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Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: muckmaw on September 29, 2003, 11:57:45 AM
What helo is this....


In the Khaldiyah firefight, American M1A2 tanks fired 120-mm cannons as helicopters strafed farm houses with 50-mm machine gun fire. Two A-10 Thunderbolt attack aircraft bombed guerrilla positions while F-15 jets streaked across the sky.


A 50-mm Machine Gun?

I thought the biggest Helo mounted cannon was on the Apache at 30-mm.
Title: Re: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: miko2d on September 29, 2003, 12:06:48 PM
Besides the fact that you are nitpicking on a simple typo - (the idiotic american system of using metric and standard systems in the same application combined with poor schooling strongly contribute to confusion), who are you criticizing?
 "The Press" is not that specific, even if one does not include Internet sources. Usially a link or at least a reference is presented, not that I care.

 miko
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Mini D on September 29, 2003, 12:18:47 PM
dito what miko said.

MiniD
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: miko2d on September 29, 2003, 12:20:34 PM
Mini D: dito what miko said.

< miko falls off his chair... >
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Pooh21 on September 29, 2003, 12:21:11 PM
During afghanistan, airheaded reporter women interveiwing some expert guy. "So the B-52s are bombing here" he points at map. "those are the bombers that bombed germany during the 2nd ww?" She asks. blink blink blink as he numbly stares back at her. "Ummm, no these come from a little later. "
Title: Re: Re: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: muckmaw on September 29, 2003, 12:29:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by miko2d
Besides the fact that you are nitpicking on a simple typo - (the idiotic american system of using metric and standard systems in the same application combined with poor schooling strongly contribute to confusion), who are you criticizing?
 "The Press" is not that specific, even if one does not include Internet sources. Usially a link or at least a reference is presented, not that I care.

 miko


Wow, where did you pull that one from?

Geez, it was a simple question about armament.

Relax, hot rod.

So I take it, there is no Helo being fielded with a 50-mm Cannon?

Can I get a straight answer, not laced with insults and a political agenda?
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Mini D on September 29, 2003, 12:32:07 PM
Muckmaw... post a link.  Either that or let it go.

MiniD
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: muckmaw on September 29, 2003, 12:36:22 PM
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Originally posted by Mini D
Muckmaw... post a link.  Either that or let it go.

MiniD


What the F*** is your problem?

I can't ask a *****ing question about a Helo's cannon?

Who elected you and Miko Presidents of the BBS?

Here's your link,

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030929/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_144
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: miko2d on September 29, 2003, 12:55:11 PM
Calm down,  muckmaw.

 It does not matter whether they are correct or not. It's just that when you say "they screwed up", you should at least tell us who you meant. Especially if you use so wide a category as "The press". I am quite happy with the press I read which may be different from the one you use.
 I bet if Boroda posted that same message with a heading "The Americans screwed up", you would have requested some explanations.

 You may rest assured that there are no 50-mm mashineguns on US helicopters. There are 50-cal machineguns, which is the same as 12.5mm.
 It was an Associated Press release written by a guy named Tareq Al-Issawi. One would think that guys with arabic names would be able to keep their calibers straight...

 Anyway, what the heck those" F-15 jets" were doing "streaking across the sky" while everyone - tanks, A-10s and helicopters - were busy destroying the farmhouses.
 Why were they slacking? Couldn't they drop a cluster-bomb or something? :)

 miko
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Dead Man Flying on September 29, 2003, 12:59:26 PM
Somewhere, a copy editor has just been fired.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Dowding on September 29, 2003, 12:59:43 PM
lol @ this thread

"This is the BBS police. Put the unsubstanciated quote down, muckmaw, and no-one gets hurt!"
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: muckmaw on September 29, 2003, 01:17:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by miko2d
Calm down,  muckmaw.

 It does not matter whether they are correct or not. It's just that when you say "they screwed up", you should at least tell us who you meant. Especially of you use so wide a category as "The press". I am quite happy with the press I read which may be different from the one you use.
 I bet if Boroda posted that same message with a heading "The Americans screwed up", you would have requested some explanations.

 You may rest assured that there are no 50-mm mashineguns on US helicopters. There are 50-cal machineguns, which is the same as 12.5mm.
 It was an Associated Press release written by a guy named Tareq Al-Issawi. One would think that guys with arabic names would be able to keep their caliber's straight...

 Anyway, what the heck those" F-15 jets" were doing "streaking across the sky" while everyone - tanks, A-10s and helicopters - were busy destroying the farmhouses.
 Why were they slacking? Couldn't they drop a cluster-bomb or something? :)

 miko


That makes sense. It's the simple mistake of changing the 50 Cal with 50 MM. Simple enough. I thought it sounded weird, but not knowing much about armament, I thought I should ask.

Anyway, thanks for the clarification.
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: acepilot2 on September 29, 2003, 01:42:10 PM
One Time I saw on CNN I heard this:


"(Forget most of it) They are planning to bomb something (forgot) with a massive, 100 lb bunker buster bomb.


That's some bomb.  It almost weighs as much as I do!
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Rude on September 29, 2003, 01:57:50 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
lol @ this thread

"This is the BBS police. Put the unsubstanciated quote down, muckmaw, and no-one gets hurt!"


You made me laugh out loud Dowding...that's a first:)
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Dowding on September 29, 2003, 02:05:21 PM
...End of Days? ;)
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Mini D on September 29, 2003, 02:06:19 PM
Uh-oh... the bbs police police are here.  That big red cross on your holy white shield is impressive dowding.

Muckmaw...

Quit being a tard.  You started a thread titled The Press screw up another one?.  Don't come off as if you just wanted clarification.  You wanted a "let's bag on the press" kind of thread.  Cool... present the link you're talking about it so we don't have to dog them via heresay.

As far as the "Press screw up another one".  .50-cal vs 50-mm.  That's pretty damn brutal.  You should write the editor and let him know how wrong they were.  I'd suggest not mispelling a single word in that letter... cause they won't be able to stop laughing if you do.

MiniD
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: muckmaw on September 29, 2003, 02:13:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mini D
Uh-oh... the bbs police police are here.  That big red cross on your holy white shield is impressive dowding.

Muckmaw...

Quit being a tard.  You started a thread titled The Press screw up another one?.  Don't come off as if you just wanted clarification.  You wanted a "let's bag on the press" kind of thread.  Cool... present the link you're talking about it so we don't have to dog them via heresay.

As far as the "Press screw up another one".  .50-cal vs 50-mm.  That's pretty damn brutal.  You should write the editor and let him know how wrong they were.  I'd suggest not mispelling a single word in that letter... cause they won't be able to stop laughing if you do.

MiniD


Oh no, I'm a tard...and so begins another Flame War with Mini-D. You can do this one by yourself. I've had enough of your *****.

See the question mark after the title? See that? It  denotes a question.

So the question is, Did they screw up, or and do they know something I don't. Real simple.

If you don't have something to add, just shut up and move along. Not every thread needs your approval.

Miko misunderstood me too, but when I explained that I was not looking to bash the press, he very politely answered the question.

Knock yourself out, trying to determine my motives. I'm so seditious after all.
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Mini D on September 29, 2003, 02:25:01 PM
LOL! yeah... it was just a simple question.  And here I asked you to stop being a tard.

MiniD
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Drifter1234 on September 29, 2003, 02:37:42 PM
Not wanting to jump into the flame fest, but I do not know of any 50 cal machine guns on army Helicopters.  I read the same article this morning and caught the mistake.  I believe thay were speaking of the 30mm on the AH-64.  They should proof better.

My couple cents,


Drftr
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Mickey1992 on September 29, 2003, 02:37:57 PM
More news from the same story:

"4th Infantry Division troops late Sunday killed one Iraqi and captured three others in a shootout 9 miles south of Balad, U.S. officials said. In the car, troops found two M-16 rifles which belonged to two American soldiers who were abducted and killed in June, officials said."

If I was a member of squad there would have been 4 dead, not 1. :mad:
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: muckmaw on September 29, 2003, 02:43:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Drifter1234
Not wanting to jump into the flame fest, but I do not know of any 50 cal machine guns on army Helicopters.  I read the same article this morning and caught the mistake.  I believe thay were speaking of the 30mm on the AH-64.  They should proof better.

My couple cents,


Drftr


Is it possible, they could be talking about door mounted MA-2's on Blackhawks? Those are 50 Cal, right?

Or for they use a Gatling gun on the doors now?
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: T0J0 on September 29, 2003, 02:49:28 PM
Mucks question was understood if you had read the entire post,
 BUt Nini D is bored, he likes to be_little people when he is bored..
Carry on!!
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Raubvogel on September 29, 2003, 02:50:08 PM
Do you know any slow or special people?
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Rude on September 29, 2003, 02:56:23 PM
I was there....lies, all lies!!!
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: midnight Target on September 29, 2003, 03:03:39 PM
I once saw millimeter abbreviated with 2 capital M's... LOL.... I thought I'd never stop laughing!
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Octavius on September 29, 2003, 03:07:48 PM
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Originally posted by Raubvogel
Do you know any slow or special people?


yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: Raubvogel on September 29, 2003, 03:20:14 PM
OH-58D helicopter can carry a .50 cal in a weapons pod, probably what they're talking about.
Title: The Press screw up another one?
Post by: slimm50 on September 29, 2003, 03:30:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by miko2d
Mini D: dito what miko said.

< miko falls off his chair... >


ROTFLMAO :D