now so why not have an online Beta.
Discuss !
Adjuster
"The upcoming open beta will be offline only and the primary purpose will be testing the graphics engine across a wide range of systems."
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"The upcoming open beta will be offline only and the primary purpose will be testing the graphics engine across a wide range of systems."
Ok but still why offline cant it test online ?
How am i gonna see cool bullet holes in my Tiff if noone gonna shoot at me :D
Adjuster
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Originally posted by muckmaw
Right back at ya, Slappy.
You know I'ma grumpy bastage when I'm at work.
I don't want to go into specifics, but I just don't agree with the way the situation was handled.
Of course, not working at HTC and not knowing anything about what happened, I can only speculate.
Why is it expected that people will not speculate as to the reason for the delay and how long AH is to be delayed. It is not as if Pyro said anything specific in his message. Seems that the past trend has been to provide very little or no information until AH2 was ready so I am sure that they fully expect people to show some form of frustration now since the deadline is to be missed.
Like many, I am not at all upset at them missing the deadline but I too dislike the zero information model that they are following.
My 2 cents is all
Acetnt
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Like many, I am not at all upset at them missing the deadline but I too dislike the zero information model that they are following.
Could not say it better my self;).
First off all HTC have done a great job regarding Aces High from it starts and intil now, and therefor im still here and play it and also pay for the game;). This again I hope show my support for the ones that make this game;).
The last 2-months have been tuff for both HTC and the communety for when and how AHII should be released and how the game would be at the end before it is released.
I think the biggest diffrent from earlyer releases is the lack off information on the prosses on what to expect regarding pictures and generel devenlopment info to keep the communety updated.
My main point here is that I think many of us just miss the info on the game while it is devenloped and then again know what to expect when it is released, insted of knowing just the basic info who were posted early this year. Then we just start to speculate and we will at the end speculate to mutch and start bad posts;).
I think this could be avoided by put out more info on the devenlopment prosses and also give the communety a chanche to be a part off it in a more closer way as it have been on earlyer updates/patches. Ok this was just my thoughts :).
Just want to say I love this game and its communety, and are realy looking forward to the releas of AHII :)
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Whelp, I guess I'll chime in. As an Ex-warbirder, kinda sorta a current IL2er, and a WWII Online sampler each game is missing something the others have.
I propose as WWII sim fans we hire and send out teams to round up ALL the developers from each company, lock them in a well equiped facility with all the programming/3d modeling software/hardware they could ask for and tell them to "do it right" :). Whos's with me! :D.
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Stop your constant whining, its not fun anymore.
When HTC has some hard facts to tell the community they do.
If they say something that they are not sure about then it will just put fuel on the fire for the whiners on this board if its not included for some reason in the final release.
If you don't enjoy the current game that you pay for then fine. If you whine about something you dont yet pay for then its just pathetic. :rofl
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Stop your constant whining, its not fun anymore.
Who are you talking about Nilsen10??
Who is the person you talking about that whines all the time??
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:rolleyes:
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I was just curious who you ment since you are talking about the whiners all the time.
Now Im realy excited to se if you can write this time.
And maybee be a man and say who is whining here and what in there txt is the whine by your book.
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And by the way Nilsen10, do you realy know what "pathetic" means..??
If you want I can give you a werry good example what "pathetic" is by my book if you are interested...
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Oh my... GA has blown a fuze :rofl
I obviously struck a nerve. You must really feel that I was talking about you since you responded in this way.
WTG.
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Honestly...I think the New game is full of Eye Candy.
AH Classic is the same game right?
And AH 2 i think will not draw near as large a community.
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Oh my... GA has blown a fuze
I obviously struck a nerve. You must really feel that I was talking about you since you responded in this way.
He he no...
But can you replay on my earlyer question who is the hole point here.
And by the way Nilsen10, do you realy know what "pathetic" means..??
If you want I can give you a werry good example what "pathetic" is by my book if you are interested...
Pleas answer yes or no if you want to know...
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AH2 classic will be the new AH main arena if im not mistaken, and AH2 ToD is the new arena with missions etc.
I think ToD could be fun and draw a large community but we will not know that until it has been up and running for a fairly long time (when folk settle in after trying both)
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My Feeling exactly Hazed.
Originally posted by hazed-
Knew it was coming really, HTC posting some pics which dont show any new model plane (at least i seem to remember seeing the updated spit before) was the first clue to there being more stuff to be done.
Quite honestly my veiw is if it aint ready it aint ready, but I also think its no big deal to cancel your account if the game becomes too boring. Everyone reaches a burnout period and that seems to happen whether you have new planes or not. All games become stale if you play them enough. What is amazing is that AH has held so many of our interests for so long.Its quite a feat of programming to do that :D
I have no other game ive played as much and i love AH but I have to say its struggling to keep my attention lately.I think ive just about halved or more my use of it over last few weeks and i was kind of hoping the release at the end of the 3rd Q would renew my interest. The problem i see with these release dates is companies seem to feel they have to maintain it will ship on time up until the last moment when they could adjust it a little earlier and COMMUNICATE with us more. Its not the delay which pisses people off , its the dissapointment at such a late stage. As we closed in on the date we got more excited, in this impatient state we tend to notice even more how theres nothing new in the game at this moment to satisfy this impatience for the new toys/graphic engine, this is bad enough in itself as it makes people burnout even faster.Then the killer blow a week or so before you expect the new game! now thats not the way to do it if you ask me.
It only needs a monthly update on progress to keep most people happy on this BB. If this delay was a last minute decision i could understand and its ok, but if, as it sounds, they are far from completing the model adjustmsnts needed as well as other aspects then why on earth dont they just tell us what IS finnished so we can make a few guesses of our own? If nothing else it gives us something to talk about other than the latest '2 week' joke.surely they knew they couldnt make it weeks ago?
Im not trying to be difficult, but i do feel HTC are neglecting an area in their product which is not really so difficult to do and that is a little communication through their news section. Waiting well over 2 months for so much as a single word then suddenly pictures and 'sorry its not coming out next week after all' just isnt on.
I'll keep paying my account. $14.99 isnt so bad a financial drain as to warrent closing it and i still get on a few times. Im not threatening to close in any way but there will obviously come a time when play doesnt equal value for money.for now even with the news im still paying and playing so it isnt the end of the world but HTC should realise they are upsetting people with the way they seem to be treating them.Theres no need for it, how long does it take to post a short newsletter just like this one by pyro? 10 mins max? HTC used to post stuff all the time so i KNOW it really isnt asking that much from them (brown noses please shuddap :)).
Lets hope it does make christmas although now it seems we dont have a release date at all do we?.
>sigh<
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When AH2 first comes out....I have no doubt i will draw a large crowd. But i think this will fall off sharply in just a few months.
The missions for me im sure will be fun....But i dont think this style of game play will have the appeal we hope.
Originally posted by Nilsen10
AH2 classic will be the new AH main arena if im not mistaken, and AH2 ToD is the new arena with missions etc.
I think ToD could be fun and draw a large community but we will not know that until it has been up and running for a fairly long time (when folk settle in after trying both)
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I know perfectly well what pathetic means, try your bate elsewhere if you want some fish for dinner. :rofl
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
have you tried the competition? :rofl
I have....and honestly there are some good ones out there.
Although i wouldnt feel right about posting them here/.
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Originally posted by Adjuster
Maybe Im the only one who wonders why the beta is gonna be Offline only? :confused:
Is it is because the new Graphics are a system crusher and having half the current population unable to use it online would be a commercial disaster or am I missing something? I thought the net code was as is now so why not have an online Beta.
Discuss !
Adjuster
Maybe its because the NEW Open beta will draw a huge following for the first few months. And HT Knows the MA Server already has major glitches just trying to handle the Old AH?
If the server is anything like the past few weve played on...Be prepared for some big conectivity issues. Oh yes....and be prepared to accept that its not on HTC's End :D
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Ok here goes what is "pathetic" in my book.
Sorry communety to have to do this but this guy is **** me off for almoust a year now.
When HTC has some hard facts to tell the community they do.
First off all.
When did you get the spokes man for HTC since you speak on there behalf, and you do this on several posts!
If you whine about something you dont yet pay for then its just pathetic.
2 interseting lines here.
1. "If you whine about something you dont yet pay for"
- Just curious, you have been flying Aces High about 2 years if you still fly now, and if you fly do you pay for it, and what is your ID in the game? xxxx39?
(if some whines on the BBS as you call it, what would you call this,
I would just call it pathetic)
2. "pathetic. "
(here are some more point that I would call pathetic)
* To been trhown out from his earlyer squad by recruit that squads current members for is own new squad without saying any thing to the CO/XO that he gona quiet and will out.
* Still owes one earlyer squad member money who he provided him for paying the HTC bills.
* Changes his name 10 times and more to go the trial period severeal times by saving money and rip HTC off.
* Post words that are not allowed her on the BBS, on his earlyer squads website "guest book" and a "joke site", and by this they had to take it off there website since it was open for all to post.
That he did not know is that a pro-programer traced his IP to his home, so they could be 100% surten it was him, infact up to several posts for a period off time.
* Post a smile or just a face with out any txt on several time when his former CO posted a post on the AH communety BBS. just probely to piss...him off.
The CO of that squad finaly posted a mail to HTC and suddenly this stoped.
* tryed his best to go behind the squads back and talk to the youngest pilots in the squad to turn them away from the squad and recruit them.
* On the Squads recruit post on the "squad open BBS" where the squads put op there post to recruit pilots in the communety. His former squad poste a recruit post there and he replayed to that post by saying..
"test these guys out and that they should join him when he would start his squad again this Agust......
* He finaly gott his squad and had at the squad top period 3 members. And they went back to there former squad.
This is "pathetic"...............
NB: Sorry gents to take this up, maybee I lost a Fuze;).
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
Stop your constant whining, its not fun anymore.
When HTC has some hard facts to tell the community they do.
If they say something that they are not sure about then it will just put fuel on the fire for the whiners on this board if its not included for some reason in the final release.
If you don't enjoy the current game that you pay for then fine. If you whine about something you dont yet pay for then its just pathetic. :rofl
Perhaps you should consider stopping your constant whining on about what people should say. That too is getting quite old.
If you do know what Hitech and the folks are thinking as you speculated by saying "If they say something that they are not sure about then it will just put fuel on the fire " then you have more information than any of us and it would explain why you made your comment. If not - then sir, respectfully please shut up already:D
Acetnt
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I would guess that there is a reason for them not to say everything because i do not think its because they are lazy or wants to be mean to their customers. Do you really think they act this way to get the community and their customers upset? There is usually a good reason for things HTC does and im confident that they know what they are doing now aswell.
:)
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Lets start guessing and let the conspiracies fly.. I will go first.
OK, HTC had to re-write the code from scratch because somebody got stoned or drunk and deleted all the source (BTDT), or a server failed and all the source code was lost.
The release was delayed for offline play only because HTC is being sued by warbirds for using their 'netcode' in the game, and has to develop new 'netcode'.
They aren't giving information because they want the release to be a surprise. -- but now it's delayed for the above reason, and they are incredibly stressed about the release date and wish to speak with nobody (BTDT)
-- If this were me in such a position I would be hard pressed to continue. Pretending the users don't exist would be the only way I would be able to maintain my sanity and finish the project.
Any Takers?
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How about this for a conspiracy theory:
HTC is not posting it all beacuse everything is not 100% decided on yet and rather than taking all kinds of flak from the community incase something is left out that they have announced they wait until release before going into details.
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BTW GA, nice try.. :D
1. Not true, as everyone knows i quit the squad.
2. I do not owe any former squadmate money, if you would ask him then you would find out.
3. Have never ripped off anyone.
4. Have never posted illegal words on this BBS ..show me pls. posted on your squadsite? rofl...again bull.
5. I have never recived any mail from HTC regarding my supposed smileys and HTC knows this. (btw, did you also call your mom for comfort?)
6. Never goen behind the squads back, i went behind your back.
7. What?.. stay of the booze
8. Finally got my squad? *hurray i managed to start my own squad* :rofl
Game over GA
Thank you for playing..
Insert coin here
Tip:
Next time you wanna play this game, stick to the facts and dont let your personal emotions ruin your chanses.
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
How about this for a conspiracy theory:
HTC is not posting it all beacuse everything is not 100% decided on yet and rather than taking all kinds of flak from the community incase something is left out that they have announced they wait until release before going into details.
I think they're taking more flak for their silence than if they spoke up and said "We're completely lost and AHII wont be out for 6 months."
Not knowing what the status is accounts for the bulk of the gripe.
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I do not think it will be too much longer for the release. I am looking forward to the beta personally, even if it only be offline. Some of 2Hawks theories are pretty good too.
HTC has always cared about their customers. I cannot begin to wonder what may be delaying them, or why they arent posting much news, but Im sure there is a good reason behind it.
I think it would be better to post updates of bad news then good news, but developing a game myself I can see why HTC may want to keep quiet.
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Yep Nilsen10, They who knows the truth is the ones that knows it, thast me you and the 28 others squad members from the squad you were banned and kicked out from.
Off cours my statement is not true, you are one off a kind and a guy who I hope to not have anything to do with in the future!
And if you search my post by 3 years time on this BBS, you would not find any post like this or bad post.
Ok I have sayd mine, And Im sorry to the communety that you had to listen to this ****.... but this guys realy reach the bottom of online pilots/people I hav come across.
No more post from me of this issue.
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Hehe keep going :rofl
You kicked me from the viking BBS before i had a chanse of telling my side of the story so a few of em prolly belive you.
I dont mind tho, you have yet again proved that you go for a personal attack on me based on nothing substantial other than your personal feelings (this is quite understanable as you have lost every discussion we have had).
This is very typical of a person of your nature. However I will not post any more abot this topic as Skuzzy has pointed out the rules regarding personal attacks on this forum. So unless he gives the go ahead we should quit this before you get a vaication from the forum or boore everyone here to utter madness.
Again, when playing this "bbs game" try sticking to the facts and just facts
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The delay and offline beta play is actually a blessing in disguise for those who have not avidly persued flight sims, combat flight sims or other real flight experience. Suddendly releasing a new flight model upon those recently introduced to flight much less MMO Combat would create a vast chasm in those who have the experience and feel for actual flight and those who still lean towards the arcade style of things.
HTC has a very tough question to "Beta"... How real to make the new advanced modeling? Rather than throw it into the arena, and risk their subscriber base, release a "Beta" offline and wait for the feedback. Then they can look at the greater denomination of requests and "bugfix" the most requested / commented on feature or flaw. But then if this were the reason for the delay, I cannot see why they wouldn't just up and say so. So for now I will have to think it's just something thats going to work itself out for reasons only the aliens know.
I look forward to playing with the new planes, and think it's a good move to make sure those already in the MA and CT have the opportunity to play at or near the same level as the rest of the more advanced pilots.
Hitech!
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Originally posted by acetnt-2nd
Like many, I am not at all upset at them missing the deadline but I too dislike the zero information model that they are following.
Acetnt
I think this sums up the feeling well. not upset by the delay so much as the lack of information.
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Dont forget the vast amount of money HT has invested in TV comercals.... I'm sure having the release date set back isnt making him feel any better.........
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I want some more pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whine......hissssssssssssssss ss.burp..................whin e..............:roflCome to think of it maybe after playing the Lock ON beta maybe HTC might be doing something right!
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Come to think of it maybe after playing the Lock ON beta maybe HTC might be doing something right!
You have nowhere enough the CPU power to be playing LOC
LOL.
No wonder you dont like it .
Try upgrading you computer and them make tyour judgment.