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Title: toilets on board ??
Post by: ghi on September 27, 2003, 03:44:17 PM: Did the crew have toilets on board of the bombers in long missions?? or they saved " ordnance" until bomb bay were open over tgt??
What about the fighters in escort?? Diapers & relief tubes??
Would be nice to get relief tubes in AH2, but different sizes (M,XXL)

relief tubes (http://quanonline.com/military/military_reference/American/urine.html) :lol
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Post by: Max on September 27, 2003, 10:01:47 PM: piddle packs were collected and dumped over Bremen where they were collected and used to brew Becks...it's my story and I'm sticking to it.

DmdMax
Damned MkXX
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Post by: Cooley on September 28, 2003, 03:11:15 AM: Been a while since i read "The Wild Blue" but I seem to remember that they didnt have em

And what he said ^ abouts Beck's, what a nasty beer:D

Edit: Yeah, I know most US beer is nasty also, but I drink Red Hook, Sierra Nevada etc etc. Not disimilar to a Newcastle Brown or Samuel Smith Ale
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Post by: Replicant on September 28, 2003, 05:45:53 AM: B17 and Lancasters had them, dunno about other planes.
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Post by: Furball on September 28, 2003, 06:42:38 AM: was in a Sunderland a few days ago, that has a toilet, and even a mini workshop for minor repairs.
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Post by: Karnak on September 28, 2003, 02:42:45 PM: H8K "Emily" had them.

I'd be very surprised if the B-29 didn't. It had bunks after all.

As to fighters, well, you should have gone before flying. But if you have to go, you have to go. You'll have a pretty unpleasant mess to deal with though.
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Post by: davidpt40 on September 28, 2003, 02:59:58 PM: B17s had a bucket you could poop in, and a small tube that you could urinate in.

Quite a few airmen died from eating foods that caused gas. At 30,000 feet their intestines could and sometimes would burst.
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Post by: airbumba on September 28, 2003, 04:21:23 PM: Quote
Originally posted by davidpt40

Quite a few airmen died from eating foods that caused gas. At 30,000 feet their intestines could and sometimes would burst.

Every time I read that it freaks me out. I keep picturing a german spy infiltarting the 8th Air corp as a cook and feeding all the men chilli for supper....:(

Is nothin sacred in war:(

Bumba
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Post by: Staga on September 28, 2003, 04:39:56 PM: iirc even H-75s had "relief" tube.
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Post by: JAWS2003 on September 30, 2003, 10:39:14 AM: check this story of a p51 pilot

funny story (http://www.geocities.com/jackilfrey/pee51.html):rofl
Title: toilets on board ??
Post by: Rutilant on September 30, 2003, 12:12:04 PM: Quote
Originally posted by davidpt40
B17s had a bucket you could poop in, and a small tube that you could urinate in.

Quite a few airmen died from eating foods that caused gas. At 30,000 feet their intestines could and sometimes would burst.

awww.. how.. morbid

So you only had to fart on the way up or what?
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Post by: MwXX on September 30, 2003, 01:15:12 PM: ok, question about that pony pilot...for all you "historians" on airplane specs...

he mentioned 5 hours of flight? was that possible with 100% and drop tanks? if so, MAN, what a rice burner!!!

LMAO:rolleyes:
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Post by: klem on September 30, 2003, 02:49:49 PM: P51D often credited with 8 hours plus
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Post by: Curval on September 30, 2003, 03:07:46 PM: There was a story about a co-pilot (I think) of a B17 who would hold off pooping until over Germany on every mission. Just before the bomb run he would relieve himself into a bag of some sort and when the bombs were dropped he dropped that out too.

He called it the schiese bomb or something...someone posted it a while back.
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Post by: fffreeze220 on September 30, 2003, 03:15:26 PM: Quote
Originally posted by DMax
piddle packs were collected and dumped over Bremen where they were collected and used to brew Becks...it's my story and I'm sticking to it.

DmdMax
Damned MkXX

Allright dude now u got an enemy :D
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Post by: rogwar on September 30, 2003, 03:19:01 PM: Quote
Originally posted by davidpt40
B17s had a bucket you could poop in, and a small tube that you could urinate in.

Quite a few airmen died from eating foods that caused gas. At 30,000 feet their intestines could and sometimes would burst.

I don't believe B17s flew that high. Burst intestines because of gas expansion at the altitudes they flew would be very unlikely. I know a thing or two about barotrauma. However, if you have any links to info on the subject, send them.

In reading history, I don't believe piddle packs were general issue for the most part. People did acquire them on their own with mixed results.

Nowadays I have read a lot of fighter pilots basically use something like a Depends adult diaper on long missions.
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Post by: Slash27 on September 30, 2003, 05:17:38 PM: How about these B2 pilots that fly 20 hours missions. Do these guys get a portable DVD or anything to pass the time?
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Post by: klem on October 01, 2003, 05:34:58 PM: If you want some of the answers read 'Combat Crew' by John Comer. A real insight into what it was like.

Slipping off the heated gloves at 30,000 feet to turn on the hi-fi wouldn't have been a good idea :)
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Post by: Furball on October 01, 2003, 08:18:18 PM: Quote
Originally posted by klem
If you want some of the answers read 'Combat Crew' by John Comer. A real insight into what it was like.

Slipping off the heated gloves at 30,000 feet to turn on the hi-fi wouldn't have been a good idea :)

Or pooping in the empty ammo crates when you have the toejams and spilling it over the bombadier by accident :)

(i had that book when i was about 12, very good! no idea where it is now though :()
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Post by: davidpt40 on October 01, 2003, 08:27:58 PM: Quote
He called it the schiese bomb or something...someone posted it a while back.

Fleiger Schiesse I believe. Translated, it means "flying chit".
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Post by: mjolnir on October 01, 2003, 09:48:53 PM: Quote
Originally posted by rogwar

Nowadays I have read a lot of fighter pilots basically use something like a Depends adult diaper on long missions.

Not exactly, the piddle packs have advanced a long way from an empty bag. They have some sort of crystalline substance in them that turns to a solid gel after use. Makes it much easier to dispose of after flight, and whole lot cleaner. If they're going on a long flight, fighter guys will usually carry a few along.