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Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: muckmaw on September 27, 2003, 04:39:37 PM
Just something I came across today.

It's an advisory from the Simon Wiesenthal Center to exercise extreme caution when traveling to France due to rise in hate crimes against Jews.

http://www.wiesenthal.com/social/press/pr_item.cfm?ItemID=5470

I wonder if they have any problems with Americans.
Title: Re: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: Sixpence on September 27, 2003, 06:04:48 PM
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Originally posted by muckmaw
I wonder if they have any problems with Americans.


Have you seen Jim Morrison's grave?
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: john9001 on September 27, 2003, 06:08:38 PM
<< I wonder if they have any problems with Americans >>>

everyone hates americans , even some americans hate americans , i think it's because americans have no "culture"
Title: Re: Re: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: muckmaw on September 27, 2003, 06:10:40 PM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Have you seen Jim Morrison's grave?


No. Someone deface it?
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 27, 2003, 06:21:21 PM
But, but - France has 1300 year old Cathedrals?  

:rolleyes:
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: Mini D on September 27, 2003, 06:51:02 PM
Why do the frogs try so hard to impress the krauts?
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: muckmaw on September 27, 2003, 06:53:05 PM
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Originally posted by Mini D
Why do the frogs try so hard to impress the krauts?



hehehehhe

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: Nilsen on September 27, 2003, 07:09:20 PM
Everyone does not hate america, and messing with Jim's grave is beyond explenation...its just SICK :mad:
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: CyranoAH on September 27, 2003, 07:10:27 PM
Jesus people, either you don't realize your bait stinks big time or you really -really- need something else to occupy your time.

Daniel
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: Nilsen on September 27, 2003, 07:13:17 PM
maybe bate is just to tempting to let go sometimes, this thread needed an answer. The Jim thing did it for me.
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 27, 2003, 07:15:02 PM
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Originally posted by CyranoAH
Jesus people, either you don't realize your bait stinks big time or you really -really- need something else to occupy your time.

Daniel


So the Simon Wiesenthal center is out to provide "bait" for the purpose of this BBS?  

Or maybe the French must explain themselves for the ouburst of this hatred. I mean just because France failed to save your buddy Saddam and his support of Palestenian suicide bombers it doesnt mean you should try to finishg the job yourselves on yoiur own Jewish citizens.

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Now thats bait...  :)


But seriously I have seen reports of an upswing in anti-semetism in france the last few years, you guys really should reeximine your values.
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: CyranoAH on September 27, 2003, 07:17:34 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
But seriously I have seen reports of an upswing in anti-semetism in france the last few years, you guys really should reeximine your values.


Perhaps it's because the increasing inmigration from islamic countries? Just guessing.

Daniel
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 27, 2003, 07:19:34 PM
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Originally posted by CyranoAH
Perhaps it's because the increasing inmigration from islamic countries? Just guessing.

Daniel



Definitely possible. However I think the French have a bigger problem just going by some of the attitudes towards america and israel.
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: muckmaw on September 27, 2003, 07:47:07 PM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Definitely possible. However I think the French have a bigger problem just going by some of the attitudes towards america and israel.


I would tend to think there are more immigrants in Amercica than France. I've not read of any increases in Anti-Semitic crimes, but I would have to look at the numbers.

It could be the same here, but I simply don't know.
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: pugsly on September 27, 2003, 11:58:29 PM
As a jew i have another reasone to Hate france:rofl
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: muckmaw on September 28, 2003, 12:20:28 AM
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Originally posted by pugsly
As a jew i have another reasone to Hate france:rofl


Like we need another one?
Title: Re: Re: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: straffo on September 28, 2003, 04:38:20 AM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Have you seen Jim Morrison's grave?


Do you know how much a Parisian pay for the clean up ?

And can you tell me what is the repartition of the people tagging Morisson grave is it 50% french 25% german 25% english or anothre figure ?

The only thing sure is that the french pay for the clean up.




Muckmaw using more than 1 year old information is a good way for trolling.
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: Siaf__csf on September 28, 2003, 05:03:20 AM
Wiesenthal organisation is just a bunch of whiners stuck to past history.

They're collecting points (more donations) with that report.
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: Cabby44 on September 28, 2003, 05:23:30 AM
^"Why Europe Sucks"  #213654...............

C.
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: Dowding on September 28, 2003, 05:28:21 AM
lol Cabby

Nothing bad ever happens in the US - everyone is so happy-go-lucky and a god never kills American puppies.
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 28, 2003, 06:14:56 AM
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Wiesenthal organisation is just a bunch of whiners stuck to past history.

They're collecting points (more donations) with that report.


You're just pissed off the SWC is getting info out about Swiss collaboration with Hitler and you are afraid of lawsuits asking to return jewish monies or valuables the nazi's stole and put in your Swiss banks. Neutral my as, you damn nazi.
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: Dowding on September 28, 2003, 06:18:20 AM
lol A Croat calling some Swiss guy a Nazi!
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: Ping on September 28, 2003, 06:36:32 AM
Grunherz...Meet Dowding
Dowding...Meet Grunherz

 Now HUG
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 28, 2003, 06:38:33 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
lol A Croat calling some Swiss guy a Nazi!


I wasnt around 60 years ago, nothing I can do about my country's past. However Swiss banks still hold million and millions of Nazi stolen gold, siaf-csf refuses to accept that responsibilty - so he is still a collaborator...

I went over this with Boroda before but I'll tell it to you as well - I fully accept that Croatia did many evil things in WW2 and as far as I can, considering the nature of the crimes, I have come to terms with it and recognize that it was a terrible chaper in our history. However it must also be remebed that an equally significat number of Croatians were partisans allied with the western powers and fighting the Nazis - and giving them one hell of  lot of trouble.

So crack jokes and cast accusations all you want but they will have no effect on me as I have reached an undersading and an acceptacnce of those events as part of my people's history - I have nothing to hide, nothing great to deny, nothing to overlook nothing that I need to ignore about that period or feel appresensive at the mere mention of.  

But Siaf still seems to hold a grudge about the SWC and their activities. Not to meantion he feels a strong cumpulsion to hide something as insignificant as his country of origin or residence.
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: Hortlund on September 28, 2003, 06:48:45 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I wasnt around 60 years ago, nothing I can do about my country's past. However Swiss banks still hold million and millions of Nazi stolen gold, siaf-csf refuses to accept that responsibilty - so he is still a collaborator...
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Collaborating with what exactly?
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However it must also be remebed that an equally significat number of Croatians were partisans allied with the western powers and fighting the Nazis - and giving them one hell of  lot of trouble.

Not even close. Not even by a long-shot.
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 28, 2003, 06:58:40 AM
Well I would say storing stolen property is collaboration.. :)

But hell it's not like they sold them metalic raw materials, like ohh like Sweden?

Here are some atrocious lies about Sweden and Nazi Germany that I'm sure you will be compelled to deny.. (http://www.adl.org/Braun/dim_14_1_neutrality_europe.asp)

You see you were both good and bad at times...

As for the other thing there were FAR more Croatian Partisans then there were Ustashe..
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: Hortlund on September 28, 2003, 07:50:11 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Well I would say storing stolen property is collaboration.. :)
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And I'd say that this quote sums up your legal abilities quite nice...
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But hell it's not like they sold them metalic raw materials, like ohh like Sweden?

Here are some atrocious lies about Sweden and Nazi Germany that I'm sure you will be compelled to deny.. (http://www.adl.org/Braun/dim_14_1_neutrality_europe.asp)
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No...why would I? It happened dozens of years before my birth. I nad nothing to do with it, nor do I feel some compelling urge to get down on my knees and beg forgiveness for my countrys actions.
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As for the other thing there were FAR more Croatian Partisans then there were Ustashe..

LOL, sure...just like there were hundreds of thousands of partisans in France...after the war...
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 28, 2003, 08:02:37 AM
LOL you are a lawyer type, i am not and doont care for the terminology.. :)

Anyway collaboration may not be a "legalese" appropriate term, but those Swiss banks banks holding on to that Nazi gold is pretty bad any way you cut it - especally after the war and for so long.

Good, I'm happy to see you have come to terms with your country's past.


Yes it's a good joke, like the French.  :)  

While most Croatians initally welcomed the german's as liberators and friends due to our cultural ties, the vast majority of that goodwill was wasted after Hitler gave so much of Croatia to Italy. The actaul ustashe were rather small in number and far from a "peoples" movement - they were howvwer the government and enjoyed military support from the axis powers.  But many people started joining the partisans due to Hitler's actions, or because they were communists or socilaits or western leaning and yes indeed in disguist to Ustashe brutality and stupidity.  These factors created so many partisans and Croatian resistance, otherwise I think it's fair to acknowledge that in all likelyhood Croatia would have been a more solid ally to Germany due to old cultural links from the Austro-Hungarian empire days. So all in all there very several hundred thousand Croatian partisans including of course Tito who was leader of all partisans. Thise forces caused significat trouble to the nazis and tied up a great deal of forces. Hardly some phantom movement that only materialized after the war as you say...
Title: If you're Jewish, Reconsider France....
Post by: Siaf__csf on September 29, 2003, 03:31:55 PM
Grunherz you're more responsible for the crimes of croatians than I'm responsible for anything the swiss have done.

Because I'm not swiss. :rofl

No further proof needed that you're a bit thick Grun. I repeated it enough times.