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Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: strk on October 01, 2003, 03:18:11 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28449-2003Oct1.html

The Redskins football team can keep its trademark name and logos, a federal judge ruled this morning, because a group of District activists didn't provide enough evidence that the team's moniker insulted and disparaged a substantial numbers of Native Americans.


woohoo

strk
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: JBA on October 01, 2003, 03:19:01 PM
BFD!
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: ra on October 01, 2003, 03:19:34 PM
The Hoggettes gotta go, though.
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: gofaster on October 01, 2003, 03:42:05 PM
I agreed with the group that filed the lawsuit to have the name changed.  Then I read that the team was named in honor of its head coach.  

Not sure where I stand on it now.
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: mrblack on October 01, 2003, 04:28:10 PM
I think Its an insult to A,erican indians!
How would this sound Well Bill the New York Niggas put a woppin on the chicago chinks today.
Harsh but do you see my point.
I guess cause the Indians dont go running around cryin bout the way they where treated we forget that the white man almost KILLED em all off:(
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: strk on October 01, 2003, 04:47:43 PM
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Well Bill the New York Niggas put a woppin on the chicago chinks today.


You just made the opposite point - the term "redskins" doesnt have any racial connotation today, although it might have 100 years ago.  Its more like naming a team the "philistines" or the "Huns"

strk
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: Dune on October 01, 2003, 04:48:10 PM
Considering the fact I'm Irish and that their mascott looks like one of my uncles, I'm going to be filing a lawsuit against Notre Dame in the next day or two.  My attorney's are also looking carefully at the Boston Celtics, the Dallas Cowboys/Univ. of Wyoming Cowboys (I used to rope and ride horses after all), the ASU Sun Devils (I'm a Christian and I went to U of A), and several other teams.  

This culture of hate must stop!!!!
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: AHGOD on October 01, 2003, 05:13:22 PM
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Originally posted by mrblack
I think Its an insult to A,erican indians!
How would this sound Well Bill the New York Niggas put a woppin on the chicago chinks today.
Harsh but do you see my point.
I guess cause the Indians dont go running around cryin bout the way they where treated we forget that the white man almost KILLED em all off:(


Wassup cracka.
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: Gunslinger on October 01, 2003, 05:22:53 PM
I just think white people dont care when we get made fun of.  Just a while back a group had a team called the "fighting whities"  I'm white and I thaught it was hilarious....but than again I dont beleive in racism AT ALL so I laugh when i hear about white people on campuses holding affirmative action bake sales (posted in another thread here) still chuckle when i hear the idea

I think its all just dumb.  

if there was a team "the green bay honkies"  I'd definately get one of there hats or shirts:lol
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: Frogm4n on October 01, 2003, 06:57:05 PM
why dont they have the Carolina ******s or New York Kikes with a dollar bill on their helmets.
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: john9001 on October 01, 2003, 07:00:30 PM
minn. vikings need to change their name , it's demeaning to all Scandinavians
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: Frogm4n on October 01, 2003, 07:02:28 PM
how is it john? no one was calling them vikeings as they handed them smallpox infested blankets.
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: john9001 on October 01, 2003, 07:07:50 PM
i don't understand what your saying frogy, what do the vikings have to do with smallpox?

anyway , the indians got smallpox by robbing the graves of english that died of smallpox.
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: ra on October 01, 2003, 07:09:41 PM
The Redskins should change their name to GraveRobbers.
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: john9001 on October 01, 2003, 07:20:56 PM
no , the redskins should change their name to SAXONS, then i will never have to read "redskins defeat vikings", instead it will say "saxons defeat vikings", which is historically correct.
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: Bodhi on October 01, 2003, 08:18:44 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
i don't understand what your saying frogy, what do the vikings have to do with smallpox?

anyway , the indians got smallpox by robbing the graves of english that died of smallpox.


Neither does Froggy....

He is to busy trying to make sense after his latest bout with Clinton and a cigar....
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: Holden McGroin on October 01, 2003, 09:37:08 PM
Small pox was indeed in blankets that were distributed to Natives in the 1800's.

But the name of a modern sports team has absolutely nothing to do with what happened more than 100 years ago.

To spend political capital on the name of a sports franchise is a waste of resources. It has been correctly pointed out that Notre Dame's logo is demeaning to Irish people as it deals with the steroetype that Irish are violent louts; no one is demanding change in that case.

There are many other extremely important issues that the Native American community needs to address.  Pine Ridge SD is the center of the most poverty stricken county in the USA, due mostly to what a welfare state does to the people who live within it.

Drug and alcohol abuse if our youth, joblessness, and anti-social behaviors of all types do more than just tarnish our heritage.  It is difficult to pass on the ways of the elders when the youngers are in such a state.

We are becoming casino employees... profits go to outside investors, and bypass the tribes that they were intended to benifit.  I doubt Crazy Horse would approve.
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: -tronski- on October 01, 2003, 10:26:51 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Small pox was indeed in blankets that were distributed to Natives in the 1800's.

But the name of a modern sports team has absolutely nothing to do with what happened more than 100 years ago.

To spend political capital on the name of a sports franchise is a waste of resources. It has been correctly pointed out that Notre Dame's logo is demeaning to Irish people as it deals with the steroetype that Irish are violent louts; no one is demanding change in that case.

There are many other extremely important issues that the Native American community needs to address.  Pine Ridge SD is the center of the most poverty stricken county in the USA, due mostly to what a welfare state does to the people who live within it.

Drug and alcohol abuse if our youth, joblessness, and anti-social behaviors of all types do more than just tarnish our heritage.  It is difficult to pass on the ways of the elders when the youngers are in such a state.

We are becoming casino employees... profits go to outside investors, and bypass the tribes that they were intended to benifit.  I doubt Crazy Horse would approve.


About the only sensible thing said in this thread so far, and I doubt very much that Crazy Horse would approve.

 Tronsky
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: mrblack on October 03, 2003, 06:16:11 PM
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Originally posted by AHGOD
Wassup cracka.


Did your parents have any children that lived?

First off i am of american Indian decsent so I think I can speak on this subject.
The work "redskin" is as derogatory as coon or darky would be to an african american!
Why is it so hard for people to understand that?
It is so in your face!!!!
But thats ok the American Indian has bean getting screwed for 100s of years why would it change now?:mad:
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: mrblack on October 03, 2003, 06:18:23 PM
and there is a huge difference between the fighting irish and the fighting micks!!!
Or fighting potatoe eaters or the fighting drunks irish micks.
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: Raubvogel on October 03, 2003, 07:08:08 PM
You could name a team the Fighting Mick Nazi Huns and I wouldn't really give a ****.  Get over it. If something as trivial as a name bothers you how in the world do you deal with life's real problems?
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: Eagler on October 03, 2003, 08:04:14 PM
how bout a name change to the foreskins?
does that insult any group besides some of the donutheads on this bbs?
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: john9001 on October 03, 2003, 08:24:27 PM
you indians need to get off the damm reservation, a former co-worker and friend of mine is a lakota,{richard redleaf)  he has a house, morgage, car, wife, kids, and a JOB, just like the "white man"

and he hasen't lost his indian "culture"
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: vorticon on October 03, 2003, 08:55:35 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
no , the redskins should change their name to SAXONS, then i will never have to read "redskins defeat vikings", instead it will say "saxons defeat vikings", which is historically correct.


indians did kick the vikings bellybutton once...what do you think happened to there newfoundland settlement



of course the way we canadians are going well be giving nefoundland BACK to the icelanders
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: lazs2 on October 04, 2003, 09:42:06 AM
Although I probly don't have a drop of indian blood in me....  I was "native american" on my last loan application... if I were gonna open a casino I would be indian again.   May as well get some use out of all that liberal guilt.
lazs
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: Sandman on October 04, 2003, 10:26:40 AM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
how is it john? no one was calling them vikeings as they handed them smallpox infested blankets.




Gotta wipe the monitor for this one... :lol
Title: Redskins Can Keep Their Name
Post by: mrblack on October 05, 2003, 08:32:28 PM
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Originally posted by Eagler
how bout a name change to the foreskins?
does that insult any group besides some of the donutheads on this bbs?


That is funny :D :D :D :D
I needed a goood laugh.